Starship will not be successful in beating China back to the moon. It’s been a money pit for the US taxpayers with very little to show for it. SpaceX is years behind Musk’s promised timeline.
RhesusFactor on
Some welds didn’t hold and it went pop during a pressure test. No biggie, that’s what quality testing is for. Learn from it and fabricate another.
manicdee33 on
Test article for new construction highlights a problem in design or build. No surprises here.
Hands up everyone who expected a SpaceX test article to pass on the first attempt. No? Good, because that’s not how SpaceX does things. They do what they consider to be “enough” design on paper, then answer questions by building physical items and watching how they fail.
Just a reminder, it was SpaceX testing of Dragon’s parachute system that highlighted problems with NASA’s modelling of parachutes.
And please no nonsense about “tax dollars” since there are no tax dollars being spent on Starship launch system development. There is NASA money being spent on Starship HLS, which is modifications to Starship required to ferry crew to the Moon and not development of the base vehicle.
DowntownTorontonian on
I’m not entirely unconvinced there is not a corrolation between the moral of the people at SpaceX with everything going on with Musk and the quality of his spacecrafts.
Darksmithe on
Paid for by your tax dollars, but don’t worry any profits will be privatized.
FragrantExcitement on
Did they look around for it? You always start with the last place you saw it.
alphabetaparkingl0t on
why do I have the feeling that SpaceX and Elon are taking BO’s success of New Glenn personally?
That’s not good for business. It’s going to lead to mistakes if it hasn’t alread… oh wait.
Atophy on
Looks like it just popped this time rather than a big fireball like the last one… woulda sucked after having just rebuilt the site ! 😆
racingwthemoon on
Can we stop pretending these guys are able to do what they are PAID TO DO BY US TAXPAYERS.
FordGT2017 on
I like that thumbnail photo. Make Elon look very worried
baron_lars on
It’s split right at one of the chines, kinda looks like another copv decided to go bomb mode
F9-0021 on
All of the weird SpaceX fans in here would be celebrating if this happened to New Glenn or better yet SLS. But it’s SpaceX and they can do no wrong or make a bad vehicle.
For all of the new SpaceX fans out there, there’s a reason why nobody builds and tests rockets the way that SpaceX is doing for Starship. It’s not that they never thought of doing it, in fact the military used to do it back in the 50s and 60s. They stopped because a functional vehicle is more important than making something sloppy fast. Especially when you’re putting billion dollar spy satellites (or people) on them.
That’s part of the reason why, despite being announced on the same week as each other, New Glenn has placed two payloads into orbit and Starship struggles to not blow up on the test stand. In fact, if SpaceX were willing to wait on developing the reusable upper stage, they could have been having starlink launches for a couple of years now. But no, they had to go and bite off more than they could chew, underbid more serious HLS competition, and place our national human spaceflight program in jeopardy.
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Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
|——-|———|—|
|[BO](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq45t6v “Last usage”)|Blue Origin (*Bezos Rocketry*)|
|[COPV](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq41lmc “Last usage”)|[Composite Overwrapped Pressure Vessel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_overwrapped_pressure_vessel)|
|[FAA](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq3vrh5 “Last usage”)|Federal Aviation Administration|
|GSE|Ground Support Equipment|
|[HLS](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq411zm “Last usage”)|[Human Landing System](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_program#Human_Landing_System) (Artemis)|
|[MAF](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq3xftz “Last usage”)|Michoud Assembly Facility, Louisiana|
|[NG](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq46v3t “Last usage”)|New Glenn, two/three-stage orbital vehicle by Blue Origin|
| |Natural Gas (as opposed to pure methane)|
| |Northrop Grumman, aerospace manufacturer|
|[SLS](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq3yrs4 “Last usage”)|Space Launch System heavy-lift|
|[ULA](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq3xov0 “Last usage”)|United Launch Alliance (Lockheed/Boeing joint venture)|
|Jargon|Definition|
|——-|———|—|
|[Starlink](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq3vj6q “Last usage”)|SpaceX’s world-wide satellite broadband constellation|
|[cryogenic](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq3x0vu “Last usage”)|Very low temperature fluid; materials that would be gaseous at room temperature/pressure|
| |(In re: rocket fuel) Often synonymous with hydrolox|
|hydrolox|Portmanteau: liquid hydrogen fuel, liquid oxygen oxidizer|
|[scrub](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq3wl80 “Last usage”)|Launch postponement for any reason (commonly GSE issues)|
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Starship will not be successful in beating China back to the moon. It’s been a money pit for the US taxpayers with very little to show for it. SpaceX is years behind Musk’s promised timeline.
