> Fed up, she attacked a boy on the bus, inviting others to join her.
DopamineSavant on
Hopefully the boys actually get locked up for this. No community service or other bullshit punishments.
the_bollo on
For those who didn’t read, she got expelled for striking a boy on the bus. This was before administrators were convinced that the boy had generated said images (he was sharing them on Snapchat so they were gone by the time admins got involved). The whole thing is still unfortunate for the victim, but it wasn’t some huge travesty of justice, the poor girl just jumped the gun and took to vigilante justice before fully establishing her accusations with the school admins.
Ok_Blacksmith1 on
Defend your honour. They’ll only stop when you fight back.
Getafix69 on
Sounds about right the amount of times I’ve gotten the flack when someone else starts something would need a calculator.
MariaValkyrie on
Hello lawsuit.
thebranbran on
South Park just did an episode on roughly this very same thing
paul_33 on
Unless she caused permanent damage I don’t understand the punishment. A suspension at most.
VestOfHolding on
If I’m reading the article correctly: A lot of the central events happened all within a day or so. From the principal hearing about the accusations and trying to verify if there was any truth to them (and not being able to find any proof of it that same day), to the school bus leaving to take the kids home at the end of the school day and the fight happening.
Given that, it sounds like it sucks, but hard to blame the school if things happened that relatively fast. It’s easy to say as we sit here months later and all the investigations have led to charges for the boys that this is wild, but I would certainly prefer my kid’s school to not proceed without more than an accusation in a similar situation.
Since it did end up being proven, I’m glad the boys are facing real charges.
Again, this assumes I’m understanding the timeline from the article correctly.
Smeeoh on
I really hope the parents sue the school admin. Holy fuck
sturdy-guacamole on
> of a 13-year-old girl and her friends, generated by artificial intelligence,
That’s like giga-crime, crime crime.
Laws haven’t caught up I guess. When I was in MS/HS you were told don’t take gross photos and especially don’t share them because that’s crime crime.
I don’t even know what umbrella AI generated images of shit like this fall under crime wise, or how the AI tools even allow for shit like this in the first place.
ETA from elsewhere in the thread:
> The 13 year old boys sharing/generating the pictures are currently charged
Good.
DanteTrd on
This is why I think Australia did good by banning under 16-year olds from using certain social media apps. I’m unsure if Snapchat is one of them, but sounds like it should be. Although I appreciate that Louisiana at least has some laws in place pertaining to the use of AI from the sounds of it
MartiniPhilosopher on
From the article:
>”At the disciplinary hearing, the principal refused to answer questions from the girl’s attorneys about what kind of school discipline the boy would face.”
The principal literally did the Skinner meme. Made up his mind that it was always the girl’s fault despite all of the evidence otherwise and refused, REFUSED, to admit a mistake.
I hope he and the school district gets *buried* in the upcoming lawsuit.
Lkgnyc on
love the chivalry. /S but really do love that gal for jumping over her seat & pummeling the little bastards & getting her fellow victims to join in. you go girl! I hope they get her some good therapy so she can grow up to be a powerful activist or whatever she wants to be. we need more humans like her! and WAY fewer little assholic good ole boys. keep your damn pedestals and assume the position.
raerae1991 on
I hope they sue the principal and school for not protecting her and I hope those boys see legal ramifications
hoffsta on
Real life South Park
GJRinstitute on
High end tech like AI tools are double edged swords. Adults must find a way to keep these high end technologies away from young teen kids (or at least regulated). They do not understand the consequences of misusing the tech.
Live-Collection3018 on
id be in jail if i was her father… the principle would be eating steak through a straw.
pepperoni7 on
Ai generated nudes ? Of underage girl? Isn’t that cp creation?
lavafish80 on
lawsuit incoming
joshiness on
There better be a big ass lawsuit and hammer that school district, the Principal, and the parents of the perpetrators. If this was my daughter there would be Hell to pay.
youngdub774 on
These apps should all be banned, they have no legitimate purpose other than violating body autonomy of non consenting people.
