I’d have to guess a lot of redundant middle management type jobs where they delegate work out to people. Same to those who are delegated to, probably anyone who’s job primarily revolves around building out spreadsheet off daily generated data. Probably tech support in a major way as well
anuthertw on
92 million by 2030. Geeze, thats almost a third the population of the US
AutomaticDriver5882 on
Just in time to raid my 401k great
moot-moot on
Hmmm, the article mentions that over 170 million jobs created due to AI, so far more created than lost based on this paper. Granted, the jobs created could be at a different economic level than the ones lost.
00001000U on
Whose ass did they pull these numbers from?
CyndiIsOnReddit on
AI erased all my work training AI already (at my level) because now they have these stupid chatbots that people will use for free or even pay to use and they’re trained by them now. Training AI was my sole source of income for several years. I knew it was coming just not this fast. There are a few jobs here and there but fewer every few months.
JoeRogansNipple on
Hopefully Realtors. Worthless profession IMHO
Practical-Salad-7887 on
We need a massive redistribution of wealth. This can’t work if 100 people own everything. Why would we accept that? There is an understanding in a society that we all work together as a whole. It is accepted that some people have more than others because of their position or training. It is not acceptable for a handful of people to own everything. I am not going to go die on the streets because rich people want to become even more disgustingly rich!
69odysseus on
It’s not necessarily that AI will remove all the jobs, but most will be outsourced and some will be replaced by AI.
LordKwik on
in 5 years? no fucking way.
Salt_Recipe_8015 on
Ha, my director level job in tech was”replaced by AI” last year!
koreanwizard on
I’m sure shareholder value will look really good when they crash the economy. I’m sure Google stock will be stellar and search revenue will be really strong when they crash the economy. If I know one thing, it’s that stocks do really well during financial collapses.
Human-Kick-784 on
It’s way worse than that.
Sofware engineers are getting slaughtered atm; look at all the big tech companies laying off devs and shuttering graduate programs. I’m a senior sofware engineer and I do NOT want to be on the market right now…. not long ago we were one of the most in demand roles in an industry screaming for talent. Now the market is flodded and very poor for applicants, both junior and senior.
Tech support is gone; it was all outsourced a decade back to india and such, but now AI chatbots are replacing them too. Pretty much every company is doing this.
The arts and entertainment too; hollywood is simultaneously shitting its pants and licking its lips at the thought of infinite AI generated content without the need to pay actors, residuals, production… meanwhile the need to streamline and cut back is ever growing, as audiences shrink and cinemas go bankrupt from lack of interest. Hell Disney can’t even lure people in with the latest Marvel movies anymore. Artists are being laid off as AI generated content can replace them, Advertising and new media too; writers, reviewers…. many of those jobs are just gone, and they’re not coming back.
This isn’t just entry level stuff either; seasoned experienced veterands of many industries are being laid off for being too experienced and expensive, replaced instead by cheaper offshore labor or AI tools wherever possible. Architects, paralegals, researchers….. its happening across all industries and advancing QUICKLY. And as time goes on, more and more senior level work will be delegated away from humans and towards AI.
And it’s not just white collar jobs; Robotics is steadily improving too; what do you think happens to the construction, services, retail and hospatality industries when they can take on a team of cheap, reliable workers that don’t need rest and don’t have any associated needs for pay, benefits, or training? What do you think happens to freight and shipping when fully autonomous driving is cracked? Given how powerful these LLMs are and the rate they continue to improve….
Governments need to act swiftly and decisively. This is not like when Cars replaced Horses back in the turn of the 20th century; this is a total paradigm shift for humanity. It’s already ugly out there with rapidly growing mass unemployment. There needs to be taxing and legislation put in place to prevent companies from abandoning their human workforce, or they’ll end of making all of humanity redundant and collapse society.
blishness on
What will they do when there are no customers?
