A paradox of the mid-2020s is that while Russia seems unable to advance much in conventional military terms in Ukraine, it's making stunning advances against NATO countries when it comes to the cyber realm. Its capture of White House foreign policy is a tangible military victory as real as capturing land. Now it looks like it has more of NATO and the US that it can conquer uncontested.
Is anyone going to do anything about their capture of Western AI? I doubt it. Big tech doesn't want the regulation and doesn't care about anything else except money. Meanwhile, Moscow already has the key politicians in its pockets anyway.
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byu/lughnasadh inFuturology
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The second paragraph nails it. The soft power battle was lost years ago. Social media flipped against western values and AI won’t be far behind because why wouldn’t it be. I’m not getting all doomer about it because I don’t think that the disinformation has the penetration that the online bot farms suggest, but we’re definitely going to need to relearn the value of democracy and respect for our fellow human beings at some point.
Sooo basically what the CIA has been doing for 60 years??
There is another country that is seeding it way more thoroughly and no one blinks an eye… And they have a published program to seed more than just AIs and somehow we are not supposed to talk about it?
Please bring it on Russia and any other actor, even American. Â I would love to see companies get harmed by their own greed, from firing humans in favor of AI.
>Its capture of White House foreign policy
I’m sorry, but this shows complete lack of understanding of what is happening in the US. I still have no idea how people can simultaneously hold the thoughts of “Russia is so weak it can’t even capture Ukraine” and “Russia is so strong it can shape the whole Western opinion on Ukraine, rig US elections, and buy the US politicans left and right”
If you read US strategic reports dating even back to 2015, you’ll see that the main threat to the US that they indicate is China. Not Russia. And if the US gets into a conflict with China (which we can see right now with all the economic and tariff pressure), then it wants Russia on its side, or at least not allied to China.
Also, the western oligarchs funding these AIs have no investment in maintaining democracy, they may not be directly conspiring with Russia but they do directly benefit from Russia’s actions, so have no interest in opposing it.
“Russia seems unable to advance much in conventional military terms” – lol? You mad bro? Show me those US EW resistant drones please. Where are US’s Gheran/Gherberas? Also some testing launches of Mach 10 MIRV/ICBM’s would also look interesting to look at… Russia is fighting a peer force fulle supported and equiped by 40something NATO countries, all that still in “white gloves” – otherwise you would see something akin to what is happening in Gaza.
The techno-fascists are counting on it. Implode democracy and supplant it with feudalism where you own nothing and like it. Dissent is met with violence and profitable jails.
Why would anyone think the profit motive gives a fuck about maintaining democracy or even the truth?
I’ve been saying it for years. We should totally isolate Russia from the internet, completely cut them off the trunk.
This wouldn’t happen if they didn’t fucking steal from the internet and used licensed sources.
Omg, AI is already smart enough to not believe western propaganda! It overcome humans!
Alarming how effective the Russian model of propaganda works to destabilize a population. It’s insidious nature isolates people and dissolves trust in everything. There’s even a name for it …
“The Firehose of Falsehoods”
We are seeing this all across the world in real time… it’s escalating …and it’s working. The tragedy is there doesn’t seem much can be done that doesn’t involve the ridged control of information access.
It’s a virus. A self-propelling “organism” that leads towards inevitably more invasive social and informational control. In a way, as others learn how to employ it, becomes a self-fulfilling “prophecy”. A genie-in-a-bottle forcing open societies to defend against it, by reflecting the very model they oppose.
How this competition evolves in the next phases of our ‘information age’ is anyones guess. Easy to say fight fire with fire, but that leaves us in a hole. Easy to say fight with “good” information, but as we can see right in front of us, humans are highly susceptible to suspicion and conspiracy and malignant forces see great benefits.
We should definitely rush to make sure AI is in charge of as much as possible. I can’t see any way this ends poorly. /s