“Demands”? What with a tariff situation, It sounds like whining.
lPuppyl on
Ugh as a Canadian im not interested in any way in making deals with the US right now. We ‘might’ consider it in 3 years but for now I think its better they forget about us for a while.
WisdomCow on
Provide an Epstein patsy?
Chyvalri on
Dairy’s a redline. It’s like our banking system – we get through global economic crises because we don’t make those mistakes. I’m willing to pay more for milk and eggs than I used to so that I don’t have to pay what my friends to the south pay.
tritiumlurkz on
Yeah, how about no. Canada’s good, yes CUSMA is important but not that important
Grogu999 on
We banned their alcohol in most provinces and are bankrupting some of their alcohol suppliers. Tourism sectors are hurting heavily in the US. What American business do we put out of business next?
BrgQun on
If we lose our dairy industry, what’s to keep Trump from flip flopping and putting tariffs back on? He broke the last agreement he signed.
Losing supply management is not something we can easily reverse.
And the idea that american tech and media companies have it hard up here lmao. They’re doing just fine.
CostGuilty8542 on
Say no to bullies
Spinningdown on
I don’t like how the U.S. government is treating us like an unsupervised 14 year woman*
punkasstubabitch on
The whole world knows Trump cannot be trusted. Amy “deal” he makes will be gone next week
SkinnedIt on
>The list includes further opening the Canadian dairy market to US farmers, and overhauling an online streaming law that the US says “discriminates” against American tech and media firms.
Get fucked on all of the above.
>Put US liquor back on Canadian shelves
Liquor is entirely under provincial purview. The federal goverment cannot make this promise, they can just try to strong-arm provinces to play ball. I also think that the the US vastly overestimates availability. Even on the shelves, there are a lot of people that won’t buy it anymore. They can expect to get some business back, but not all of it. Considerably less I would imagine.
>This is tied to a report released in April by the Office of the US Trade Representative, which accuses Alberta’s non-profit electrical grid operator of blocking Montana-based electricity producers from accessing the Alberta market.
As long as Alberta’s electrical grid is run by a non-profit, they shouldn’t let in any for-profit players.
GrunkTheOrc on
no deals until trump is out
WorldlinessProud on
The US has never fully honored the treaty anyway, like every other one they have signed.
entity2 on
Shock of shocks, everything must benefit america and nothing gained by Canada. Fuck off, america.
CanadianChocolate808 on
I feel like the majority of the US trade strategy is just to make Canada as shitty as the US, just so they can get American citizens to stop making comparisons
MilosEggs on
It didn’t matter what their demands are. A deal with Trump is utterly worthless.
Don’t do any deals with that lying pervert. Start dealing with the US after he’s gone
Mundane_Opening3831 on
The was the Trump Administration talks to Canada vs the way they talk to Russia. Pretty fucking clear what is going on.
frenzyguy on
Here is the deal lift off every tariff imposed, and AFTER IT might be considered.
Honestly, it might be rough on the edge a little bit right now, but this is the kick in the ass canada needed to open up more tonother market and have trade agreement aigned around the world. This is opening out market, canadian stand united more than ever (pretty much all quebecers too feel part of the gang now) it’s a wonderfull and beautiful time to be canadian.
SniffyTheBee on
If Canada rolled over and gave in to all the US demands, Trump would then turn around and say, “Qatar gave me a jet. Give me a jet.”
Cathulu_15 on
If they get rid of Softwood duties, Aluminum duties, and all other punitive measures against Canadian trade, maybe we can talk. Not a fan of losing the ability to feed ourselves to American mega corps using all kinds of chemicals. Prefer to reduce our dependency on US and have a healthy separation with benefits.
GarbonzoBeanSprout on
Pass 🥱
DMsDiablo on
Canada income, housing, job security etc has slowly started to tick up from these tarrifs unlike the US, Canada is better off without the US.
Commentator-X on
“Greer said the Americans want to see US liquor back on Canadian shelves if the USMCA were to be extended.”
And Canada wants an official internationally televised apology from Donald Trump regarding his 51st state comments.
Euclidisthebomb on
American posturing. It is a negotiating position that Carney has already indicated will not go anywhere.
Another redditor wrote a couple of days ago:
>This list of demands was not written with the expectation that Canada would comply. It was designed to be denied by Canada so that the US can then say that we aren’t cooperating in trade talks. They’re trying to make a bad guy out of us. My two cents of the situation at least.
I think this is a great take.
Especially with the assessment by our Prime Minister that a Trump goal is to make Canada dependent upon America, the hope they can break our dairy import restrictions, dump, put our dairy out of business and then control our food supply.
If Trump were to get his way and Canada drop tariffs on dairy a great deal of your cart would be American.
There is the occasional Canadian who shits all over supply side dairy management without acknowledging that US govt farm subsidies to dairy are stupendous. All Trump wants to be able to do is obtain access to our market so large US dairy can dump, drive our producers out of business, take over the market and then jack up prices.
Any Canadian politician who suggests we drop our dairy protections so that we can save a bit on milk, never mind the much lower quality, deserves to be kicked to the curb.