ResponsibleHistory53 on
I asked co-pilot today to help me find the differences in two nearly identical and identically formatted pdfs. It got nearly everything wrong, repeatedly. Not just flagging info that was on both docs, but also straight up making up shit that wasn’t on either.
So you’ll forgive me if I don’t think this technology is about to replace the whole us economy.
Nearby-Jelly-634 on
Call centers I feel are going to be one of the first things eliminated.
cazzipropri on
… but 170M jobs created because of AI, according to this forecasts (which I don’t trust a bit, but that’s a different story…)
But in the title, they only put the -90M.
7fingersDeep on
Hopefully AI starts with pulling the names of all the people who post bullshit on LinkedIn – those insufferable assclowns can go and not be missed.
Hypnotized78 on
Dust bowl 2.0
Significant_Many_454 on
AI is the FUTURE
DanishWeddingCookie on
So the article is saying the jobs likely to be affected include housekeepers and caretakers? Are they predicting full robot automation for that because I don’t think a computer program will be able to do the laundry or change a diaper.
de6u99er on
I think the estimate is too low.
Mo_Jack on
We’ve had Management Information Systems that could make better business decisions than CEOs & executives since the late 1980s. And yet they always act like they are the only irreplaceable group in the entire workforce. This is regardless of how many companies they run into the ground or how they have hollowed out our country’s industrial base.
Birdperson15 on
The title is very misleading. The report claims 92 million jobs lost but 170 jobs created for a net positive on jobs in the coming years.
Medical_Idea7691 on
AI couldn’t replace a bad case of genital herpes right now
OkTry9715 on
Yeah this or AI bubble will burst
AntoineDubinsky on
The report they cite doesn’t actually say anything to close to “AI will replace 92 million jobs” it says, a variety of factors, including technology, demographic shifts, climate change, and geopolitical realignment will cycle 92 million jobs out of the economy and cycle 170 million jobs into the economy.
Of course, that doesn’t get clicks like “AI will take our jobs.”
swattwenty on
92 million jobless people with no money and easy access to guns. I’m sure this will go well for the rich.
InfernalDiplomacy on
People forget history but it was mass unemployment and wealth distribution which was the primary cause of the French Revolution. It did not turn out well for those in charge back then. I would be very worried about history repeating itself.
Mods this is not me advocating violence or telling people to violently rebel. I stated history and what happened in the past, that’s it.
Jolly-Roger-HoHoHo on
Customer service, gone. Paralegals, gone. Junior programmers, IT workers, gone..
Just for starters
Automation on the assembly line, robots as assistants, robots remotely controlled by humans in their game cubes. Robots in law enforcement, …
We’re headed for the matrix.
KatiaHailstorm on
As long as needy, dumb people that refuse to read anything exist, we’ll be fine.
OrganicDoom2225 on
It ain’t AI. It’s big tech giving our jobs to India.
GoingAllTheJay on
So it’s from a global forum, but the numbers are just American?
Who TF cares.
They deserve every ounce of pain they get, until they decide democracy is a good idea again.
Hornybunnyboi on
It’s not AI. It’s the greedy guys running the companies. Blaming AI is shifting the blame from the real problem.
recurecur on
Managers are the prime target for replacement for AI.
High cost, next to zero output, easily replaced by AI, and is already beginning note taking, time management and task management systems, break down tasks for humans to enact, run meetings and interact with humans.
Sure a good manager is worth 20 bad ones.
But there’s like 1000s of shitty managers for every good one.
So in the end AI doesn’t have to be the best or even good, just not shit like every manager is already, also AI won’t sexually harass people or hire and promote based on favouritism, and management is significantly overpaid.
What a great job to cut and save so much money for companies.
Ludwig14 on
There is so many projection that this thing is going to be revolutionary but LLM are struggling. We have multiple AIs and they are still not reliable. I’m sure one day it may get there. Yet no one has figured out how to make $$ from or with it. For now I’ll wait and see what the revenue model is going to be before I pass judgement.
