it’s a scheme to steal taxpayer money, nothing else.
ShinzonFluff on
The video is a bunch of pointless advertising at the beginning and in my opinion this is a bad thing to do.
– Waste of resources.
– Cooling is still an issue
– And its not secure, more things could go wrong (Debris in Orbit could cause a problem with starlink satellites
– ECC-Ram is somewhat resistant against bitflips but I don’t think that this will be enough at this altitude, not with currently availible GPU/CPU/RAM, which makes this a lot more expansive
An underwater-datacenter sounds like a better choise.
jeroen79 on
could actually work, good solar power and cold up there, only cost of getting that mass up there might make it to expansive
rainmouse on
Computers run hot. These fools think space is really cold, but there is nowhere for the heat to go.
peterabbit456 on
Short term, this does not make sense, but in the long term (and with Moore’s law that might come sooner than most people think) the computing power needed will surpass what can practically be generated on Earth, without covering every desert on the planet in solar panels. Perhaps it will be in 20 years, or 40, but if AI is still making money in 20 or 40 years, it will move computing into space and manufacturing onto the Moon, just to save the Earth from environmental disaster.
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SBR404 on
This is his video from one year ago, where he sounds less optimistic:
I think the problem is the market relies more heavily on “hype” than it does “results” when it comes to short term investments.
There have been many bogus hyped projects that utilize pretty CG promos. We have multiple generations of people raised on hyperbole in media to the point that it is normalized.
People hate overly complex explanations on what is possible and what is probable. It is easier to generate hype and investment capital by making wild promises. Like Elon Musk saying we would have manned Mars missions in 2023/2024 and a Mars base with a 1 million population by 2050.
In reality Mars has pretty much no protection from radiation and the soil is toxic, let alone the long dangerous journey to Mars or countless other issues.
Anyone remember the “space hotel”?
We already have plenty of scientific data on what is possible yet it gets ignored and millions to billions get invested into projects that will obviously fail.
People like the spectacle and news articles promote the stuff that gets views.
This is the same reason why published research with “negative results” often get ignored even when the data could be valuable.
Long_comment_san on
Somebody who had 9 years in school can explain why it’s a bad idea yet people need people with 10 degrees for same thing. Wild.
nic_haflinger on
People should read the Google white paper for their Project Suncatcher instead of just spouting nonsense as to the impossibility of this concept.
IndividualSkill3432 on
The Sun chucks out a huge amount of energy. Its around 1361Wm^(-2) at the top of the atmosphere on the equator.
You heat up very quickly. I mean its the reason the planet is not a frozen wasteland. Near us, space is hot not cold.
nwbrown on
The answer is they are predicting advancements in computing which would make cooling unnecessary.
Which may be sci-fi right now but certainly not physically impossible.
p1971 on
What jurisdiction is the data deemed to be held in ?
launch location, company location … ?
sounds like Elon is trying to work around pesky government protections on user data
Decronym on
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
|——-|———|—|
|[CoG](/r/Space/comments/1pstr8y/stub/nvcbzys “Last usage”)|Center of Gravity (see CoM)|
|CoM|Center of Mass|
|[LEO](/r/Space/comments/1pstr8y/stub/nvcnyaf “Last usage”)|Low Earth Orbit (180-2000km)|
| |Law Enforcement Officer (most often mentioned during transport operations)|
|[SSO](/r/Space/comments/1pstr8y/stub/nvc9iun “Last usage”)|Sun-Synchronous Orbit|
|Jargon|Definition|
|——-|———|—|
|[Raptor](/r/Space/comments/1pstr8y/stub/nvcpn3s “Last usage”)|[Methane-fueled rocket engine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raptor_(rocket_engine_family)) under development by SpaceX|
|[Starlink](/r/Space/comments/1pstr8y/stub/nvcpvqt “Last usage”)|SpaceX’s world-wide satellite broadband constellation|
Decronym is now also available on Lemmy! Requests for support and new installations should be directed to the Contact address below.
