A clear majority of the U.S. public finds standard animal agriculture practices for pigs, cows, and chickens to be unacceptable, ranging from 71% to 85%, depending on the practice.

Posted by lnfinity

45 Comments

  1. i_want_to_be_unique on

    Now what percent of that 85% would be willing to pay more or stop eating meat to improve their living conditions?

  2. Stated preference: animal welfare in factory farms is unacceptable

    Revealed preference: not willing to pay one cent more for anything else

  3. I wonder how much about these standard practices the average American knows.

    And I’m not sure if they understand the word “unacceptable”, because they clearly are buying and eating the meat that results from these practices.  If it were unacceptable, would they not buy that meat/find better sources for that meat?  I buy chicken from a local farmer.  It costs more, but I know how the birds are raised and handled, plus the quality of the meat is a lot better than what I can get in the grocery store.

  4. Clear majority of the US still wants affordable beef, pork, and chicken. “Acceptable” practices will make these meats completely unaffordable.

  5. This kind of reminds me of a woman I know. She loved to eat meat products, but would freak out if you tried to tell her how they were made.

    That is to say, I think Americans are ignorant of agricultural practices in general, whether they’re large factory farms or mom and pop shops. Nobody wants to think about how the burger they’re eating used to have a face.

  6. JustHere_4TheMemes on

    “A clear majority of the U.S. public is utterly ignorant of standard animal agriculture practices for pigs, cows, and chickens, ranging from 98% to 99%, depending on the American asked.”

    fixed the title for you.

  7. Fringelunaticman on

    So, as someone who finds it unacceptable but who also eats a ton of meat, I understand I am a hypocrite.

    Would I pay more if they went to practices i find acceptable, I would. But, even now, thats a hard thing to do where I live and my living space(I can’t go to a local farm and buy half a cow due to lack of storage space).

    But, if the whole industry moved ro better practices, I would have no choice and id be fine with that

  8. rutherfraud1876 on

    I don’t have issues with any of these practices unless they make the food worse to eat

  9. People are too disconnected from their food. Food is cheap because it’s mass produced. You can’t mass produce food with significantly higher standards.

  10. I think a vast majority of Americans would find many mass production practices unacceptable. It’s not just how we get our meat, but also our clothes, electronics, jewelry, and other things that make up our lifestyle.

  11. TheCapitalLetterB on

    What percentage of those that say conditions are unacceptable are experts in that field?

  12. Thing is as written this is not true.

    Likely it should read as:

    When informed of what US standard animal agricultural practices are, a clear majority of a study group found them unacceptable.

    I suspect that the majority are quite happy eating in ignorance.

  13. I pay 15% higher prices for beef from a local butcher that has his own herd and has it processed locally, humanely. There are also local options for pork, chicken, and lamb. (20% higher) For the humans and animals to win, these small producers need to prosper.

    Meat should be expensive though. It’s not healthy to eat it every day and cheap meat is VERY unhealthy. “good meat isn’t cheap, and cheap meat isn’t good.”

    I understand I’m very fortunate but look around. Other options are out there. The food industry conglomerates are fucking evil, and we all know it. They’re evil to the animals, evil to their employees, and evil to the customers they sell their diseased products to.

  14. Whew! Glad we got that cleared up. Now that the plutocrats know their abuses of these animals are unpopular, they’ll fix everything. Good thing that’s how the system works. Can you imagine if responding to a poll didn’t do anything about injustice?

  15. Yet they continue to support the industry that uses the practices. If you don’t buy it they will stop

  16. Yeah that’s why I stopped buying meat from big box grocery stores

    We have a local rancher who we buy from now, he will let us come out and watch his practice whenever we want to make sure there’s no cruelty or nefarious things involved and the meat just plain tastes way better

    Expensive as shit though so I understand why others don’t do that

  17. I’d pay more. The problem is that “more” here can be 300%. If chicken is $2/lb, I don’t know about $9/lb for organic free range, when those labels aren’t even legal terms that mean treatment is much different

  18. 2ICenturySchizoidMan on

    I can convince myself that the morality of meat production is insignificant enough for me to eat meat, especially considering that these are domesticated species that wouldn’t exist without human intervention. I have no excuse for the environmental impact though.

  19. I’ve done the whole field to freezer thing with my deer and that whole process has given me a lot more insight into where I get my meat from and a bigger desire to source it myself as much as I can. When I harvest that deer I know it was taken as humanely as possible and while it was alive it was living it’s best deer life in the wild. I’ll have to keep track this year better but I want to say I eat more venison than I do beef. Still eat a lot of chicken and pork though. I’ve looked into getting chickens but the zoning here wouldn’t allow an operation large enough to be worth it for food.

