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  1. Jackadullboy99 on

    ““Trump did not appear overnight, and American policy will not change overnight either,” Merz said, adding that future U.S. leadership could prove even less committed to Europe’s security.

    This can’t be emphasized enough. Trump’s departure can only be the beginning of a long process of change in the US.

    This will have to involve an overhaul of institutional safeguards, the social safety net, healthcare, anti-trust regulation, the educational system, and the removal of big money as a corrupting influence on politics.

    The World will be watching.

  2. supercyberlurker on

    Yeah, Trump is still really just a symptom, symbol, rallying point.

    The Heritage Foundation, Project 2025, Federalist Society, MAGA…. *all that would remain after Trump.*

  3. Excellent_Mud_172 on

    We are clearly entering the period when Rome’s hegemony is definitely faltering. Turmoil incoming.

  4. I’m not sure Pax Americana is ending, but the USA is done with Europe in particular. Even under Obama they were “tilting” to Asia and trying to get Europe to wake up. Fact is Europe is not their priority anymore, and then they MAGA part of the USA see the EU as a challenge to their economy.

    As Merz said, this is not an overnight thing.

    Europe needs to be ready to stand alone even if we do then work with allies.

  5. SatisfactoryLoaf on

    Yes, Europe, you must look to yourself.

    Which is fucking dumb, but we have a lot of work to do over here. Let this be a lesson about taking progress for granted, and note what happens when your people no longer possess a shared reality, no longer think with typographic minds.

    Your schools are pillars of both your national identity and your national defense. They should be cathedrals and your teachers heroes.

    Do something about your corporations and your social media. Life shouldn’t feel like a game of Shadowrun.

  6. I really really dislike Friedrich Merz. But on this, he is 1000% correct. We need rearmament, a European security architecture and a European nuclear umbrella. Unfortunately.

  7. Unique_Newspaper_764 on

    If Lady Liberty were personified right now, she’d be a Karen in a pool struggling to keep their head above water, while being aggressive and shouting at anyone that tries to get close.

  8. All this shit just because dems went way too far with all that LGBTQ++ “I identify as a horse” bs in a Christian country.

    You swing the pendulum too hard one way, don’t be surprised it comes swinging back.

    Btw I’m European and I tend to lean dem.

  9. Indeed, the rest of the democratic nations need to assume that the USA is not an ally nation. Maybe not an enemy, but definitely not someone you can depend on

  10. It’s like despite having thousands of years of proof, Europe never learns that history repeats itself. Once Europe rebuilt after WWII, they should have learned their lesson and NEVER relied on a super power for their main source of protection.

    Everyone over in Europe enjoying their tax payer socialism has been a nice phase, but they forgot to spend money on their own independent protection and they might, again, suffer the consequences. Especially if Russia gets bold.

    Meanwhile, American citizens over there with ghastly amounts of homelessness, no socialized healthcare, zero legally mandated paid time off for even maternity, no mandatory child care, etc… but they have a lot more bombs. And guns. And planes. And more weapons than we have ever seen or could imagine….

  11. I would say, the shift of the US started even earlier with Biden …

    A short from Bob Woodward’s Raw book, chapter 77:

    >As vice president in 2009, Biden made an intense, but unsuccessful, effort to talk President Obama out of sending 30,000 additional American troops to Afghanistan. His main argument to Obama was that Afghanistan would resemble the past when the U.S. was “locked into Vietnam.”

    Keeping the United States and American troops from fighting unnecessary war became a bedrock for Biden. By the time Biden became president in 2021, he firmly believed that unless the United States was attacked, sending U.S. troops to solve foreign policy problems had not served the interest of the United States. From Vietnam through Afghanistan and Iraq the troop bandage had failed.

    I think Trump is just a very hard extreme, also cutting all diplomatic ties to Europe. But in general, I think Europe has to stand on its own feet militarily, to be on par with Russia, China and the US.

  12. Substantial_Brain917 on

    I’ve felt that Europe has taken its own defense too unserious for a long time. That said I despise how trump is going about removing American military support. We can still act as a robust and reliable ally while requesting that European partners increase their own domestic security apart from the US.

  13. Good. Let’s see Europe stand up and take care of their own security.

    As far as this American is concerned, Europe is irrelevant on the world stage and the Europe that we cared to protect through the 1900’s no longer exists. Their culture is being replaced, freedoms of speech being restricted and their economy… ha, what modern global business originated in Europe?

    If they don’t care to conserve western civilization then why should we care to conserve them?

  14. Not that America was really holding up their end of any theoretical ‘Pax’ anyway. But, yeah, with Trump’s borderline support of figures like Putin and his own threats of territorial expansion… not just intervention in places where it does more harm than good but outright right of conquest… the Pax Americana is dead and gone. My own country is now a threat to be hedged against.

    When my nation is sharpening a knife while looking at Venezuela, Panama, the chunks of Ukraine that Daddy Putin might leave behind, the Levant, Canada, and *Greenland*…?

  15. Maxwell_Bloodfencer on

    Ok now that even Merz has finally realized it, he should undo all the trade deals he made with Trump out of fear he would harm Germany’s economy.

  16. AGuyWhoBrokeBad on

    Europe better ban Fox News and other American news channels. The USA didn’t turn insane out of nowhere. They’ve been consuming propaganda in their media for decades. The sad thing is that it doesn’t just stay there. Even Canada is showing signs of rot with the Ottawa trucker protests and nearly electing Pierre P until trump screwed him by verbally attacking Canada.

  17. Europe needs to be arming like 1937 in terms of steel and also in being ready for the new environmental and economic collapse points that are now inevitable. The United States government version of the Titanic hit multiple icebergs decades ago and will NEVER be a remotely proper republic again. As an independent lobbyist, I assure you we have irrevocably legalized unlimited bribery and coercion in campaign finance and at many other levels including a visibly hopelessly corrupt supreme court.

    The United States will forever be a mortal enemy of rule of law republics and is lost to decent people. We have already seen this depressing movie.

  18. BarryMcKokinor on

    Good. What’s wrong with Europe bolstering its own defense. they were once the might of the world

  19. bareboneschicken on

    No great nation that spends more on interest than defense will long remain a great nation. History has shown this over and over. The world order is going to change. Prepare for it as best you can.

  20. The underlying cause is also rampant in Europe: Completely unchained capitalism without any regards for social security. Governments bought by the richest and only tipping the scale further towards them.

    And Merz, this provincial wannabe Trump, is leading the charge. His entire grift is kicking down towards the poor, the unemployed, the immigrants, the undesirables, while derailing society further with any given day.

    He wants us to work more, he wants us to retire later, he wants to cut our social security and he doesn’t care at all that price gouging disguised as inflation is eating out paychecks, that rent is skyrocketing and even our best and brightest having a hard time affording a home and a family in our cities, while this neo-feudal robber baron is literally flying around with his own private plane, laughably considering himself middle class.

  21. IuliusWasTaken on

    His party was in charge for most of the last 25 years. They could- and should have prevented this entire disaster at the moment russia attacked Ukraine in 2014 or trump becoming president.

    He also still won’t send fucking Taurus to Ukraine, cause he’s scared to get dragged into a war that we are already in the middle of. His chancellorship is already the most disliked one in modern day German history

    But I guess even a broken corrupt asshole of a clock is right twice a day.

  22. Ukraine Intelligence is reporting that Russia is deploying 12+ Oreshnik systems in Belarus.

    Main target will be Europe. (Russia also puts these into Belarus so the launchers cannot be targeted by Ukraine).

    So..what the fuck do we Europeans have to counter this blatant threat?