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it’s a scheme to steal taxpayer money, nothing else.
The video is a bunch of pointless advertising at the beginning and in my opinion this is a bad thing to do.
– Waste of resources.
– Cooling is still an issue
– And its not secure, more things could go wrong (Debris in Orbit could cause a problem with starlink satellites
– ECC-Ram is somewhat resistant against bitflips but I don’t think that this will be enough at this altitude, not with currently availible GPU/CPU/RAM, which makes this a lot more expansive
An underwater-datacenter sounds like a better choise.
could actually work, good solar power and cold up there, only cost of getting that mass up there might make it to expansive
Computers run hot. These fools think space is really cold, but there is nowhere for the heat to go.
Short term, this does not make sense, but in the long term (and with Moore’s law that might come sooner than most people think) the computing power needed will surpass what can practically be generated on Earth, without covering every desert on the planet in solar panels. Perhaps it will be in 20 years, or 40, but if AI is still making money in 20 or 40 years, it will move computing into space and manufacturing onto the Moon, just to save the Earth from environmental disaster.
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This is his video from one year ago, where he sounds less optimistic:
https://youtu.be/d-YcVLq98Ew
I think the problem is the market relies more heavily on “hype” than it does “results” when it comes to short term investments.
There have been many bogus hyped projects that utilize pretty CG promos. We have multiple generations of people raised on hyperbole in media to the point that it is normalized.
People hate overly complex explanations on what is possible and what is probable. It is easier to generate hype and investment capital by making wild promises. Like Elon Musk saying we would have manned Mars missions in 2023/2024 and a Mars base with a 1 million population by 2050.
In reality Mars has pretty much no protection from radiation and the soil is toxic, let alone the long dangerous journey to Mars or countless other issues.
Anyone remember the “space hotel”?
We already have plenty of scientific data on what is possible yet it gets ignored and millions to billions get invested into projects that will obviously fail.
People like the spectacle and news articles promote the stuff that gets views.
This is the same reason why published research with “negative results” often get ignored even when the data could be valuable.
Somebody who had 9 years in school can explain why it’s a bad idea yet people need people with 10 degrees for same thing. Wild.
People should read the Google white paper for their Project Suncatcher instead of just spouting nonsense as to the impossibility of this concept.
The Sun chucks out a huge amount of energy. Its around 1361Wm^(-2) at the top of the atmosphere on the equator.
You heat up very quickly. I mean its the reason the planet is not a frozen wasteland. Near us, space is hot not cold.
The answer is they are predicting advancements in computing which would make cooling unnecessary.
Which may be sci-fi right now but certainly not physically impossible.
What jurisdiction is the data deemed to be held in ?
launch location, company location … ?
sounds like Elon is trying to work around pesky government protections on user data
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
|——-|———|—|
|[CoG](/r/Space/comments/1pstr8y/stub/nvcbzys “Last usage”)|Center of Gravity (see CoM)|
|CoM|Center of Mass|
|[LEO](/r/Space/comments/1pstr8y/stub/nvcnyaf “Last usage”)|Low Earth Orbit (180-2000km)|
| |Law Enforcement Officer (most often mentioned during transport operations)|
|[SSO](/r/Space/comments/1pstr8y/stub/nvc9iun “Last usage”)|Sun-Synchronous Orbit|
|Jargon|Definition|
|——-|———|—|
|[Raptor](/r/Space/comments/1pstr8y/stub/nvcpn3s “Last usage”)|[Methane-fueled rocket engine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raptor_(rocket_engine_family)) under development by SpaceX|
|[Starlink](/r/Space/comments/1pstr8y/stub/nvcpvqt “Last usage”)|SpaceX’s world-wide satellite broadband constellation|
Decronym is now also available on Lemmy! Requests for support and new installations should be directed to the Contact address below.
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How much would it cost to shield those from any solar flare / radiation burst ?
Only reason we should do this is in a doomsday scenario.