Upstairs-Thanks4193 on
I hope the parents file a civil suit against the school and all the boys involved
Cyberslasher on
>the district said in a statement that federal student privacy laws prohibit it from discussing individual students’ disciplinary records.
Except you have no issues talking about the girl’s disciplinary records and also saying it’s really her fault for being a girl and therefore known for “lying all the time” (quote from principal).
Guess boys will be boys, gotta protect their records or something, the girl’s records showing an expulsion make it easy to claim she’s just a liar and there is no child porn being spread. Makes sense for Louisiana.
Robtism on
I graduated in 2013. We had a site called anon in where people who post nudes of high school girls. They had the news at my school and everything. One of the girl was suspended for it. Crazy.
KindaStableGenius on
Society is not ready for the innumerable ways AI will fuck all of our lives up.
TheMasterChiefa on
Smells like a lawsuit.
Tr1pfire on
Expecting schools to do anything against bullies without fear of legal recourse. LOL.
OpinionatedNoodles on
There’s really two separate issues here.
The first is that if someone is spreading nudes of you, whether they were taken with consent or not, whether they are real or not, the fact that someone is intentionally and maliciously spreading nudes images of you without your consent is without a doubt a form of sexual harassment. In my opinion you are fully allowed to deal with that person. The fact that she got suspended is ridiculous.
The second issue is the existence of AI generated nudes themselves. This issue crosses a lot of intersections and we have barely begun to even approach the issue.
In this case you have underage men making an unconsenting nude image of an underage woman. If it was an adult man you could argue this counts as CP but since they are both children it probably won’t go that far and nor should it.
But you still have someone who intentionally created an unconsenting nude image of someone. Something should be done about that. It’s one thing when it’s fake nudes of public figures, most people would be able to figure out that Taylor Swift never did hardcore porn. But these are private citizens, people who don’t get the same benefit of the doubt. And fake nudes circulating could negatively affect their ability to get a job should their employer find or be purposely sent those images.
And you then have a problem of widespread non consensual porn spreading online in a manner that is hard to effectively police. If people start uploading en masse AI nudes of real people you effectively have entire libraries of revenge porn or even illegal pron (if the nudes are of underage women) on legitimate websites and that makes the ethical consumption of porn even more difficult.
We desperately need some kind regulation on this.
FemRevan64 on
Given that they literally shared child-pornography of her, I’m saying she was completely justified here.
PilotAdvanced on
Do not just read the comments here and nod in agreement. Read the article to understand just how much the school district screwed up here and how much they wrecked this girl’s life and high school experience.
reverendsteveii on
this country loves child sexual assault
Refurbished_Keyboard on
“”the girl’s attorney asked why the sheriff’s deputy didn’t check the phone of the boy the girls were accusing and why he was allowed on the same bus as the girl.
“Kids lie a lot,” responded Coriell, the principal. “They lie about all kinds of things.””
That’s…why you check the phone. You check to see if there is any relevance for the claims. Wtf world am I in?
Fuglypump on
The principal needs to be fired if she has not resigned already.
yeableskive on
Hey guys I’m starting to think we might need to regulate this AI thing
Lynda73 on
Such bullshit!
> The girls begged for help, first from a school guidance counselor and then from a sheriff’s deputy assigned to their school. But the images were shared on Snapchat, an app that deletes messages seconds after they’re viewed, and the adults couldn’t find them. The principal had doubts they even existed.
So this principal, Danielle Coriell, thought these girls lied? And this person is supposed to protect the kids at school?
mrvalane on
>“Kids lie a lot,” responded Coriell, the principal. “They lie about all kinds of things. They blow lots of things out of proportion on a daily basis. In 17 years, they do it all the time. So to my knowledge, at 2 o’clock when I checked again, there were no pictures.”
“Martin, the superintendent, countered: “Sometimes in life we can be both victims and perpetrators.”
I fucking hope the principal (Coriell) and the superintendent both lose their jobs for this. What the actual fuck?
Arcturion on
>The principal, Danielle Coriell, said an investigation came up cold that day as no student took responsibility.
