Just another attempt at trying to manufacture consent for massive, unnecessary military spending.
InGenAche on
People seem to forget we beat a world superpower before.
We’re not going toe to toe with anyone, but if you fancy 800 years of a giant pain in the ass and eventual ass kicking, bring it!
AffectionatePack3647 on
Is this supposed to be something new? Lol
TheWebUiGuy on
News today has a 1.7 billion budget going on defence. Should we just invest in automated drone defences? You can see the damage their capable of in Ukraine
SeriesDowntown5947 on
Concern. Yes I think so. For thosevin scandernavia baltics etc have always feared russia. So been concerned is normal. Unless ireland joins NATO that will be how it is. We need US basis in Shannon etc. UK patrols etc like elsewhere in Europe. Otherwise is as now. So what do you think. Shannon for gas storage and a big arsed airforce and navy base for 50000. That is bigger than clare.
SoloWingPixy88 on
It’s a think tank of no concern
MrBulwark on
Why does EU presidency role require Ireland to have a big military? It has nothing to do with military action. Its not in charge of NATO.
TeaAndTalks on
Countries typically have defenses in place to protect key assets.
Key assets do not include the population.
Here are the key assets in Ireland:
Dublin Airport
Baldonell
Shannon
Power stations and ancillary systems
Dublin Port
Cobh deep sea port
And the most important by far:
Bantry Bay
That’s it. Nothing about protecting civilians.
Here’s an idea that was thrown around in the eighties but is much more doable nowadays:
Radar pickets coupled to an IADS with surface to air missile protection for key assets.
It would be far cheaper than an Air Force, can integrate with with the UKs IADS and it would dramatically reduce the amount of personnel needed.
It’s still going to be north of €10 billion startup and €1 billion a year. But a fully ramped up air force and navy would be €50 billion startup and €3 billion a year.
We are really not very educated when it comes to defence.
However appealing the IADS system would be, I would still argue that… we’d never use it.
We only have one real key asset in the whole of the country (Bantry Bay) and a single tactical nuke would turn it into an inferno in half a second.
No matter what we do we can’t defend against that.
hctet on
Connollys stance, and her subsequent landslide victory, must have really stung for a lot of the armchair generals.in here.
burn-eyed on
Reckon the pressure will, rightly, just keep ramping up.
What if the UK say they won’t cover our skies anymore? I wouldn’t blame them, we’re sitting here, awash with cash, refusing to pay, while they have horrible budgets year after year.
Maybe they’ll start charging for the service, tbf I think we’d have little choice but to pay up
Stressed_Student2020 on
Why do we need it this term and didn’t last term?
drunkandhotboy on
More scare-mongering for gullible people. Who held the last 2 EU presidencies? Were they attacked? Do people think Russia will attack Ireland? That is not going to happen and we shouldn’t waste money on people’s delusions
SavingsDimensions74 on
Ireland is much more geo strategically important that we realise.
It’s long past since we should have developed something resembling a credible defence force.
Europe has started to step up.
It is morally and strategically wrong for ireland not to do the same.
Irish201h on
Host the EU presidency in a different country then! Simple!
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Estonia doesn’t have a single fighter jet – instead it has a formal military alliance with most of democratic Europe.
Perhaps we should consider something similar? Noting that we seem to expect the UK, France et al to protect us, yet we don’t reciprocate.
Link to the report:
[*Secure Together – Enhancing Ireland’s Security and Resilience in a Time of Heightened Geopolitical Risk December 2025*](https://www.iiea.com/publications/secure-together-enhancing-irelands-security-and-resilience)
Just another attempt at trying to manufacture consent for massive, unnecessary military spending.
People seem to forget we beat a world superpower before.
We’re not going toe to toe with anyone, but if you fancy 800 years of a giant pain in the ass and eventual ass kicking, bring it!
Is this supposed to be something new? Lol
News today has a 1.7 billion budget going on defence. Should we just invest in automated drone defences? You can see the damage their capable of in Ukraine
Concern. Yes I think so. For thosevin scandernavia baltics etc have always feared russia. So been concerned is normal. Unless ireland joins NATO that will be how it is. We need US basis in Shannon etc. UK patrols etc like elsewhere in Europe. Otherwise is as now. So what do you think. Shannon for gas storage and a big arsed airforce and navy base for 50000. That is bigger than clare.
It’s a think tank of no concern
Why does EU presidency role require Ireland to have a big military? It has nothing to do with military action. Its not in charge of NATO.
Countries typically have defenses in place to protect key assets.
Key assets do not include the population.
Here are the key assets in Ireland:
Dublin Airport
Baldonell
Shannon
Power stations and ancillary systems
Dublin Port
Cobh deep sea port
And the most important by far:
Bantry Bay
That’s it. Nothing about protecting civilians.
Here’s an idea that was thrown around in the eighties but is much more doable nowadays:
Radar pickets coupled to an IADS with surface to air missile protection for key assets.
It would be far cheaper than an Air Force, can integrate with with the UKs IADS and it would dramatically reduce the amount of personnel needed.
It’s still going to be north of €10 billion startup and €1 billion a year. But a fully ramped up air force and navy would be €50 billion startup and €3 billion a year.
We are really not very educated when it comes to defence.
However appealing the IADS system would be, I would still argue that… we’d never use it.
We only have one real key asset in the whole of the country (Bantry Bay) and a single tactical nuke would turn it into an inferno in half a second.
No matter what we do we can’t defend against that.
Connollys stance, and her subsequent landslide victory, must have really stung for a lot of the armchair generals.in here.
Reckon the pressure will, rightly, just keep ramping up.
What if the UK say they won’t cover our skies anymore? I wouldn’t blame them, we’re sitting here, awash with cash, refusing to pay, while they have horrible budgets year after year.
Maybe they’ll start charging for the service, tbf I think we’d have little choice but to pay up
Why do we need it this term and didn’t last term?
More scare-mongering for gullible people. Who held the last 2 EU presidencies? Were they attacked? Do people think Russia will attack Ireland? That is not going to happen and we shouldn’t waste money on people’s delusions
Ireland is much more geo strategically important that we realise.
It’s long past since we should have developed something resembling a credible defence force.
Europe has started to step up.
It is morally and strategically wrong for ireland not to do the same.
Host the EU presidency in a different country then! Simple!