Curiousone_78 on
Computer Science jobs. Who needs humans when AI can write the code flawlessly?
AGuyWhoBrokeBad on
I feel sorry for the babies born today. What jobs will be left after 20 years of AI research?
MyDogBikesHard on
When the bubble bursts it will be out of missed projections or anger.
TheBeavster_ on
Holy doomer slop
bikeking8 on
TL;DR: ok hey – the author needs to slow down there, kinda missing the forest for the trees, and wow not even talking about trees now ok sure
Yes, the employment landscape is changing. But this article is all over the place and scatterbrained after the clickbait headline; which, having worked with Ph.Ds in the semiconductor industry, at least leads me to believe *this article* wasn’t AI. It legitimately reads like the emails I used to suffer. First, AI and automation can be two wildly different things; but she’s stating that “caretakers, cleaners and housekeepers” will be affected(?) I’d love to see how ChatGPT will be able to physically clean a property. Secondly, I do wholeheartedly agree early facial recognition AI will likely be programmed to only look for “Caucasian Male A” or “Caucasian Male B”. Finally, as stated above, the contexts of AI and physical automation can be very different. The UCLA study linked in the Forbes article is about *automation,* and references a latinodatahub dot org study, which in turn states “We do not consider recent technological advances such as generative artificial intelligence (AI), as they are still in early development and their impacts on the workforce have not been widely observed.^(19)” and the footnote 19 is: “For a preliminary comparison of the workers vulnerable to generative AI, see Appendix Figure 1 in Galdámezet al., *On the Frontlines: Automation Risks for Latino Workers in California*.” Perhaps the headline should have included the term Automation as well.
slightly_drifting on
It’s not AI that’s going to replace your job.
It’s workflow automation, using ai for any non-deterministic reasoning. That shit scares me.
Lazy-Background-7598 on
This article makes no sense why are house cleaners at risk?
five3x11 on
Hopefully it’ll replace the writers behind these fearmongering articles.
Trevor_GoodchiId on
Forbes product managers. Not gonna bother wading through the ads, this is ridiculous.
exneo002 on
This is your reminder that Forbes is
1) a hollowed out magazine for seo farming
2) incentivized to sell this Pollyanna (for execs) viewpoint so they’ll keep reading the magazine
3) way short on actual evidence.
We haven’t seen massive llm gains for several training cycles, I think this is because of a number of factors but we won’t see gains without breakthroughs in training.
Serasul on
Everyone who sits infront of a PC 80% of the time,will be jobless first.
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I’d have to guess a lot of redundant middle management type jobs where they delegate work out to people. Same to those who are delegated to, probably anyone who’s job primarily revolves around building out spreadsheet off daily generated data. Probably tech support in a major way as well
92 million by 2030. Geeze, thats almost a third the population of the US
Just in time to raid my 401k great
Hmmm, the article mentions that over 170 million jobs created due to AI, so far more created than lost based on this paper. Granted, the jobs created could be at a different economic level than the ones lost.
Whose ass did they pull these numbers from?
AI erased all my work training AI already (at my level) because now they have these stupid chatbots that people will use for free or even pay to use and they’re trained by them now. Training AI was my sole source of income for several years. I knew it was coming just not this fast. There are a few jobs here and there but fewer every few months.
Hopefully Realtors. Worthless profession IMHO
We need a massive redistribution of wealth. This can’t work if 100 people own everything. Why would we accept that? There is an understanding in a society that we all work together as a whole. It is accepted that some people have more than others because of their position or training. It is not acceptable for a handful of people to own everything. I am not going to go die on the streets because rich people want to become even more disgustingly rich!
It’s not necessarily that AI will remove all the jobs, but most will be outsourced and some will be replaced by AI.
in 5 years? no fucking way.
Ha, my director level job in tech was”replaced by AI” last year!
