That’s actually one of my all-time favourite surf metal bands!
ithinkitslupis on
Probably a losing argument. She’s promoting her “ethically” trained AI company.
The people who care about AI generating creative content don’t just care about it stealing copyrighted work, that’s just one facet of it.
They usually also care about it parasitically borrowing human creativity in general and devaluing it, and further funneling proceeds up the chain to already rich people. If you manage to train a performant model on non-copyright work all those other issues remain.
Standard-Vehicle-557 on
Tales from the D list
TheInfinityGauntlet on
It has an ethics problem but you started an AI movie company anyway, I’m sure you’ll be the one to fix it and not just make slop in the hopes of easy money!
KennyDROmega on
And it won’t change, because we’ve got a President who says that expecting AI companies to pay for training data just can’t be done, wouldn’t be prudent.
ThePensiveE on
Billionaires can’t commit crimes silly!
a_sliceoflife on
She’s right. The voices against the theft of intellectual property are not strong enough. More people need to speak against it. I don’t understand how the things that people are doing with AI, especially in the art sector (AI art, AI covers etc.), are even legal.
DJMagicHandz on
She’s still promoting the use of AI
amancalleddrake on
It’s like when Romania’s PM said to Bill Gates that their whole country’s IT ecosystem runs on pirated Microsoft.It’s hard to bat for copyrights, if you actually believe that ignoring it, can change the world.
quick_Ag on
What’s up with those little Bo peep shoulders?
Andreas1120 on
Has there even been a legal decision as to using data for training is a copyright violation?
outerproduct on
There is an ethics problem because when people do it, they get fined or go to jail. When mega corporations do it, it’s a whoopsie daisy, and nothing happens.
ChangingHats on
The entire world has been devaluing IT work since inception. The shoe is just on the other foot now.
kooldarkplace on
Didn’t know she was an authority on the subject
MrWhitewalls206 on
Why she dress like Pennywise?
Street_Grab4236 on
YetYouParticipateinSocietymeme.jpg
TheMillionthSteve on
Super kosher copacetic expialidocious
ram_ok on
Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick
New_Quantity3011 on
Great now I have “superkoshercopaceticexpialadocious” stuck in my head
anarkyinducer on
It will lead to a lost decade or century in terms of human ingenuity. People will feel far less compelled to generate creative output if it just gets gobbled up and regurgitated. Eventually it gets either regulated or abandoned, but before then, yikes.
fullcREDDIT on
I like Natasha Leone, but I have no empathy for a successful Hollywood person trying to act like 1.) they are morally superior and 2.) they are being robbed by AI.
The writers and actors and producers who use AI are already better than those who don’t, just by virtue of how powerful the tool is.
People like Natasha who feel they are above using AI are just filled with too much ego to adapt! Stop acting like art is so sacred that AI can’t help you.
Thelk641 on
“AI has an ethic…”
I’ll stop you there, it doesn’t.
Skyrmir on
An LLM can’t have ethics. It’s a probability machine based on the input given. If you give it unethical input, the output is unethical.
It’s a good thing we can’t actually create a real AI right now. It would be getting partial lobotomies on a daily basis.
Freds1765 on
She looks like she’s about to OD on Ozempic
PigEconomy on
It is interesting isn’t it. A few decades ago, people would rage if an app or even the operating system started “phoning home” and sending information or requesting updates without your knowledge. It was commonly labeled as malware. Now, every phone and OS is sending every keystroke, every tap you make in a POST request, that includes metadata about your LAN, wifi, and amazingly precise longitude and latitude. Every single keystroke. And 99% of users don’t even have a clue. It’s just too technical for them. Another .5% do know, but they don’t care. We used to call such things keystroke loggers, now it’s a modern feature of all OS’s and phones “to make them better”
So, the interesting comparison of that devolving of sanity to AI, is that for decades millions upon millions of people wrote books, created movies, made paintings, beautiful art, and wrote trillions of lines of code and they shared those with people to teach others or they sold those things to support their families. And so over decades, IF greedy and unethical people tried to take other peoples livelihoods, if they copied and sold those copies, lawsuits were quick to follow. Take companies like Disney as an example. If you tried to copy their productions, they’d have teams of lawyers on you. Similarly, even small businesses and independent innovators had some level of protection. People couldn’t just steal and copy… well, copyrighted works. And sophisticated systems were invented to actually protect content creators. We even have a government patent office and copyright laws. And so that is indeed how things worked till up to a couple years ago. I mean people still stole other’s creations, the rich still exploited people, but at least it was known, there were supposed to be guards in place, and if you had the resources, you could protect your livelihood, support your family, and it sorta just worked out largely so that lots of people, millions of people were inspired to innovate, create, design, etc.
And then, suddenly about 2 years ago, it became perfectly acceptable for billionaires (soon trillionaires) to take everyone’s stuff, stuff created over generations, stuff created right now, stuff you are innovating (typing on your local computer or drawing or painting) RIGHT NOW, and use it to train their machines, claim ownership, bottle it up, and then rent it back to everyone else, while retaining 100% insight into every venture of everyone else who uses those services or publishes anything in any industry… it all gets sucked up by the multibillionaires to train their machines, claim ownership of the extrapolations, and sell it to everyone.
