Of course it’s doomed. It’s what the conservatives did.
South_Buy_3175 on
Damned either way.
He either deals with immigration and integration issues that get more prevalent each year or he ignores it entirely and lets Reform walk in on the next election.
callthesomnambulance on
He’ll never be right wing enough for potential Tory or reform voters so all his rightward shift has done is alienate traditional labour voters. I imagine the calculation is that many of them will still be forced to vote labour when the GE rolls round as the greens/lib Dems/your party won’t have a chance of winning the majority of Burroughs, but that seems like hell of a gamble given they may just decide to stay home rather than hold their noses and put an X besides Starmers ideologically confused project.
Important_Ruin on
Course it is.
Should instead be moving to the ‘left’ and tories more to centre, leave farage to be the right wing outsider, who should then be pinned with why do you want to remove the rights of the british people?, why do you vote against enhanced employment rights for the british people? Why do you think the national minimum wage is too high for the british public? Why do you have 10 jobs and are never really in clacton or in house of commons? Why dont you vote, and when you do why do you vote against bills to improve the lifes on working british people?
Annemon12 on
What’s doomed is European politics for next 20-30 years after idiots brought untold levels of immigration totally fucking up social cohesion. Back when it started I predicted in 10 years europe will turn sharp right and I was right.
I also predict that this turn to right is not done yet. In fact it is not even in middle of it because effects of recent migration are starting and whole thing will last for 20-30 years. Moreover with increasingly more right wing governments that huge amount of immigration will cause riots, more terrorism etc. as response to right wing reforms which will further push people toward right wing.
Right now in london there are about 30% brits left, rest are non natives. Some of other cities are also in low 40-50. At those rates immigrants will start to use their power to push their politics which will cause further decohesion with natives and even wider swings, riots etc.
It will eventually end with mass forced remigration. But that will happen maybe after 20-30 years when people will be just tired/pissed off that they will accept anything regardless of how inhumane it is.
jeanclaudebrowncloud on
Don’t try to be Reform to make Reform voters like you, because they will just vote Reform, and everyone who hates Reform will hate you too.
Hitching-galaxy on
He’s doomed because of the rich controlling the media and they do not care about what is right, only what they can control. It is pure corruption.
The amount of awfulness with Farage, for example – he gets no scrutiny whatsoever. He literally worked with a traitor for decades and made him head of reform wales. His girlfriend has been found guilty of embezzlement, and buys a house in cash in Clacton.
Labour MPs get hounded by the media constantly and consistently.
If this doesn’t get fixed, we will become pro Russian like USA government
kahnindustries on
OSA
ID Cards
Now talk of banning VPNs
I have voted Labour in every election, local and national, since 1999
Also this is a teaching union leader, where the members might be a bit more ‘redditor like’, I’d be interested to see what a blue collar union leader thinks.
Slight-Strategy-5619 on
Immigration is an issue and needs to be managed. It’s not right wing to address immigration issues. It an adult conversation that needs to be had.
Constant-Estate3065 on
Why does every headline have to have the word “warns” in it these days. Get a new word journalists ffs.
New-Doctor9300 on
This is tragic. Anyone who was going to vote Reform is not going to vote Labour.
How about actually doing something called “representing your voters interests” Starmer? Instead of further isolating them?
suspiciousoaks on
The man’s solution to every problem is to decide his party hasn’t alienated its voter base enough. It’s like watching a man whose house is on fire who insists on putting it out with gasoline.
Hot-Palpitation4888 on
Haha in fairness it’s better to do something over nothing surely?
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Of course it’s doomed. It’s what the conservatives did.
Damned either way.
He either deals with immigration and integration issues that get more prevalent each year or he ignores it entirely and lets Reform walk in on the next election.
He’ll never be right wing enough for potential Tory or reform voters so all his rightward shift has done is alienate traditional labour voters. I imagine the calculation is that many of them will still be forced to vote labour when the GE rolls round as the greens/lib Dems/your party won’t have a chance of winning the majority of Burroughs, but that seems like hell of a gamble given they may just decide to stay home rather than hold their noses and put an X besides Starmers ideologically confused project.
Course it is.
Should instead be moving to the ‘left’ and tories more to centre, leave farage to be the right wing outsider, who should then be pinned with why do you want to remove the rights of the british people?, why do you vote against enhanced employment rights for the british people? Why do you think the national minimum wage is too high for the british public? Why do you have 10 jobs and are never really in clacton or in house of commons? Why dont you vote, and when you do why do you vote against bills to improve the lifes on working british people?
What’s doomed is European politics for next 20-30 years after idiots brought untold levels of immigration totally fucking up social cohesion. Back when it started I predicted in 10 years europe will turn sharp right and I was right.
I also predict that this turn to right is not done yet. In fact it is not even in middle of it because effects of recent migration are starting and whole thing will last for 20-30 years. Moreover with increasingly more right wing governments that huge amount of immigration will cause riots, more terrorism etc. as response to right wing reforms which will further push people toward right wing.
Right now in london there are about 30% brits left, rest are non natives. Some of other cities are also in low 40-50. At those rates immigrants will start to use their power to push their politics which will cause further decohesion with natives and even wider swings, riots etc.
It will eventually end with mass forced remigration. But that will happen maybe after 20-30 years when people will be just tired/pissed off that they will accept anything regardless of how inhumane it is.
Don’t try to be Reform to make Reform voters like you, because they will just vote Reform, and everyone who hates Reform will hate you too.
He’s doomed because of the rich controlling the media and they do not care about what is right, only what they can control. It is pure corruption.
The amount of awfulness with Farage, for example – he gets no scrutiny whatsoever. He literally worked with a traitor for decades and made him head of reform wales. His girlfriend has been found guilty of embezzlement, and buys a house in cash in Clacton.
Labour MPs get hounded by the media constantly and consistently.
If this doesn’t get fixed, we will become pro Russian like USA government
OSA
ID Cards
Now talk of banning VPNs
I have voted Labour in every election, local and national, since 1999
I will never vote for them again. Karenazis
Scotland is perceived as being more relaxed about immigration than England, a [YouGov poll](https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/53721-how-do-scots-feel-about-the-major-political-issues-december-2025) this month said that the majority of Scottish people (53%) believe there has been too much immigration into Scotland in the last decade, with only 24% thinking it’s about right and 9% thinking it’s too low.
Also this is a teaching union leader, where the members might be a bit more ‘redditor like’, I’d be interested to see what a blue collar union leader thinks.
Immigration is an issue and needs to be managed. It’s not right wing to address immigration issues. It an adult conversation that needs to be had.
Why does every headline have to have the word “warns” in it these days. Get a new word journalists ffs.
This is tragic. Anyone who was going to vote Reform is not going to vote Labour.
How about actually doing something called “representing your voters interests” Starmer? Instead of further isolating them?
The man’s solution to every problem is to decide his party hasn’t alienated its voter base enough. It’s like watching a man whose house is on fire who insists on putting it out with gasoline.
Haha in fairness it’s better to do something over nothing surely?