Disappointed by Germany – Poles are moving back to Poland

I’m not surprised whatsoever.
It was expected.

I do wonder whether the decision to leave Berlin by openly gay Jacek Dehnel and his partner might have to do with conditions like [[one](https://www.reddit.com/r/poland/comments/1ksb1pm/comment/mtm9m06/)|[two](https://www.reddit.com/r/poland/comments/1lyndv1/comment/n2vo427/)|[three](https://www.reddit.com/r/poland/comments/1l30hil/comment/mvx4ypd/)|[four](https://www.reddit.com/r/poland/comments/1lvhjku/comment/n268tpu/)].

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>There were also cases in which Muslim children did not play with Christian children at school because their fathers had forbidden it. …

>One teacher reports that she wanted to paint Easter eggs with her students and decorate the windows with them at Easter, ‘but that was not possible.’ Children shouted ‘haram,’ saying that painting Easter eggs was ‘forbidden’ under Islamic law. …

>Pupils had verbally abused Inácio-Stech with homophobic slurs in class, on school trips and in the playground, calling him ‘a disgrace to Islam’. They told him to leave the school because ‘Islam is the boss here’. Some students refused to accept food from him because, as a homosexual, he was ‘unclean.’ This is how Inácio-Stech describes it, and several colleagues confirmed these statements.

[sueddeutsche.de – Islamism at Berlin elementary school: Teachers report more incidents: “Complete system failure” in the face of bullying and violence](https://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/berlin-carl-bolle-grundschule-islamismus-gewalt-mobbing-li.3262596)

After all, The Berlin police chief warns

>However, there are areas – and we have to be honest at this point – where I would advise people who wear a kippah or are openly gay or lesbian to be more attentive. … There are certain neighbourhoods where mostly people of Arab descent live who also have sympathies for terrorist groups

[zeit.de, November 2024](https://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeitgeschehen/2024-11/berlin-polizeipraesidentin-juden-homosexuelle-gefahr-orte-islamismus)

while a representative of the gay and lesbian association Berlin-Brandenburg said in an interview:

>Queer people always have a map in their heads: I don’t hold hands here, I don’t openly show myself as queer here – out of fear.

[source on request, would have to look it up again]

Maybe it’s time to rethink old stereotypes about the countries not only when it comes to the economy.

Because of safety.

As a German, the bureaucracy is unfortunately a big problem here, at least some stuff can be done online now, but I think especially for non-Germans it is even more confusing and frustrating, also because many documents are only available in German

yeah, my home country is going downhill but some of the interviewees didn’t seem to be entirely truthful lol

Every idiot can get a lease agreement for a car. If you can’t get it, there is 100% something fishy going on.

Other guy went to Berlin. well, welcome to hell lol. Berlin is EXTREMELY expensive and as a writer your income will fluctuate kinda wildly. And then again, yes if you wanna claim benefits of some sort, you’ll have to deal with the bureaucracy. I mean what did he apply for?

Also the complaints in the article have really, really little to do with the state or city.

First couple just had a typical slumlord. And sorry about the car leasing but as a interpreter, does she have a full-time stable job doing this?

To the writer: He wanted to claim some sort of benefits while living in Berlin ( and probably not in a 30m² apartment) and to claim benefits you have to show that you actually need them. That probably also means showing that you don’t have many assets in other countries and it probably also means living in a kinda big inner city- berlin apartment (about 1200-2400€ cold) will absolutely disqualify you from claiming benefits.

Also when you ask for benefits and tell city-officials you’re a writer, they might tell you to take on another job.

Would be MUCH more interesting to listen to Polish Craftsmen and actual workers. Not just interpreters, organisers of art-shows and writers. 2 of 3 are heavily dependant on people having time and money to enjoy their art. Which in todays time just isnt the case.

> “because the candidate of the right-wing PIS party had won the presidential election”

Lmao

I am 38 years old. When I was 6, I moved to Germany with my parents. I am now considering returning to Poland because I feel that Germany is sinking into crisis. There are more and more problems, such as urban pollution, inefficient government agencies, rising crime, deteriorating infrastructure, and economic decline. As an engineer, I feel the effects of deindustrialization directly. I am also annoyed that Germany often adapts to newcomers from Muslim countries instead of expecting them to integrate.

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Mam 38 lat. W wieku 6 lat przeprowadziłem się z rodzicami do Niemiec. Zastanawiam się teraz nad powrotem do Polski, ponieważ mam wrażenie, że Niemcy pogrążają się w kryzysie. Coraz więcej problemów, takich jak zanieczyszczenie miast, niesprawne urzędy, rosnąca przestępczość, pogarszająca się infrastruktura i spadek gospodarczy. Jako inżynier odczuwam skutki deindustrializacji bezpośrednio. Denerwuje mnie też, że Niemcy często dostosowują się do przybyszów z krajów muzułmańskich zamiast oczekiwać integracji z ich strony.

Poland into Space

Jacek Dehnel, ten który rozpętał aferę o słabe opowiadanie Jacka Komudy.

Why do I get the feeling that Mr Gay’s problems weren’t exactly with “the bureaucracy”?

Not sure how Germany is failed stated. Prices in Poland are crazy – mortgages, real estate, groceries, coffee, restaurants.
Last Friday I’ve visited Germany and my mind can’t comprehend how coffee in Frankfurt airport could cost 4.8 euro while cost in Krakow airport is 26 zl. Bottles Water was more expensive in Frankfurt airport .
Then I drove to city near stuttgart, bought a kebab and price for it was 7 euro, fresh meat, veggies and freshly baked bread. Kebab prices in Krakow around 8 euro, veggies are not that fresh and bread as well.

I’m not saying Poland is bad, but I doubt Germany is failed state. What covid and post covid inflation did to Poland is really sad.
Both counties are nice and have pros and cons

I chuj z Niemcami

I’m moving back as well feom the USA