I’m sure shareholder value will look really good when they crash the economy. I’m sure Google stock will be stellar and search revenue will be really strong when they crash the economy. If I know one thing, it’s that stocks do really well during financial collapses.
It’s way worse than that.
Sofware engineers are getting slaughtered atm; look at all the big tech companies laying off devs and shuttering graduate programs. I’m a senior sofware engineer and I do NOT want to be on the market right now…. not long ago we were one of the most in demand roles in an industry screaming for talent. Now the market is flodded and very poor for applicants, both junior and senior.
Tech support is gone; it was all outsourced a decade back to india and such, but now AI chatbots are replacing them too. Pretty much every company is doing this.
The arts and entertainment too; hollywood is simultaneously shitting its pants and licking its lips at the thought of infinite AI generated content without the need to pay actors, residuals, production… meanwhile the need to streamline and cut back is ever growing, as audiences shrink and cinemas go bankrupt from lack of interest. Hell Disney can’t even lure people in with the latest Marvel movies anymore. Artists are being laid off as AI generated content can replace them, Advertising and new media too; writers, reviewers…. many of those jobs are just gone, and they’re not coming back.
This isn’t just entry level stuff either; seasoned experienced veterands of many industries are being laid off for being too experienced and expensive, replaced instead by cheaper offshore labor or AI tools wherever possible. Architects, paralegals, researchers….. its happening across all industries and advancing QUICKLY. And as time goes on, more and more senior level work will be delegated away from humans and towards AI.
And it’s not just white collar jobs; Robotics is steadily improving too; what do you think happens to the construction, services, retail and hospatality industries when they can take on a team of cheap, reliable workers that don’t need rest and don’t have any associated needs for pay, benefits, or training? What do you think happens to freight and shipping when fully autonomous driving is cracked? Given how powerful these LLMs are and the rate they continue to improve….
Governments need to act swiftly and decisively. This is not like when Cars replaced Horses back in the turn of the 20th century; this is a total paradigm shift for humanity. It’s already ugly out there with rapidly growing mass unemployment. There needs to be taxing and legislation put in place to prevent companies from abandoning their human workforce, or they’ll end of making all of humanity redundant and collapse society.
What will they do when there are no customers?
I asked co-pilot today to help me find the differences in two nearly identical and identically formatted pdfs. It got nearly everything wrong, repeatedly. Not just flagging info that was on both docs, but also straight up making up shit that wasn’t on either.
So you’ll forgive me if I don’t think this technology is about to replace the whole us economy.
Call centers I feel are going to be one of the first things eliminated.
… but 170M jobs created because of AI, according to this forecasts (which I don’t trust a bit, but that’s a different story…)
But in the title, they only put the -90M.
Hopefully AI starts with pulling the names of all the people who post bullshit on LinkedIn – those insufferable assclowns can go and not be missed.
Dust bowl 2.0
AI is the FUTURE
So the article is saying the jobs likely to be affected include housekeepers and caretakers? Are they predicting full robot automation for that because I don’t think a computer program will be able to do the laundry or change a diaper.
I think the estimate is too low.
We’ve had Management Information Systems that could make better business decisions than CEOs & executives since the late 1980s. And yet they always act like they are the only irreplaceable group in the entire workforce. This is regardless of how many companies they run into the ground or how they have hollowed out our country’s industrial base.
The title is very misleading. The report claims 92 million jobs lost but 170 jobs created for a net positive on jobs in the coming years.
AI couldn’t replace a bad case of genital herpes right now
Yeah this or AI bubble will burst
The report they cite doesn’t actually say anything to close to “AI will replace 92 million jobs” it says, a variety of factors, including technology, demographic shifts, climate change, and geopolitical realignment will cycle 92 million jobs out of the economy and cycle 170 million jobs into the economy.
Of course, that doesn’t get clicks like “AI will take our jobs.”
92 million jobless people with no money and easy access to guns. I’m sure this will go well for the rich.
