> There have been anecdotal suggestions of courses where you’d go into a classroom, there’d be maybe two students there and a class of 100 on the roll,” Mr Lawless said
Anecdotal evidence?
Away_team42 on
Good to see a few more “Learing” centres getting done for fraud.
mrbuddymcbuddyface on
This has been going on for decades.
Driveby_Dogboy on
That’s racist…
LadWithDeadlyOpinion on
I used to work in a place like this. It was very dodgy in certain ways but they were actually quite strict with attendance.
YuriLR on
Companies are employing people without checking if they have hours in other places. Pretty much any English student that doesn’t come from a rich family to support someone in Ireland, which is an expensive country for most of the nationalities coming to English schools, is working multiple jobs and does more than 20 hours. That’s why most of them stick to Dublin, because it’s the only place where is possible (and not so hard), to get multiple jobs quickly and with a schedule that can fit with the English classes. Attendance is mandatory, at above 85%, but there are still some, very few nowadays, schools that sign you off if you never show up.
Some few companies employ the person above the 20 hours limit too, so the person just has a job and is doing 40hours/week in the company, this is not that rare. Never heard of a company getting punished for this.
Revenue is also not even cross referencing the paychecks they are getting to visa status. Right now the paychecks that show up in the revenue website don’t include hours, but the system could be easily changed for it to be mandatory information too. Besides overworking hours for people here legally, I know personally of people here illegally getting paid with paychecks sent to revenue and PRSI being collected etc, he first obtained a PPS while on an English school visa and came back years later through NI, company hired him without checking visa status (smaller companies are still sometimes doing this).
Another problem is people with permanent status (EU citizen, Stamp 4), creating justeat, ubereats, etc accounts using their passport and them renting this account out to someone here illegally or for people looking for extra hours above the 20 hours limit. It goes for about 40 euros a week each account in each app. The account owner never delivers anything ever, he just rent it out to someone else. Revenue caught some rare ones charging income tax owned to the account owner, but the only penalty was the tax, and these companies should be regulated to include more controls to avoid account rentals, they now have some random selfie checks but I heard people are finding out ways to defeat it.
How do I know so much? I’m Brazilian but hold two other EU passport and I dig deep in the Brazilian online communities in Ireland.
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As Lizzo would say, About Dam Time
> There have been anecdotal suggestions of courses where you’d go into a classroom, there’d be maybe two students there and a class of 100 on the roll,” Mr Lawless said
Anecdotal evidence?
Good to see a few more “Learing” centres getting done for fraud.
This has been going on for decades.
That’s racist…
I used to work in a place like this. It was very dodgy in certain ways but they were actually quite strict with attendance.
Companies are employing people without checking if they have hours in other places. Pretty much any English student that doesn’t come from a rich family to support someone in Ireland, which is an expensive country for most of the nationalities coming to English schools, is working multiple jobs and does more than 20 hours. That’s why most of them stick to Dublin, because it’s the only place where is possible (and not so hard), to get multiple jobs quickly and with a schedule that can fit with the English classes. Attendance is mandatory, at above 85%, but there are still some, very few nowadays, schools that sign you off if you never show up.
Some few companies employ the person above the 20 hours limit too, so the person just has a job and is doing 40hours/week in the company, this is not that rare. Never heard of a company getting punished for this.
Revenue is also not even cross referencing the paychecks they are getting to visa status. Right now the paychecks that show up in the revenue website don’t include hours, but the system could be easily changed for it to be mandatory information too. Besides overworking hours for people here legally, I know personally of people here illegally getting paid with paychecks sent to revenue and PRSI being collected etc, he first obtained a PPS while on an English school visa and came back years later through NI, company hired him without checking visa status (smaller companies are still sometimes doing this).
Another problem is people with permanent status (EU citizen, Stamp 4), creating justeat, ubereats, etc accounts using their passport and them renting this account out to someone here illegally or for people looking for extra hours above the 20 hours limit. It goes for about 40 euros a week each account in each app. The account owner never delivers anything ever, he just rent it out to someone else. Revenue caught some rare ones charging income tax owned to the account owner, but the only penalty was the tax, and these companies should be regulated to include more controls to avoid account rentals, they now have some random selfie checks but I heard people are finding out ways to defeat it.
How do I know so much? I’m Brazilian but hold two other EU passport and I dig deep in the Brazilian online communities in Ireland.