>“Kids lie a lot,” responded Coriell, the principal. “They lie about all kinds of things. They blow lots of things out of proportion on a daily basis. In 17 years, they do it all the time. So to my knowledge, at 2 o’clock when I checked again, there were no pictures.”
Lets be blunt. The principal didn’t believe she would find the pictures. She didn’t want to find the pictures. Not finding the pictures would make her job easier and she could sweep everything under the rug.
Is it a surprise why she conveniently didn’t find any pictures, and didn’t investigate any further?
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What the actual fuck
This is disgusting and should be a bloody crime!
She got expelled for fighting
> Fed up, she attacked a boy on the bus, inviting others to join her.
Hopefully the boys actually get locked up for this. No community service or other bullshit punishments.
For those who didn’t read, she got expelled for striking a boy on the bus. This was before administrators were convinced that the boy had generated said images (he was sharing them on Snapchat so they were gone by the time admins got involved). The whole thing is still unfortunate for the victim, but it wasn’t some huge travesty of justice, the poor girl just jumped the gun and took to vigilante justice before fully establishing her accusations with the school admins.
Defend your honour. They’ll only stop when you fight back.
Sounds about right the amount of times I’ve gotten the flack when someone else starts something would need a calculator.
Hello lawsuit.
South Park just did an episode on roughly this very same thing
Unless she caused permanent damage I don’t understand the punishment. A suspension at most.
If I’m reading the article correctly: A lot of the central events happened all within a day or so. From the principal hearing about the accusations and trying to verify if there was any truth to them (and not being able to find any proof of it that same day), to the school bus leaving to take the kids home at the end of the school day and the fight happening.
Given that, it sounds like it sucks, but hard to blame the school if things happened that relatively fast. It’s easy to say as we sit here months later and all the investigations have led to charges for the boys that this is wild, but I would certainly prefer my kid’s school to not proceed without more than an accusation in a similar situation.
Since it did end up being proven, I’m glad the boys are facing real charges.
Again, this assumes I’m understanding the timeline from the article correctly.
I really hope the parents sue the school admin. Holy fuck
> of a 13-year-old girl and her friends, generated by artificial intelligence,
That’s like giga-crime, crime crime.
Laws haven’t caught up I guess. When I was in MS/HS you were told don’t take gross photos and especially don’t share them because that’s crime crime.
I don’t even know what umbrella AI generated images of shit like this fall under crime wise, or how the AI tools even allow for shit like this in the first place.
ETA from elsewhere in the thread:
> The 13 year old boys sharing/generating the pictures are currently charged
Good.
This is why I think Australia did good by banning under 16-year olds from using certain social media apps. I’m unsure if Snapchat is one of them, but sounds like it should be. Although I appreciate that Louisiana at least has some laws in place pertaining to the use of AI from the sounds of it
From the article:
>”At the disciplinary hearing, the principal refused to answer questions from the girl’s attorneys about what kind of school discipline the boy would face.”
The principal literally did the Skinner meme. Made up his mind that it was always the girl’s fault despite all of the evidence otherwise and refused, REFUSED, to admit a mistake.
I hope he and the school district gets *buried* in the upcoming lawsuit.
love the chivalry. /S but really do love that gal for jumping over her seat & pummeling the little bastards & getting her fellow victims to join in. you go girl! I hope they get her some good therapy so she can grow up to be a powerful activist or whatever she wants to be. we need more humans like her! and WAY fewer little assholic good ole boys. keep your damn pedestals and assume the position.
I hope they sue the principal and school for not protecting her and I hope those boys see legal ramifications
Real life South Park
High end tech like AI tools are double edged swords. Adults must find a way to keep these high end technologies away from young teen kids (or at least regulated). They do not understand the consequences of misusing the tech.
id be in jail if i was her father… the principle would be eating steak through a straw.
Ai generated nudes ? Of underage girl? Isn’t that cp creation?
lawsuit incoming
There better be a big ass lawsuit and hammer that school district, the Principal, and the parents of the perpetrators. If this was my daughter there would be Hell to pay.
These apps should all be banned, they have no legitimate purpose other than violating body autonomy of non consenting people.
I hope the parents file a civil suit against the school and all the boys involved
>the district said in a statement that federal student privacy laws prohibit it from discussing individual students’ disciplinary records.