People forget history but it was mass unemployment and wealth distribution which was the primary cause of the French Revolution. It did not turn out well for those in charge back then. I would be very worried about history repeating itself.
Mods this is not me advocating violence or telling people to violently rebel. I stated history and what happened in the past, that’s it.
Customer service, gone. Paralegals, gone. Junior programmers, IT workers, gone..
Just for starters
Automation on the assembly line, robots as assistants, robots remotely controlled by humans in their game cubes. Robots in law enforcement, …
We’re headed for the matrix.
As long as needy, dumb people that refuse to read anything exist, we’ll be fine.
It ain’t AI. It’s big tech giving our jobs to India.
So it’s from a global forum, but the numbers are just American?
Who TF cares.
They deserve every ounce of pain they get, until they decide democracy is a good idea again.
It’s not AI. It’s the greedy guys running the companies. Blaming AI is shifting the blame from the real problem.
Managers are the prime target for replacement for AI.
High cost, next to zero output, easily replaced by AI, and is already beginning note taking, time management and task management systems, break down tasks for humans to enact, run meetings and interact with humans.
Sure a good manager is worth 20 bad ones.
But there’s like 1000s of shitty managers for every good one.
So in the end AI doesn’t have to be the best or even good, just not shit like every manager is already, also AI won’t sexually harass people or hire and promote based on favouritism, and management is significantly overpaid.
What a great job to cut and save so much money for companies.
There is so many projection that this thing is going to be revolutionary but LLM are struggling. We have multiple AIs and they are still not reliable. I’m sure one day it may get there. Yet no one has figured out how to make $$ from or with it. For now I’ll wait and see what the revenue model is going to be before I pass judgement.
Computer Science jobs. Who needs humans when AI can write the code flawlessly?
I feel sorry for the babies born today. What jobs will be left after 20 years of AI research?
When the bubble bursts it will be out of missed projections or anger.
Holy doomer slop
TL;DR: ok hey – the author needs to slow down there, kinda missing the forest for the trees, and wow not even talking about trees now ok sure
Yes, the employment landscape is changing. But this article is all over the place and scatterbrained after the clickbait headline; which, having worked with Ph.Ds in the semiconductor industry, at least leads me to believe *this article* wasn’t AI. It legitimately reads like the emails I used to suffer. First, AI and automation can be two wildly different things; but she’s stating that “caretakers, cleaners and housekeepers” will be affected(?) I’d love to see how ChatGPT will be able to physically clean a property. Secondly, I do wholeheartedly agree early facial recognition AI will likely be programmed to only look for “Caucasian Male A” or “Caucasian Male B”. Finally, as stated above, the contexts of AI and physical automation can be very different. The UCLA study linked in the Forbes article is about *automation,* and references a latinodatahub dot org study, which in turn states “We do not consider recent technological advances such as generative artificial intelligence (AI), as they are still in early development and their impacts on the workforce have not been widely observed.^(19)” and the footnote 19 is: “For a preliminary comparison of the workers vulnerable to generative AI, see Appendix Figure 1 in Galdámezet al., *On the Frontlines: Automation Risks for Latino Workers in California*.” Perhaps the headline should have included the term Automation as well.
It’s not AI that’s going to replace your job.
It’s workflow automation, using ai for any non-deterministic reasoning. That shit scares me.
This article makes no sense why are house cleaners at risk?
Hopefully it’ll replace the writers behind these fearmongering articles.
Forbes product managers. Not gonna bother wading through the ads, this is ridiculous.
This is your reminder that Forbes is
1) a hollowed out magazine for seo farming
2) incentivized to sell this Pollyanna (for execs) viewpoint so they’ll keep reading the magazine
3) way short on actual evidence.
We haven’t seen massive llm gains for several training cycles, I think this is because of a number of factors but we won’t see gains without breakthroughs in training.
Everyone who sits infront of a PC 80% of the time,will be jobless first.