But Canada will not fall for this. I think as we get closer to the mid terms Trump’s team will get more strident in their attacks on Canada in order to attempt to pry out a “win” to assist their election goals. So we in Canada have to stay strong!
I personally feel while we should negotiate in good faith we are best not to commit to anything until after the midterms. And never surrender our food security just so we can save 50 cents in return for some lower quality American dairy imports.
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“Demands”? What with a tariff situation, It sounds like whining.
Ugh as a Canadian im not interested in any way in making deals with the US right now. We ‘might’ consider it in 3 years but for now I think its better they forget about us for a while.
Provide an Epstein patsy?
Dairy’s a redline. It’s like our banking system – we get through global economic crises because we don’t make those mistakes. I’m willing to pay more for milk and eggs than I used to so that I don’t have to pay what my friends to the south pay.
Yeah, how about no. Canada’s good, yes CUSMA is important but not that important
We banned their alcohol in most provinces and are bankrupting some of their alcohol suppliers. Tourism sectors are hurting heavily in the US. What American business do we put out of business next?
If we lose our dairy industry, what’s to keep Trump from flip flopping and putting tariffs back on? He broke the last agreement he signed.
Losing supply management is not something we can easily reverse.
And the idea that american tech and media companies have it hard up here lmao. They’re doing just fine.
Say no to bullies
I don’t like how the U.S. government is treating us like an unsupervised 14 year woman*
The whole world knows Trump cannot be trusted. Amy “deal” he makes will be gone next week
>The list includes further opening the Canadian dairy market to US farmers, and overhauling an online streaming law that the US says “discriminates” against American tech and media firms.
Get fucked on all of the above.
>Put US liquor back on Canadian shelves
Liquor is entirely under provincial purview. The federal goverment cannot make this promise, they can just try to strong-arm provinces to play ball. I also think that the the US vastly overestimates availability. Even on the shelves, there are a lot of people that won’t buy it anymore. They can expect to get some business back, but not all of it. Considerably less I would imagine.
>This is tied to a report released in April by the Office of the US Trade Representative, which accuses Alberta’s non-profit electrical grid operator of blocking Montana-based electricity producers from accessing the Alberta market.
As long as Alberta’s electrical grid is run by a non-profit, they shouldn’t let in any for-profit players.
no deals until trump is out
The US has never fully honored the treaty anyway, like every other one they have signed.
Shock of shocks, everything must benefit america and nothing gained by Canada. Fuck off, america.
I feel like the majority of the US trade strategy is just to make Canada as shitty as the US, just so they can get American citizens to stop making comparisons
It didn’t matter what their demands are. A deal with Trump is utterly worthless.
Don’t do any deals with that lying pervert. Start dealing with the US after he’s gone
The was the Trump Administration talks to Canada vs the way they talk to Russia. Pretty fucking clear what is going on.
Here is the deal lift off every tariff imposed, and AFTER IT might be considered.
Honestly, it might be rough on the edge a little bit right now, but this is the kick in the ass canada needed to open up more tonother market and have trade agreement aigned around the world. This is opening out market, canadian stand united more than ever (pretty much all quebecers too feel part of the gang now) it’s a wonderfull and beautiful time to be canadian.
If Canada rolled over and gave in to all the US demands, Trump would then turn around and say, “Qatar gave me a jet. Give me a jet.”
If they get rid of Softwood duties, Aluminum duties, and all other punitive measures against Canadian trade, maybe we can talk. Not a fan of losing the ability to feed ourselves to American mega corps using all kinds of chemicals. Prefer to reduce our dependency on US and have a healthy separation with benefits.
Pass 🥱
Canada income, housing, job security etc has slowly started to tick up from these tarrifs unlike the US, Canada is better off without the US.
“Greer said the Americans want to see US liquor back on Canadian shelves if the USMCA were to be extended.”
And Canada wants an official internationally televised apology from Donald Trump regarding his 51st state comments.
American posturing. It is a negotiating position that Carney has already indicated will not go anywhere.
Another redditor wrote a couple of days ago:
>This list of demands was not written with the expectation that Canada would comply. It was designed to be denied by Canada so that the US can then say that we aren’t cooperating in trade talks. They’re trying to make a bad guy out of us. My two cents of the situation at least.
I think this is a great take.
Especially with the assessment by our Prime Minister that a Trump goal is to make Canada dependent upon America, the hope they can break our dairy import restrictions, dump, put our dairy out of business and then control our food supply.
If Trump were to get his way and Canada drop tariffs on dairy a great deal of your cart would be American.
There is the occasional Canadian who shits all over supply side dairy management without acknowledging that US govt farm subsidies to dairy are stupendous. All Trump wants to be able to do is obtain access to our market so large US dairy can dump, drive our producers out of business, take over the market and then jack up prices.
Any Canadian politician who suggests we drop our dairy protections so that we can save a bit on milk, never mind the much lower quality, deserves to be kicked to the curb.
But Canada will not fall for this. I think as we get closer to the mid terms Trump’s team will get more strident in their attacks on Canada in order to attempt to pry out a “win” to assist their election goals. So we in Canada have to stay strong!
I personally feel while we should negotiate in good faith we are best not to commit to anything until after the midterms. And never surrender our food security just so we can save 50 cents in return for some lower quality American dairy imports.