Our inflated GDP messes up all these stats. We spend loads on welfare in reality
captaincink on
anybody have a reliable source on the US number?Â
Temo2212 on
30% of gdp for social benefits?!
Wtf, this is proof that people will abuse absolutely anything if you give them opportunity.
Few-Interview-1996 on
But what does “welfare and social benefits” cover? I’m sure it covers unemployment benefit, but what about healthcare, education, libraries, subsidised transportation? It would be good to know.
Valuable_Bill961 on
Nordic countries manage things very well, but France and Italy are not perfect and waste a huge amount of money.
jarvxs on
Finally, a map labelled as ‘EU’ and not ‘Europe’
frogingly_similar on
Estonia likes to compare itself to Finland. Uhm, yeah… not yet little brother. Not yet.
Lumpy_Argument_1867 on
Don’t forget that pensions are counted as welfare spending
Baoooba on
This shows evidence of the leprechaun economics that is Ireland.
*% reported for other countries are not identicle in this source, but gives an idea
cookiesnooper on
Is it govt spending or overall population spending?
Critical_Patient_767 on
Seems difficult to sustain as the population ages and militaries need to be expanded due to US/russian unpredictability
Emergency_Sink_706 on
But okay I thought if you become a welfare state that your society collapses, everyone stops working, and then there’s way more crime cuz there’s no reason to be a good person or something?Â
Rinerino on
For most parties in my country Ireland is to high
PhilosopherLiving762 on
Interesting to see such disparities across the EU! What influences these differences?
Horse_Cock42069 on
What does Ireland spend money on? They don’t have a military correct?
Dear-Potential-3477 on
Should this map not be % of tax revenue spent not GDP since some countries have a scewed GDP?
Coach_Bombay_D5 on
What is the USA percentage?
lugdunum_burdigala on
I am not criticizing the map, it is informative and can lead to interesting comments. But people also have to realize that if it is not the public sector which covers healthcare or retirement pensions, it will be the private sector (people will still need them no matter what). So slashing benefits might not decrease the actual GDP portion dedicated to these services, it might even increase it.
name212321 on
20% goes in the pockets of politicians in greece
carottopppppppp on
Balkans is greyed out because politicians put that money in their own pockets.
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Our inflated GDP messes up all these stats. We spend loads on welfare in reality
anybody have a reliable source on the US number?Â
30% of gdp for social benefits?!
Wtf, this is proof that people will abuse absolutely anything if you give them opportunity.
But what does “welfare and social benefits” cover? I’m sure it covers unemployment benefit, but what about healthcare, education, libraries, subsidised transportation? It would be good to know.
Nordic countries manage things very well, but France and Italy are not perfect and waste a huge amount of money.
Finally, a map labelled as ‘EU’ and not ‘Europe’
Estonia likes to compare itself to Finland. Uhm, yeah… not yet little brother. Not yet.
Don’t forget that pensions are counted as welfare spending
This shows evidence of the leprechaun economics that is Ireland.
UK – 23.0 (2023)
Norway – 24.1 (2025)
Iceland – 19.2 (2025)
[https://data-explorer.oecd.org/vis?df[ds]=DisseminateFinalDMZ&df[id]=DSD_SOCX_AGG@DF_SOCX_AGG&df[ag]=OECD.ELS.SPD](https://data-explorer.oecd.org/vis?df%5Bds%5D=DisseminateFinalDMZ&df%5Bid%5D=DSD_SOCX_AGG@DF_SOCX_AGG&df%5Bag%5D=OECD.ELS.SPD)
*% reported for other countries are not identicle in this source, but gives an idea
Is it govt spending or overall population spending?
Seems difficult to sustain as the population ages and militaries need to be expanded due to US/russian unpredictability
But okay I thought if you become a welfare state that your society collapses, everyone stops working, and then there’s way more crime cuz there’s no reason to be a good person or something?Â
For most parties in my country Ireland is to high
Interesting to see such disparities across the EU! What influences these differences?
What does Ireland spend money on? They don’t have a military correct?
Should this map not be % of tax revenue spent not GDP since some countries have a scewed GDP?
What is the USA percentage?
I am not criticizing the map, it is informative and can lead to interesting comments. But people also have to realize that if it is not the public sector which covers healthcare or retirement pensions, it will be the private sector (people will still need them no matter what). So slashing benefits might not decrease the actual GDP portion dedicated to these services, it might even increase it.
20% goes in the pockets of politicians in greece
Balkans is greyed out because politicians put that money in their own pockets.