Wingo is a bit confusing to me. Does someone know how much 5G is included in the current Wingo Red Pro offering? And how does that compare to the Full Speed 5G option?
And is it not customer misleading and false advertising to advertise 2Gbit/s "full speed" when the 5G standard goes until 10Gbit/s. Should it not be called 20% or 1/5th speed?
Wingo 5G Full Speed actually is 20% speed
byu/Mac-Gyver-1234 inSwitzerland
Posted by Mac-Gyver-1234
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if you find anyone anywhere in the world that will offer you 10gbit 5g (where you actually get to that speed) please tell me, kinda wana try it.
in actual reality 2gbits is what you can expect to get in europe as shortwave/millimeter wave 5g(which supports faster speeds) is only available in america( because i think that spectrum of the band is closed in europe afaik), and has basically 0 range(and european versions of phones dont have recievers for it). and even that one doesnt come close to 10gbit
In addition to what the previous comment says, what use case do you have in 2025 for more than 2Gbit/s in wireless data transmission speeds?
usualy there is a good reason why some stuff is cheaper then other
It’s the same idea as many operators say unlimited data on 4G but after 40 gb it’s 200 kb/s
>Does someone know how much 5G is included in the current [Wingo Red Pro](https://www.wingo.ch/de/mobile/wingo-red-pro) offering?
Zero
>And is it not customer misleading and false advertising to advertise 2Gbit/s “full speed” when the 5G standard goes until 10Gbit/s.
No, even the “premium” carriers only offer 2Gbit/s (Swisscom, Sunrise) or 1.7 Gbit/s (Salt). So Full Speed 5G offers you the same unthrottled access as you’d get by subsribing directly to the largest option at Swisscom.
Not advertising 10 Gbit/s when you’ll never ever get that under irl conditions actually sounds like more honest advertising. As a reference, I did just did a speedtest being on swisscoms net and got 750Mbps with 90m distance and direct line of sight to the antenna.
I believe it’s the maximum speed you can get on the 3.5 GHz frequency band.
No carrier at this time have antennas emitting at higher frequencies as they need approval from the Confederation (ComCom, BAKOM, etc) first.
https://carteantennesuisse.ch/de/informationen-antennen-5g-nsa-sa-massive-mimo-latenz-bandbreite/
https://www.bakom.admin.ch/en/frequently-asked-questions-5g
What CPU do you have in your 5G device that could handle >=2Gbits? A 5G router with high gain antennas? https://consumer.huawei.com/en/routers/5g-cpe-pro-2/
OP doesn’t understand how mobile networks work.
Actual speed for a single device depends largely on three factors:
– Bandwidth: this is how much spectrum is available, and this is determined by the spectrum auctions. For example, if a carrier has 5G on 1900 to 1960 MHz, they have 60 MHz of “band” to be used. The lower the frequency, the better the penetration and reception, but less spectrum is available. The higher the frequency, the more spectrum is available but penetration is really bad, being blocked by anything.
– Spectral efficiency: this is determined by the technology used, and determines how much data you can transmit on that bandwidth, usually measured in bits/s/Hz. Typical real world efficiency for 5G is, IIRC, about 2X of 4G, something like ~3bits/s/Hz. Theoretical values could go up to 10bps/Hz. At the 3bps/Hz, those 60MHz of band should allow for 180Mbps, which would be split between up and downstream (per cell, a tower usually has 3 cells, one in each direction)
– Concurrent usage: naturally, you’re almost never the only one using that cell, so those 180Mbps I mentioned before might be covering hundreds of users. Not all are using a lot at the same time, so some users might see a much higher speed. Also, different Services have different priorities, so a video call might have lower priority than downloading a file.
All of this means that, in practice, “theoretical values” are irrelevant. Actual bandwidth varies tremendously by carrier, spectrum, country, environment (humidity, rain, material of walls), device (antenna location, technology supported) and so much more.
10 Gbit is only possible on mmWave bands (used mainly for mobile broadband), which the Swiss telco’s do not use, and many 5G phones do not support anyway.
2 Gbit is a theoretical value if you are standing next to the tower with no other users in the area. And also only on parts of the network where Swisscom has 5G SA (“standalone’), most of their network is still 5G NSA (=5G over older 4G infrastructure).
TLDR: I get around 150 Mbit down, 30 Mbit up with Wingo 5G
Could be worse: Salt 5G subscriptions always fall back to 4G-only when you put them in a 5G router, presumably they don’t want people to use them in routers.
We actually tested that exact setup, due to adding a second sim from wingo, we switched to full 5g option on to have the second sim as a fast one. Added benefit the first sim gets full 5g
In our town, with some hills, it went from 600mbps to 800mbps.