I know, I know, it’s one quote of many available which was probably not even selected by the journalist but whatever exists as an editorial function over there but that didn’t stop my first reaction being:
Well, duh.
CatWorkAmazon on
Neutrality also means Switzerland has no true friends. Time to get off the fence and decide which side to be on!?
Progression28 on
Ich mein… recht hetter jo, und er macht gueti Pünkt.
Ich glaub eifach nid, dass es öppis bringt üsi Verteidigung ufs theoretische Maximum ufrüste. Klar wäremer denn besser ufgstellt, aber wenn eini vode Grosschräft findet sie bruched ez d‘Schwiiz, denn mues niemert s‘gfühl ha mer chöni mit voller Usrüstig degegehebe.
Mir wäred abgschnitte vo jeglicher Ussewelt und me wür üs eifach versuufe loh.
white-tealeaf on
I‘d think the public would be more open for spending if there hadn’t been multiple costly scandals under Süssli‘s watch.
The problem is there is no strategy in our politics towards russia but also towards a possible fascistification of europe. Without strategy a blanco-check for the military seems wasted. Especially when considering that money spent on military will not be spend on welfare/education etc. and thus leading to democratic decline in switzerland itself.
When dealing with higher-ups in the military it is clear that there must be a selection for toxic, quick-temperate, vengeful anti-intellectuals with a severe sexism problem. I truly believe that a fundamental restructuring of power in the military is needed to ever get to a point where switzerland could be defended
PurposeBudget1490 on
Im ernstfall wäre schwiz sowieso am arsch, die meiste fo eus wo im dienst sind oder ide reserve sind hätti absolut kei lust, wenn die meiste WK‘s henge und bier suffe sind🤣
Da bruchsh halt scho bruefssöldner
Dizzy_Break_2194 on
When even the swiss army general in chief is saying stuff about neutrality I really get the feeling that everyone at the top knows something is going on and they believe the public needs to be eased into a new reality
SpiritedInflation835 on
The definition of neutrality is like this, anyway:
“When we’re attacked, we gladly expect and accept help from our neighbors. But if they’re attacked, we’re not helping them.”
It would help a lot if our neutrality were at least credible.
In WW1, one government member tried to negotiate a separate peace between Russia and the German Empire, horrifying France, the Brits and the Americans.
In WW2, we were very lenient towards the Germans, but after Stalingrad, we did nothing to help the Allies.
In the Cold War, we joined the technology exports sanctions against the USSR.
Our Crypto AG sold encryption devices to enemies of the United States, allowing them to read their traffic.
We traded with Apartheid South Africa for “neutrality reasons”. The UN sanctioned that country.
Ill_Nobody_2726 on
Army Chief Suessli seems to feel like he is entitled to dictate the foreign policy of Switzerland. His only role is to train and organise the army.
mdapf on
Swiss are worried that being pro-russian may not save their asses.
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True, there is A LOT of money laundry behind it.
I know, I know, it’s one quote of many available which was probably not even selected by the journalist but whatever exists as an editorial function over there but that didn’t stop my first reaction being:
Well, duh.
Neutrality also means Switzerland has no true friends. Time to get off the fence and decide which side to be on!?
Ich mein… recht hetter jo, und er macht gueti Pünkt.
Ich glaub eifach nid, dass es öppis bringt üsi Verteidigung ufs theoretische Maximum ufrüste. Klar wäremer denn besser ufgstellt, aber wenn eini vode Grosschräft findet sie bruched ez d‘Schwiiz, denn mues niemert s‘gfühl ha mer chöni mit voller Usrüstig degegehebe.
Mir wäred abgschnitte vo jeglicher Ussewelt und me wür üs eifach versuufe loh.
I‘d think the public would be more open for spending if there hadn’t been multiple costly scandals under Süssli‘s watch.
The problem is there is no strategy in our politics towards russia but also towards a possible fascistification of europe. Without strategy a blanco-check for the military seems wasted. Especially when considering that money spent on military will not be spend on welfare/education etc. and thus leading to democratic decline in switzerland itself.
When dealing with higher-ups in the military it is clear that there must be a selection for toxic, quick-temperate, vengeful anti-intellectuals with a severe sexism problem. I truly believe that a fundamental restructuring of power in the military is needed to ever get to a point where switzerland could be defended
Im ernstfall wäre schwiz sowieso am arsch, die meiste fo eus wo im dienst sind oder ide reserve sind hätti absolut kei lust, wenn die meiste WK‘s henge und bier suffe sind🤣
Da bruchsh halt scho bruefssöldner
When even the swiss army general in chief is saying stuff about neutrality I really get the feeling that everyone at the top knows something is going on and they believe the public needs to be eased into a new reality
The definition of neutrality is like this, anyway:
“When we’re attacked, we gladly expect and accept help from our neighbors. But if they’re attacked, we’re not helping them.”
It would help a lot if our neutrality were at least credible.
In WW1, one government member tried to negotiate a separate peace between Russia and the German Empire, horrifying France, the Brits and the Americans.
In WW2, we were very lenient towards the Germans, but after Stalingrad, we did nothing to help the Allies.
In the Cold War, we joined the technology exports sanctions against the USSR.
Our Crypto AG sold encryption devices to enemies of the United States, allowing them to read their traffic.
We traded with Apartheid South Africa for “neutrality reasons”. The UN sanctioned that country.
Army Chief Suessli seems to feel like he is entitled to dictate the foreign policy of Switzerland. His only role is to train and organise the army.
Swiss are worried that being pro-russian may not save their asses.