I thought it was funny before Christmas when the government was saying they were going to consult with the young people who’d be affected to get their thoughts on a ban. They might as well not bother because it’ll be the exact same thing that happened in Australia, ~90% opposed but they’re just ignored anyway since they don’t know what they’re talking about.
oneeyedman72 on
Only if they ban over 65s. Social media in oldies (eg MAGA,) has done more harm to society than anything else in recent years.
tennereachway on
It sounds like a great idea in theory, the impact social media has had on teens is horrendous.
I’m not sure how you’d actually go about banning it for under 16s though, it seems all but unenforceable without completely removing anonymity from the Internet.
Babyindablender on
The parent in me screams yes, but I feel like it’s wrong, I think it’ll be a case where its just until your 16 then that entire generation onward will have a digital ID that is normalised and then we are slowly stripping freedom away for generations beyond.
Key_Duck_6293 on
I don’t really care what teens think in this regard, I just care whether the ban is effective in achieving its goals. Australia should have some short term indicators soon
Burger_Mc_Burgface on
as someone who is literally 16 I feel like banning social media is unreasonable as people would 100% find alternatives or some other way to do what they’re doing OR instead of this the alternative would be everyone getting into drugs and sex instead of social media.
Personally the pros of being able to communicate with people all over the world and make new friends along with the friends I still keep irl outweigh the potential cons with LOTS of different support avenues to go down if it negatively affects you. It’s people and their parents responsibility to keep you safe in the world, the government can only provide access to safety they can’t use the internet for you and locking social media is a cheap way out.
Also, most people would not be willing to verify in general adults included and it would definitely be a factor in killing people’s privacy overall.
But chat control is gonna do that anyways so I’m just expecting the worst eitherway.
kewthewer on
Sure. I don’t see why websites are ‘entitled’ to anything, being honest. Like Air BNB, Uber, etc. we have laws here, I don’t accept they need to be change or be broken, just cos someone made a website or app.
Why should we simply accept them laissez faire? Are they taking from society or providing any positive at all? Regulate it, if that’s not reasonable. Make them publishers with liability I say, tax the shite out of them too.
WolfOfWexford on
I think it should be banned in general tbh
im-a-guy-like-me on
Pushing them onto underground sites? Super well thought out. Top work by top men.
This is all just laying the groundwork for a fully monitored online presence. WON’T SOMEBODY PLEEEEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
blood_transfusion on
If they do ban social media for our youth, the government need to implement alternative ways to allow youths to spend their time. Facilities such has public indoor pools, gyms, more ACCESSIBLE libraries (not ones in the city that you have to take unreliable bus eireean for).
Seargentyates on
Next we’re going to consult with under 16’s on whether or not we should allow them to drink alcohol and drive.
Miserable_Cress_1678 on
Absolutely. It’s fucked. First the under 16s then the rest. With AI and Russia etc etc, we can’t afford to have such a confused, distracted apathetic and easily controlled society. It needs a complete overhaul
Eastern-Ant-4173 on
Or make parents responsible for what their children are doing online. Stop rewarding streamers who are having a negative impact on children? I don’t know, teach children from the earliest age to navigate the Internet safely so it’s less likely that they’ll become victimised?
Really, the only ban regarding tech I could get behind is a ban on boomers and tech illiterate people legislating how they think the Internet should work.
GlesgaBawbag on
Digital ID is a Tony Blair fetish. Constant surveillance.
It’s not about protecting kids. They could make a law that banned under 16s from owning smart phones but it’s not about the kids.
Outrageous_Blood_935 on
No, next question
A-Hind-D on
Should probably ban adults too from Facebook groups
dropthecoin on
Yes. Absolutely. Kids did fine for millennia without it and it’s utterly toxic now.
I’ll be all ears if someone can present a credible alternative that’s not the usual get out “eDUCaTiON” line
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I thought it was funny before Christmas when the government was saying they were going to consult with the young people who’d be affected to get their thoughts on a ban. They might as well not bother because it’ll be the exact same thing that happened in Australia, ~90% opposed but they’re just ignored anyway since they don’t know what they’re talking about.
Only if they ban over 65s. Social media in oldies (eg MAGA,) has done more harm to society than anything else in recent years.
It sounds like a great idea in theory, the impact social media has had on teens is horrendous.
I’m not sure how you’d actually go about banning it for under 16s though, it seems all but unenforceable without completely removing anonymity from the Internet.
The parent in me screams yes, but I feel like it’s wrong, I think it’ll be a case where its just until your 16 then that entire generation onward will have a digital ID that is normalised and then we are slowly stripping freedom away for generations beyond.
I don’t really care what teens think in this regard, I just care whether the ban is effective in achieving its goals. Australia should have some short term indicators soon
as someone who is literally 16 I feel like banning social media is unreasonable as people would 100% find alternatives or some other way to do what they’re doing OR instead of this the alternative would be everyone getting into drugs and sex instead of social media.
Personally the pros of being able to communicate with people all over the world and make new friends along with the friends I still keep irl outweigh the potential cons with LOTS of different support avenues to go down if it negatively affects you. It’s people and their parents responsibility to keep you safe in the world, the government can only provide access to safety they can’t use the internet for you and locking social media is a cheap way out.
Also, most people would not be willing to verify in general adults included and it would definitely be a factor in killing people’s privacy overall.
But chat control is gonna do that anyways so I’m just expecting the worst eitherway.
Sure. I don’t see why websites are ‘entitled’ to anything, being honest. Like Air BNB, Uber, etc. we have laws here, I don’t accept they need to be change or be broken, just cos someone made a website or app.
Why should we simply accept them laissez faire? Are they taking from society or providing any positive at all? Regulate it, if that’s not reasonable. Make them publishers with liability I say, tax the shite out of them too.
I think it should be banned in general tbh
Pushing them onto underground sites? Super well thought out. Top work by top men.
This is all just laying the groundwork for a fully monitored online presence. WON’T SOMEBODY PLEEEEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
If they do ban social media for our youth, the government need to implement alternative ways to allow youths to spend their time. Facilities such has public indoor pools, gyms, more ACCESSIBLE libraries (not ones in the city that you have to take unreliable bus eireean for).
Next we’re going to consult with under 16’s on whether or not we should allow them to drink alcohol and drive.
Absolutely. It’s fucked. First the under 16s then the rest. With AI and Russia etc etc, we can’t afford to have such a confused, distracted apathetic and easily controlled society. It needs a complete overhaul
Or make parents responsible for what their children are doing online. Stop rewarding streamers who are having a negative impact on children? I don’t know, teach children from the earliest age to navigate the Internet safely so it’s less likely that they’ll become victimised?
Really, the only ban regarding tech I could get behind is a ban on boomers and tech illiterate people legislating how they think the Internet should work.
Digital ID is a Tony Blair fetish. Constant surveillance.
It’s not about protecting kids. They could make a law that banned under 16s from owning smart phones but it’s not about the kids.
No, next question
Should probably ban adults too from Facebook groups
Yes. Absolutely. Kids did fine for millennia without it and it’s utterly toxic now.
I’ll be all ears if someone can present a credible alternative that’s not the usual get out “eDUCaTiON” line