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    Where is the North/South Divide of England according to 7,963 English people

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    3. redvix71 on

      Every Londoner I speak to thinks England ends somewhwre after Manchester and therefore Birmingham is North

    4. Aureon on

      one of the great maps that’s about how about 10% of respondents are just fucking around on every poll

    6. QuietTwiddler24 on

      I’m not even convinced some parts of the ‘North West’ are in the north to be honest. I live in Cumbria 😅

    8. Benjaminook on

      This is not actually a good way of finding out where people think the divide is- these are pre-made statistical regions with some generally pretty strong clues in their names (North West, South East etc). Doing it at a county level is much better, although which counties are used then causes problems (e.g. is Wirral in Merseyside or Cheshire?) and there’s still the High Peak district in Derbyshire which a lot of people would say is in the North despite generally thinking Derbyshire is in the midlands. Ideally you’d just get people to actually draw the line (and possibly tell them whether the midlands are real or not first) and then take some best fit line from that data.

    9. Betheds on

      Wish they would divide the north west region up. Lancashire and Cumbria together. Wouldn’t really consider Cheshire part of the north. Merseyside and greater Manchester are probably just in the north. So would have been interesting to see what people would vote for if it was split up like that.

    13. beingthehunt on

      I’d love to see a map like this that is based only on self-ID. People always draw the line closer to themselves so instead ask people:
      1. where are you from?
      2. Is that place in the north, south or midlands?

      That way people are only grouping themselves and not making assumptions about places they probably know little about.

      My hypothesis is that such a map would yield more clear borders as the areas that are disputed when asking the opinion of both Geordies and Londoners are firmly one side of the line or the other in the minds of those who actually live there.

    14. ThatMovieShow on

      Get in a car and drive south. As soon as you have to pay to use a public bathroom, you’re in the south

    15. multiple-qualia on

      I’m from the north. It astonished me when I asked someone from Exeter where they thought the north started and they said “I guess north of Bristol”. It takes me 8 hours on a coach going south to get to Bristol from where I am lmao.

    16. Ill_Fault7625 on

      ‘I’m not a southerner ‘

      ‘You’re south of the wall boy. That makes you a southerner’

    18. No-Attitude4539 on

      Urgh, I live in Norfolk and we are neither North or South, we are East. It really irks me.

    20. GemoDorg on

      I maintain that there’s not a north-south divide, but rather a north-midlands-south divide.

      Signed, a midlander.

    21. dwair on

      Anywhere east of the Tamar river should be considered “the north”. Whippets and flat caps start at Exeter.

    23. Agent_Eggboy on

      As someone from cheshire (a disputed zone), I consider birmingham to be the great divider.

      I think most people admit the divide is somewhere in the midlands. I’d consider places like Nottingham, Derby and Stoke to be in the North, but places like Leicester and Peterborough to be in the South.

      I’m splitting hairs, but the cutoff point is absolutely somewhere between Sheffield/Manchester and Birmingham/ East Anglia.

    24. Aoae on

      I’m really curious as to the geographic distribution of the 35% of people insisting that Anglia is not part of the South. Are they mostly other people from the South of England?

    25. FermisParadoXV on

      This is one of the stupidest devices I’ve ever seen to decide this.

      The area with Manchester and Liverpool in extends to well south of Birmingham. Are Manchester and Liverpool Northern? Yes. Is Birmingham northern? No.

      Is the area containing Manchester, Liverpool and Birmingham northern? Ermm….

    27. Manospondylus_gigas on

      I think the south starts after Cumbria, although I also have a theory it starts after the furthest south Booths supermarket

    28. Jealous_Constant_864 on

      7000 is not enough

      As someone from the south west, I’ll tell you now. It’s economically north. Which is usually what the divide is abou. Realistically, when you go south of Birmingham, it becomes a west east divide, with the west being closer to the north

    31. BlackJackKetchum on

      This is all a bit useless at regional level. No sane person would ever describe Northamptonshire as North, but that same person might judge Derbyshire to be.