Make no mistake, AI is amazing. But, like the rich have recently shifted to saying, most of us are going to get put through the woodchipper in order to give rise to trillionaires. Maybe it’ll be a good thing, but clearly, right now, at this phase of it all. It’s a very, very, very bad thing for millions. I say this as I’ve observed so many more join me. 2 years unemployed here. No end in sight. All industries, all professions, all futures for everyone are going to be worse for a very long time… expect for trillionaires. They’ll have a it good.
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Anyone kind enough to translate that quote?
>‘super kosher copacetic
That’s actually one of my all-time favourite surf metal bands!
Probably a losing argument. She’s promoting her “ethically” trained AI company.
The people who care about AI generating creative content don’t just care about it stealing copyrighted work, that’s just one facet of it.
They usually also care about it parasitically borrowing human creativity in general and devaluing it, and further funneling proceeds up the chain to already rich people. If you manage to train a performant model on non-copyright work all those other issues remain.
Tales from the D list
It has an ethics problem but you started an AI movie company anyway, I’m sure you’ll be the one to fix it and not just make slop in the hopes of easy money!
And it won’t change, because we’ve got a President who says that expecting AI companies to pay for training data just can’t be done, wouldn’t be prudent.
Billionaires can’t commit crimes silly!
She’s right. The voices against the theft of intellectual property are not strong enough. More people need to speak against it. I don’t understand how the things that people are doing with AI, especially in the art sector (AI art, AI covers etc.), are even legal.
She’s still promoting the use of AI
It’s like when Romania’s PM said to Bill Gates that their whole country’s IT ecosystem runs on pirated Microsoft.It’s hard to bat for copyrights, if you actually believe that ignoring it, can change the world.
What’s up with those little Bo peep shoulders?
Has there even been a legal decision as to using data for training is a copyright violation?
There is an ethics problem because when people do it, they get fined or go to jail. When mega corporations do it, it’s a whoopsie daisy, and nothing happens.
The entire world has been devaluing IT work since inception. The shoe is just on the other foot now.
Didn’t know she was an authority on the subject
Why she dress like Pennywise?
YetYouParticipateinSocietymeme.jpg
Super kosher copacetic expialidocious
Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick
Great now I have “superkoshercopaceticexpialadocious” stuck in my head
It will lead to a lost decade or century in terms of human ingenuity. People will feel far less compelled to generate creative output if it just gets gobbled up and regurgitated. Eventually it gets either regulated or abandoned, but before then, yikes.
I like Natasha Leone, but I have no empathy for a successful Hollywood person trying to act like 1.) they are morally superior and 2.) they are being robbed by AI.
The writers and actors and producers who use AI are already better than those who don’t, just by virtue of how powerful the tool is.
People like Natasha who feel they are above using AI are just filled with too much ego to adapt! Stop acting like art is so sacred that AI can’t help you.
“AI has an ethic…”
I’ll stop you there, it doesn’t.
An LLM can’t have ethics. It’s a probability machine based on the input given. If you give it unethical input, the output is unethical.
It’s a good thing we can’t actually create a real AI right now. It would be getting partial lobotomies on a daily basis.
She looks like she’s about to OD on Ozempic
It is interesting isn’t it. A few decades ago, people would rage if an app or even the operating system started “phoning home” and sending information or requesting updates without your knowledge. It was commonly labeled as malware. Now, every phone and OS is sending every keystroke, every tap you make in a POST request, that includes metadata about your LAN, wifi, and amazingly precise longitude and latitude. Every single keystroke. And 99% of users don’t even have a clue. It’s just too technical for them. Another .5% do know, but they don’t care. We used to call such things keystroke loggers, now it’s a modern feature of all OS’s and phones “to make them better”
So, the interesting comparison of that devolving of sanity to AI, is that for decades millions upon millions of people wrote books, created movies, made paintings, beautiful art, and wrote trillions of lines of code and they shared those with people to teach others or they sold those things to support their families. And so over decades, IF greedy and unethical people tried to take other peoples livelihoods, if they copied and sold those copies, lawsuits were quick to follow. Take companies like Disney as an example. If you tried to copy their productions, they’d have teams of lawyers on you. Similarly, even small businesses and independent innovators had some level of protection. People couldn’t just steal and copy… well, copyrighted works. And sophisticated systems were invented to actually protect content creators. We even have a government patent office and copyright laws. And so that is indeed how things worked till up to a couple years ago. I mean people still stole other’s creations, the rich still exploited people, but at least it was known, there were supposed to be guards in place, and if you had the resources, you could protect your livelihood, support your family, and it sorta just worked out largely so that lots of people, millions of people were inspired to innovate, create, design, etc.
And then, suddenly about 2 years ago, it became perfectly acceptable for billionaires (soon trillionaires) to take everyone’s stuff, stuff created over generations, stuff created right now, stuff you are innovating (typing on your local computer or drawing or painting) RIGHT NOW, and use it to train their machines, claim ownership, bottle it up, and then rent it back to everyone else, while retaining 100% insight into every venture of everyone else who uses those services or publishes anything in any industry… it all gets sucked up by the multibillionaires to train their machines, claim ownership of the extrapolations, and sell it to everyone.
Make no mistake, AI is amazing. But, like the rich have recently shifted to saying, most of us are going to get put through the woodchipper in order to give rise to trillionaires. Maybe it’ll be a good thing, but clearly, right now, at this phase of it all. It’s a very, very, very bad thing for millions. I say this as I’ve observed so many more join me. 2 years unemployed here. No end in sight. All industries, all professions, all futures for everyone are going to be worse for a very long time… expect for trillionaires. They’ll have a it good.