  20. obligatory-purgatory on

    Have you seen dairy cows covered in shit? They invite the public in to look at them in their mud haven. It smells like hell and they sell raw milk. Somehow it’s all safe and normal. 

  21. If US raises standards significantly, we know what consumers will do: switch to cheaper imports, complain about protective policies/greedy ranchers/capitalists and ignore the same problem too (aka outsourcing problems). Whoever answered survey just wanted to feel better about themselves anyway, essentially useless yet prevalent.

  22. This is an interesting stat considering no one I know was asked about this. How could the percentage be that high?

  23. ladyeclectic79 on

    I work food safety, a lot of the “standard practices” exist to keep the food we eat safe. For instance, pigs nowadays are often raised on concrete slabs (covered in straw at least) to prevent them from rooting around in the dirt and picking up parasites like Trichina and worms. On the other side of things, there’ve been so many worries about antibiotics in our meats that now if a cow or other farm animal has an abscess, often it’s not treated because that might “taint” the meat; instead, they’re rushed to slaughter before it gets too much worse.

    Still though, there’ve are businesses that try to be more “humane” to the animals, allowing them to roam and free-range. With those more holistic (“organic” even) practices come higher prices, and as we’ve seen people get mad-mad when the price of their meat goes up. And do NOT even get me started on standard chicken practices – there’s sadly a reason why that is so much cheaper than beef or pork, and it often has to do with how they’re raised/slaughtered as fast and “efficiently” as possible.

    Get up in arms all you want, just know the public’s outcry for cheap meat is what leads to the kind of conditions you so often see in videos and stories. We do try to keep the really bad stuff from happening, but until people start fighting with their wallets and not memes/upvotes the industry won’t really change.

  24. AlfredoAllenPoe on

    Who wants better conditions for animals?

    🙋🙋‍♀️🙋‍♂️

    Who wants to pay the cost for better conditions for animals?

    🙅‍♂️🙅🙅‍♀️

  25. GroundbreakingBag164 on

    The magic word is “veganism” but people would rather go on and on about how they’d be willing to “pay more for ‘ethical’ meat” even though they could be paying less for the most ethical food imaginable

  26. Leptonshavenocolor on

    “unacceptable” but they still gobble up the meat, not sure that a majority of the US public has intelligence.

  27. Easy-Impression-9757 on

    The entire industries are cruel and disgusting, I’ve sworn off meat completely at this point..

  28. A clear majority of the us public has no fucking idea what actually happens on a farm. Shit half think milk and beef just come from a store and don’t know how it gets there.

  29. iloveforaminifera on

    I’m with Adam Ragusea: meat should be a treat, not an everyday sort of thing. That way, the price of high quality, ethically-sourced meat doesn’t hurt so much. Meat consumption in developed countries is anomalous within the grand scope of history, and it wouldn’t hurt us to take a step back from where we are on this matter. 

  30. Yet Republicans have taken to banning synthetic, lab grown meat in their states. Why? Because many of them own cattle farms.

  31. I wonder how “a clear majority” of the U.S. public would feel about meat on store shelves becoming a rare, expensive “boutique” item?

  32. 71-85% of Americans feel they ought to say they find it unacceptable, while only 2% find it unacceptable, by which I mean they don’t pay to continue treating animals this way by buying eggs and bacon. With a little research, it’s easy to maintain an affordable and nutritionally complete diet without meat, as people have done for centuries. 

    Tip: if you have a low tolerance for fiber but can’t afford to buy commercial vegan meats, you can buy pure wheat protein (vital wheat gluten) and make it in your own kitchen for much cheaper than beef or chicken. There are many good recipes online and I’m happy to share mine with anyone that wants.

  33. This is exactly the problem with surveys. You ask people, they say one thing. But when they buy or vote, they do something totally different.

  34. There is no such thing as ethically killing an animal that wants to live. You can’t ethically separate animals from their families. You can’t ethically rape animals for their secretions. It’s all a marketing plot to make people feel better about doing terrible things. Kind of like “save the bees by breeding one type of bee and eating their honey” or “save the fish by using non-plastic straws, here’s some cod to eat though” the only ethical thing to do is leave them alone and stop breeding them.

  35. The present practices result in the present cost of food.    People don’t want prices to increase.