Some welds didn’t hold and it went pop during a pressure test. No biggie, that’s what quality testing is for. Learn from it and fabricate another.
Test article for new construction highlights a problem in design or build. No surprises here.
Hands up everyone who expected a SpaceX test article to pass on the first attempt. No? Good, because that’s not how SpaceX does things. They do what they consider to be “enough” design on paper, then answer questions by building physical items and watching how they fail.
Just a reminder, it was SpaceX testing of Dragon’s parachute system that highlighted problems with NASA’s modelling of parachutes.
And please no nonsense about “tax dollars” since there are no tax dollars being spent on Starship launch system development. There is NASA money being spent on Starship HLS, which is modifications to Starship required to ferry crew to the Moon and not development of the base vehicle.
I’m not entirely unconvinced there is not a corrolation between the moral of the people at SpaceX with everything going on with Musk and the quality of his spacecrafts.
Paid for by your tax dollars, but don’t worry any profits will be privatized.
Did they look around for it? You always start with the last place you saw it.
why do I have the feeling that SpaceX and Elon are taking BO’s success of New Glenn personally?
That’s not good for business. It’s going to lead to mistakes if it hasn’t alread… oh wait.
Looks like it just popped this time rather than a big fireball like the last one… woulda sucked after having just rebuilt the site ! 😆
Can we stop pretending these guys are able to do what they are PAID TO DO BY US TAXPAYERS.
I like that thumbnail photo. Make Elon look very worried
It’s split right at one of the chines, kinda looks like another copv decided to go bomb mode
All of the weird SpaceX fans in here would be celebrating if this happened to New Glenn or better yet SLS. But it’s SpaceX and they can do no wrong or make a bad vehicle.
For all of the new SpaceX fans out there, there’s a reason why nobody builds and tests rockets the way that SpaceX is doing for Starship. It’s not that they never thought of doing it, in fact the military used to do it back in the 50s and 60s. They stopped because a functional vehicle is more important than making something sloppy fast. Especially when you’re putting billion dollar spy satellites (or people) on them.
That’s part of the reason why, despite being announced on the same week as each other, New Glenn has placed two payloads into orbit and Starship struggles to not blow up on the test stand. In fact, if SpaceX were willing to wait on developing the reusable upper stage, they could have been having starlink launches for a couple of years now. But no, they had to go and bite off more than they could chew, underbid more serious HLS competition, and place our national human spaceflight program in jeopardy.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
|——-|———|—|
|[BO](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq45t6v “Last usage”)|Blue Origin (*Bezos Rocketry*)|
|[COPV](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq41lmc “Last usage”)|[Composite Overwrapped Pressure Vessel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_overwrapped_pressure_vessel)|
|[FAA](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq3vrh5 “Last usage”)|Federal Aviation Administration|
|GSE|Ground Support Equipment|
|[HLS](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq411zm “Last usage”)|[Human Landing System](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_program#Human_Landing_System) (Artemis)|
|[MAF](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq3xftz “Last usage”)|Michoud Assembly Facility, Louisiana|
|[NG](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq46v3t “Last usage”)|New Glenn, two/three-stage orbital vehicle by Blue Origin|
| |Natural Gas (as opposed to pure methane)|
| |Northrop Grumman, aerospace manufacturer|
|[SLS](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq3yrs4 “Last usage”)|Space Launch System heavy-lift|
|[ULA](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq3xov0 “Last usage”)|United Launch Alliance (Lockheed/Boeing joint venture)|
|Jargon|Definition|
|——-|———|—|
|[Starlink](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq3vj6q “Last usage”)|SpaceX’s world-wide satellite broadband constellation|
|[cryogenic](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq3x0vu “Last usage”)|Very low temperature fluid; materials that would be gaseous at room temperature/pressure|
| |(In re: rocket fuel) Often synonymous with hydrolox|
|hydrolox|Portmanteau: liquid hydrogen fuel, liquid oxygen oxidizer|
|[scrub](/r/Space/comments/1p3d2bs/stub/nq3wl80 “Last usage”)|Launch postponement for any reason (commonly GSE issues)|
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