Except you have no issues talking about the girl’s disciplinary records and also saying it’s really her fault for being a girl and therefore known for “lying all the time” (quote from principal).
Guess boys will be boys, gotta protect their records or something, the girl’s records showing an expulsion make it easy to claim she’s just a liar and there is no child porn being spread. Makes sense for Louisiana.
I graduated in 2013. We had a site called anon in where people who post nudes of high school girls. They had the news at my school and everything. One of the girl was suspended for it. Crazy.
Society is not ready for the innumerable ways AI will fuck all of our lives up.
Smells like a lawsuit.
Expecting schools to do anything against bullies without fear of legal recourse. LOL.
There’s really two separate issues here.
The first is that if someone is spreading nudes of you, whether they were taken with consent or not, whether they are real or not, the fact that someone is intentionally and maliciously spreading nudes images of you without your consent is without a doubt a form of sexual harassment. In my opinion you are fully allowed to deal with that person. The fact that she got suspended is ridiculous.
The second issue is the existence of AI generated nudes themselves. This issue crosses a lot of intersections and we have barely begun to even approach the issue.
In this case you have underage men making an unconsenting nude image of an underage woman. If it was an adult man you could argue this counts as CP but since they are both children it probably won’t go that far and nor should it.
But you still have someone who intentionally created an unconsenting nude image of someone. Something should be done about that. It’s one thing when it’s fake nudes of public figures, most people would be able to figure out that Taylor Swift never did hardcore porn. But these are private citizens, people who don’t get the same benefit of the doubt. And fake nudes circulating could negatively affect their ability to get a job should their employer find or be purposely sent those images.
And you then have a problem of widespread non consensual porn spreading online in a manner that is hard to effectively police. If people start uploading en masse AI nudes of real people you effectively have entire libraries of revenge porn or even illegal pron (if the nudes are of underage women) on legitimate websites and that makes the ethical consumption of porn even more difficult.
We desperately need some kind regulation on this.
Given that they literally shared child-pornography of her, I’m saying she was completely justified here.
Do not just read the comments here and nod in agreement. Read the article to understand just how much the school district screwed up here and how much they wrecked this girl’s life and high school experience.
this country loves child sexual assault
“”the girl’s attorney asked why the sheriff’s deputy didn’t check the phone of the boy the girls were accusing and why he was allowed on the same bus as the girl.
“Kids lie a lot,” responded Coriell, the principal. “They lie about all kinds of things.””
That’s…why you check the phone. You check to see if there is any relevance for the claims. Wtf world am I in?
The principal needs to be fired if she has not resigned already.
Hey guys I’m starting to think we might need to regulate this AI thing
Such bullshit!
> The girls begged for help, first from a school guidance counselor and then from a sheriff’s deputy assigned to their school. But the images were shared on Snapchat, an app that deletes messages seconds after they’re viewed, and the adults couldn’t find them. The principal had doubts they even existed.
So this principal, Danielle Coriell, thought these girls lied? And this person is supposed to protect the kids at school?
>“Kids lie a lot,” responded Coriell, the principal. “They lie about all kinds of things. They blow lots of things out of proportion on a daily basis. In 17 years, they do it all the time. So to my knowledge, at 2 o’clock when I checked again, there were no pictures.”
“Martin, the superintendent, countered: “Sometimes in life we can be both victims and perpetrators.”
I fucking hope the principal (Coriell) and the superintendent both lose their jobs for this. What the actual fuck?
>The principal, Danielle Coriell, said an investigation came up cold that day as no student took responsibility.
>“Kids lie a lot,” responded Coriell, the principal. “They lie about all kinds of things. They blow lots of things out of proportion on a daily basis. In 17 years, they do it all the time. So to my knowledge, at 2 o’clock when I checked again, there were no pictures.”
Lets be blunt. The principal didn’t believe she would find the pictures. She didn’t want to find the pictures. Not finding the pictures would make her job easier and she could sweep everything under the rug.
Is it a surprise why she conveniently didn’t find any pictures, and didn’t investigate any further?