When tipping at Christmas markets becomes almost compulsory | Anyone who consumes something in the USA knows that a tip of 15-20% is expected. Now this principle is also becoming increasingly widespread in Switzerland.
https://www.srf.ch/news/gesellschaft/cashless-fuer-gluehwein-wenn-das-trinkgeld-am-weihnachtsmarkt-fast-zum-zwang-wird
Posted by BezugssystemCH1903
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haha fuck that
No it’s not, fuck off. We don’t have to participate.
Yes, it’s just the restaurant/bar business. And it’s normal in the restaurant/bar business these days. Just press ” no tip” and that’s it. I don’t understand the drama. Nothing is “expected”.
American immigrant here and you can fuck off with that 15-20% nonsense.
“Tipping is a way to consciously show that you’ve had a particularly good experience, says Weber, or conversely, that it wasn’t so good.”
So if you don’t tip, apparently you don’t think you had ‘a good experience’? THEY ARE JUST PASSING YOU FREAKING GLUHWEIN. I consider it the same experience as if I go to a Kiosk and buy a bar of chocolate.
I went to a bar the other day that refuses to implement the tip automatic screen. I tipped them just because of that.
Lol! Nope. Tipping in the US comes from crap waitstaff hourly pay. E.g in Texas, it is like $3 for a server, so they rely on tips. I fail to see the justification for it in Switzerland. You already have service charge included. There is my ‘appreciation’.
“particularly good service”?
You poured me a preheated drink. I don’t give tips for something a vending machine can do too.
Generally seen i like to round up.
But… as soon i see a tipping prompt…. nope no longer rounding up. I pay the exact amount i have to not more.
The only thing that’s becoming compulsory for me is just pressing 0% tip every time
Hellls no
You know you are hitting a tourist trap when they openly ask for tips (hello Cafe du Soleil, Geneva).
In the USA where people make horrible minimum wages and it is built into the culture, sure (as much as I believe it should be the employer paying fairly).
Here, where people make decent liveable wages and have the safety net of the RAV?
Fuck no!
I make it a habit to leave one star Google reviews for any businesses that do this, citing this is why. A voluntary tip is kind but should never be a forced part of the payment flow here.
A fucking french working at Montreux Christmas market asked me to tip him when I filmed him make the shitty hot fondue I bought. Had a fun laugh at him, he didn’t laugh tho…
It’s a joke, but just click no tip. It’s not that hard.
Tipping culture has really bad origins. The workers here are paid enough. I have always tipped by rounding up or if there was profoundly good service I also tip without feeling obliged.
Do you think that the tipping culture is due to the machines coming from the USA? Maybe people don’t know how to disable them. Most of the people at bars and restaurants and markets even tell you to just hit ok and don’t expect a tip. I’m wondering if those machines are just preprogrammed like that..
Nope!!
Great service of course I’ll tip.
Meeting expectations, you get 0%, bye bye
No. As an American. No. No again. And no.
I refuse to tip
Even Americans are slowly stopping to tip.
Stop tipping. You don’t want this I promise you. In Toronto you get prompts for tips starting at 20% in a bakery. Like thanks for putting my bread in a bag?
Well in CH with very good wages and therefore high price mostly tipping should not be done imho.
yeah sure and soon Mr. Trump will be our president or what?
Never tip. You are just propagating this idiocy from the USA. Never. Tip.Â
The seller are free to set the price. The employee is free to negotiate a better wage. Never let employers directly (rather than indirectly) offload paying employees to you.Â
Nothing you can do to prevent me from tipping 0%.
Do not tip. They don’t appreciate you for it they just think they successfully pressured you. Stop US decadent culture from destroying our honest country.
I stopped tipping entirely in all circumstances for this bullshit
pay your workers
if you need to raise prices for that, which I doubt, but if necessary that’s ok. I want to see the sticker price and pay that peoples wages aren’t charity.
Just don’t tip. It works like a charm.
Easy, if its a verein that gives out something they get a tip, everyone else not
Where has this become true? I do not see it.
Bullshit. It’s not. Just click it away. No drama. Dont try to make a nothingburger tasty
just put 0, we are not americans? its the card reader companies putting it on the machines mostly, some vendors will push the “no tip” option for you
Simply put no. I always give a dirty look when they stick a tip in front of me. Swiss (unlike american) wait staff actually get a real wage.
It’s everywhere in Switzerland now. I was just at henrici today and the waitress had the gall to ask for a tip directly.Â
I happily made sure she saw me hit 0.Â
As a Swiss in the US – No. Nonono don’t do this. I call it the kindness tax. Where employees are paid less so that kind people can subsidize their salary out of guilt while the assholes give nothing and feel nothing. It’s horrible. People aren’t tipped based on their service, they’re tipped based on the character of the people they serve.
Once again for everyone: Stop tipping! There no need no etiquette!Â
Problem solved.
They really shouldn’t be talking about service. Service is a technical term here. There’s no real restaurant staff service otherwise. Its conceptually Inexistent. Compared to the customer service culture in say South East asian countries.
Seat, take order, bring food and bring the bill is bare minimum, default. Something more, I.e. not frowning at the customer when they ask to deviate from the default, warrants something extra.
Get drinks at the bar yourself, buy food at Christmas market, these aren’t things that require extra work on the sellers part.
Do I get discount because i was a good customer?
I usually tip (round up) at smaller markets. Mostly because stuff there is cheaper, and they let me t4y everything before I need to buy something, so I think it is fair to round up (especially because they usually round down when you buy meat or cheese at the market or throw in a left over piece of something)
I didn’t see that a lot. And most of the time the staff were an ashamed of that and pressed continue. I’ve no shame to put 0 when I feel “forced”. And everytime I pay with my card and want to tip I ask them if they will get all of it…
In the USA, if you are standing while ordering or paying, most people won’t tip. This doesn’t mean places don’t try to get you to tip, but people are getting sick of the grift.
The most egregious for me recently was a restaurant asking for gratuity on a stack of gift cards I purchased for teacher gifts.
A word of warning, don’t become the U.S. Look, the main problem with tipping is that it shifts financial responsibility away from employers and onto customers. Instead of being paid directly and reliably by the business that hires them, service workers become dependent on the unpredictable generosity of guests. This effectively turns part of their income into a form of charity rather than compensation for labor.
At the same time, tipping distorts the role of the employee. Their job is to provide good service, not to function as the business’s marketing department or revenue generator. Yet under a tipping system, workers are pressured to “attract” customers and perform emotional labor far beyond their job description simply to secure a livable wage.
The consequences become especially clear when looking at what has happened in the United States. Employers benefit enormously from tipping systems because they can legally pay substandard base wages. Over time, many businesses have used the profits generated by this model to lobby against increases in the minimum wage. This dynamic suppresses wages across the entire service sector, widens wealth inequality, and concentrates economic power in the hands of employers.
Every single time I get a device that asks me for a tip, I will choose “kein trikgeld”.
I don’t tip neither should anyone