[OC] Annual Water Use Comparison between Corn and Data Centers
After seeing a Hank Green video, I wanted an apples-to-apples comparison of water use, U.S. data centers vs irrigated corn. So I converted everything into the same units and plotted the gap with the help of energent AI.
Do you have access to the economic return/impact for each of these? That would be interesting to plot as a second axis.
SomeSchmidt on
Well that settles it, we’re having data center bread with our chili from now on!
DysClaimer on
I immediately wondered if this was in response to the Hank Green video.
Circuit_Guy on
The “detail” chart reducing precision really confused me for a minute there
100king on
More butter on my popped data center please!
xondk on
I wonder how it compares to almond water usage, just out of curiosity.
Evipicc on
But corn provides obesity by injecting corn sugar into everything with government subsidy!
aldwinligaya on
Oh, you actually meant corn.
I thought… the bigger portion is the data centers for “corn”.
motorbit on
bullshit in, bullshit out. unlike corn, datacenters are really bad at using rain water.
sirawesomeson on
This whole argument is absurd, two things can be true and both can be problems worth addressing. Water use in chip manufacturing is a major challenge, water use in power plants requires significant attention and planning, water use in cooling can be significant and potentially change the ecology of the reservoir when the water temperature changes. Evaporative losses in reservoirs are not all the same and each location needs to account for their circumstances.
We also grow an excessive amount of corn that is inefficiently used for ethanol and animal feed. Both are problems that should be and are actively being addressed. Saying that one isn’t a problem because the other should be solved is counter productive.
Magic_Neil on
Corn feeds people, or it feeds animals that feed people. It might even be turned into fuel.
Some datacenters provide critical services and help drive innovation. The datacenters that are going up now? They feed AI shenanigans and crypto BS. There is a LOT of compute in the world, and most of the new stuff is going to foolish endeavors.
I’m a server guy.. I like servers, and I like working on them. I like corn more.
HarlequinKOTF on
Corn is incredibly inefficient yes. That doesn’t make data centers good uses of water. They are *less* water hungry but comparing them directly gallon to gallon isn’t a fair comparison since they aren’t on anywhere near the same scale. Comparing by gallons per acre would be more effective since it would standardize the unit being compared. One data center compared to one field of equivalent size.
Also, I can’t say I like the ai being used to make a graph but appreciate the disclaimer so I can take a spoonful of salt.
Mount Pleasant DC : 62,222.22 gallons per acre per year
It’s certainly more efficient than corn irrigation but not as rosy as the data presented in this post makes it out to be.
RRALink on
Only 17% of US corn production comes from irrigated acres.
Frederf220 on
Which “water”? Potable water? Agricultural water? Rain water? River water? Reservoir water? Gray water? Reclaimed water? Treated water?
dillond18 on
Irish flag but stretched is all I can see
SurlyCricket on
I’d like to add the beef industry to this chart. The numbers I read were nearly 100/1 but that was like a year ago
PatExMachina on
Anything generated by AI does not belong in this sub. Also post sources. Where is this data coming from?
Edit: Spelling lol
ertri on
What are the units? Total use? Use per acre? Use per unit of electricity input?
atrib on
What i don’t get is how is indirect bad? Like in hydro electric plant? It doesnt make water ran through it unusable after or anything like that? Only thing we doing is exploiting the travel of water from high ground to low ground like it would do anyways
papiforyou on
Corn feeds people and livestock. Data centers create slop that takes jobs and ruins the internet.
Blueopus2 on
I take your point but over 80% of corn isn’t irrigated
Western-Edge-965 on
Doesn’t the majority of water for corn just come from rain?
EatTenMillionBalls on
How many people to data centers feed /s
jmercer28 on
I, for one, welcome data-fed beef onto my menu
JackBinimbul on
This is apples and oranges, except at least both apples and oranges are edible.
Corn production in the US is ridiculous, but comparing these two things is incredibly asinine.
greenmachine11235 on
Except it’s not apples to apples. Corn doesn’t use city drinking water to irrigate corn, data centers do for cooling.
Fifteen_inches on
Food vs data centers, justifying poor water use with more poor water use
Ser_Balerion on
“Powered by emergent.ai”
Sureeeee Emergent. Get us looking at corn and not you for high water usage.
I’m picturing Emergent 100% made this post on its own.
djstealthduck on
An AI is telling us that AI doesn’t use a lot of water by comparison. Suspicious!
Varnu on
Why even list “indirect” though? What’s the indirect water use of anything we buy? What’s the indirect water use of taking a shower vs the water used in taking a shower? We don’t talk about indirect water use in ANY other context except for this one, because unless we do so it’s completely trivial.
ThankuConan on
Can’t wait for that cooked rare wagyu marbled data steak.
gully_1 on
Bacon flavored data centers. Hmmm, tastes like solyent green. Opes. I mean…
darien_gap on
Based on all of the “you can’t eat data centers” type comments, might be helpful to show within the green rectangle how much is for human consumption, livestock feed, and ethanol. And clarification about whether these corn gallons are the irrigated or both irrigated and non-irrigated corn.
PantsB on
Why would you need to use AI to make a graph with three data points?
Not beautiful, barely data.
jawdirk on
Imagine how many data centers we could have, if we just got rid of all of this corn farming. WTF is that for anyway? Isn’t corn one of the shittiest commodities? On the other hand, data centers provide necessary resources for AI, the foundation of our economy!
ImmodestPolitician on
40% of corn is grown to add to gasoline.
Incredible dumb because corn depletes the soil.
robbie_the_cat on
And corn feeds us, and provides fuel to an astonishing degree. What tangible benefit do the data centers provide?
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Do you have access to the economic return/impact for each of these? That would be interesting to plot as a second axis.
Well that settles it, we’re having data center bread with our chili from now on!
I immediately wondered if this was in response to the Hank Green video.
The “detail” chart reducing precision really confused me for a minute there
More butter on my popped data center please!
I wonder how it compares to almond water usage, just out of curiosity.
But corn provides obesity by injecting corn sugar into everything with government subsidy!
Oh, you actually meant corn.
I thought… the bigger portion is the data centers for “corn”.
bullshit in, bullshit out. unlike corn, datacenters are really bad at using rain water.
This whole argument is absurd, two things can be true and both can be problems worth addressing. Water use in chip manufacturing is a major challenge, water use in power plants requires significant attention and planning, water use in cooling can be significant and potentially change the ecology of the reservoir when the water temperature changes. Evaporative losses in reservoirs are not all the same and each location needs to account for their circumstances.
We also grow an excessive amount of corn that is inefficiently used for ethanol and animal feed. Both are problems that should be and are actively being addressed. Saying that one isn’t a problem because the other should be solved is counter productive.
Corn feeds people, or it feeds animals that feed people. It might even be turned into fuel.
Some datacenters provide critical services and help drive innovation. The datacenters that are going up now? They feed AI shenanigans and crypto BS. There is a LOT of compute in the world, and most of the new stuff is going to foolish endeavors.
I’m a server guy.. I like servers, and I like working on them. I like corn more.
Corn is incredibly inefficient yes. That doesn’t make data centers good uses of water. They are *less* water hungry but comparing them directly gallon to gallon isn’t a fair comparison since they aren’t on anywhere near the same scale. Comparing by gallons per acre would be more effective since it would standardize the unit being compared. One data center compared to one field of equivalent size.
Also, I can’t say I like the ai being used to make a graph but appreciate the disclaimer so I can take a spoonful of salt.
Edit: for those down voting i did some preliminary research. Corn uses approximately 680,000 gallons of water per acre annually. https://www.pioneer.com/us/agronomy/water-corn-growth.html#:~:text=Approximately%20400%2C000%20gallons%20of%20water,evaporates%20from%20the%20soil%20surface.
Data centers can use around a wide range depending on their size and age but focusing on the one in Mount Pleasant (135 acre facility https://spectrumnews1.com/wi/milwaukee/news/2025/11/12/microsoft-data-center-mount-pleasant) is estimated to use 8.4 million gallons per year. https://www.wpr.org/news/microsoft-data-centers-8-million-gallons-water-each-year which when converted to gallons per acre is:
Corn : 680,000 gallons per acre per year
Mount Pleasant DC : 62,222.22 gallons per acre per year
It’s certainly more efficient than corn irrigation but not as rosy as the data presented in this post makes it out to be.
Only 17% of US corn production comes from irrigated acres.
Which “water”? Potable water? Agricultural water? Rain water? River water? Reservoir water? Gray water? Reclaimed water? Treated water?
Irish flag but stretched is all I can see
I’d like to add the beef industry to this chart. The numbers I read were nearly 100/1 but that was like a year ago
Anything generated by AI does not belong in this sub. Also post sources. Where is this data coming from?
Edit: Spelling lol
What are the units? Total use? Use per acre? Use per unit of electricity input?
What i don’t get is how is indirect bad? Like in hydro electric plant? It doesnt make water ran through it unusable after or anything like that? Only thing we doing is exploiting the travel of water from high ground to low ground like it would do anyways
Corn feeds people and livestock. Data centers create slop that takes jobs and ruins the internet.
I take your point but over 80% of corn isn’t irrigated
Doesn’t the majority of water for corn just come from rain?
How many people to data centers feed /s
I, for one, welcome data-fed beef onto my menu
This is apples and oranges, except at least both apples and oranges are edible.
Corn production in the US is ridiculous, but comparing these two things is incredibly asinine.
Except it’s not apples to apples. Corn doesn’t use city drinking water to irrigate corn, data centers do for cooling.
Food vs data centers, justifying poor water use with more poor water use
“Powered by emergent.ai”
Sureeeee Emergent. Get us looking at corn and not you for high water usage.
I’m picturing Emergent 100% made this post on its own.
An AI is telling us that AI doesn’t use a lot of water by comparison. Suspicious!
Why even list “indirect” though? What’s the indirect water use of anything we buy? What’s the indirect water use of taking a shower vs the water used in taking a shower? We don’t talk about indirect water use in ANY other context except for this one, because unless we do so it’s completely trivial.
Can’t wait for that cooked rare wagyu marbled data steak.
Bacon flavored data centers. Hmmm, tastes like solyent green. Opes. I mean…
Based on all of the “you can’t eat data centers” type comments, might be helpful to show within the green rectangle how much is for human consumption, livestock feed, and ethanol. And clarification about whether these corn gallons are the irrigated or both irrigated and non-irrigated corn.
Why would you need to use AI to make a graph with three data points?
Not beautiful, barely data.
Imagine how many data centers we could have, if we just got rid of all of this corn farming. WTF is that for anyway? Isn’t corn one of the shittiest commodities? On the other hand, data centers provide necessary resources for AI, the foundation of our economy!
40% of corn is grown to add to gasoline.
Incredible dumb because corn depletes the soil.
And corn feeds us, and provides fuel to an astonishing degree. What tangible benefit do the data centers provide?