Kind of stupid though, if your parents were abroad when you were born then came back the following week, does that make you not British?
It’s that subjective it’s a little pointless.
NuPNua on
I wonder what the crossover is with people who voted for a foreign born PM in 2019 to get Brexit done?
NLFG on
Really strange that this is rising in an environment where large parts of the media are promoting borderline racist policy and politicians. I wonder why it’s happening.
RaymondBumcheese on
In case anyone was wondering why this is suddenly a thing, people seem to have just worked out that if you replace ‘race’ with ‘culture’ you can whine about anything and say all the quiet parts out loud.
AccomplishedAct5364 on
There are people who’ve been here for decades who don’t speak or read English, they stay in their monoculture that isn’t British and live a life that mimics their society back home.
What does it even mean to be British if it’s nothing more than a geo-tag to say you existed here for a little while and that’s all.
FoxDesigner2574 on
Some are born British, some achieve Britishness and some have Britishness thrust upon them.
(The last category is generally people who win a sporting event and are proudly hailed as British by the tabloids for the first time.)
StGuthlac2025 on
There is a shift occurring it seems and this is just the tip of the iceberg. I’ve been seeing a big rise online in ethnonationalists that are not at all afraid of espousing their views, especially in Gen Z
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knitscones on
So Farage is being deported as he is of immigrant descent?
no_fooling on
Na, what they mean is “born white”
We all know this
Fallcious on
I was born in Northern Ireland and can choose to be British or Irish. I now choose to be Irish if anyone asks.
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Monsterofthelough on
It seems a bit of a weird question to me. You’re British if you have citizenship, as far as I’m concerned, or arguably if you don’t have citizenship but you ‘feel British.’ The ‘shared values’ thing is just silly – I’m sure plenty of Germans (for example) have similar values to a lot of British people, but they’re still German.
ReligiousGhoul on
The fact the top comments here are the idiotic…
>interesting, didn’t realise ****insert famous person born to life-long British parents who happened to be abroad at the time of their birth**** isn’t actually British
are why this rhetoric is surging. You’re purposefully missing the point and then getting mad when the only people willing to have the conversation are being listened to.
Horror_Extension4355 on
Isnt it more a reaction to people’s perception that the system is being exploited and comes with various loopholes?
Funny-Associate-1265 on
Being English isn’t a skin suit, it means something.
Kiwirushh on
I think there should be a mandatory English test for everyone
unbelievablydull82 on
I was born to Irish parents in London in the 80s. I grew up being told I wasn’t English, and that I should go back to Ireland with the rest of my “terrorist” family. I always felt more Irish than English, but, as I grew up, the same racists would turn around and say that I’m not Irish, I’m English. The key thing I learnt is that you can’t base your experiences on idiots who want to control how you experience your life. If you identify as British, then that’s great, if you don’t, that’s fine too. It’s no one’s life but yours
360Saturn on
Who knew that when the media goes out of its way to normalise and legitimise racist views the number of people that might then ascribe to them would rise too.
“Born British” doesn’t mean anything. It’s a dogwhistle for being white and born here.
idontlikemondays321 on
I’ve always felt that it’s where a person spent most of their school years as this is a big part of what shapes you.
A 23 year old who moved here as a 7 year old seems more British to me than a 50 year old who moved here at 20.
iamezekiel1_14 on
Can we have a definition here please as despite not being born here (Canada), I came at such a young age (less than 5) I had to be given citizenship and have lived and worked and paid taxes here ever since. Am I not welcome now? For clarification as I think this is the likely kicker – I am white.
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Kind of stupid though, if your parents were abroad when you were born then came back the following week, does that make you not British?
It’s that subjective it’s a little pointless.
I wonder what the crossover is with people who voted for a foreign born PM in 2019 to get Brexit done?
Really strange that this is rising in an environment where large parts of the media are promoting borderline racist policy and politicians. I wonder why it’s happening.
In case anyone was wondering why this is suddenly a thing, people seem to have just worked out that if you replace ‘race’ with ‘culture’ you can whine about anything and say all the quiet parts out loud.
There are people who’ve been here for decades who don’t speak or read English, they stay in their monoculture that isn’t British and live a life that mimics their society back home.
What does it even mean to be British if it’s nothing more than a geo-tag to say you existed here for a little while and that’s all.
Some are born British, some achieve Britishness and some have Britishness thrust upon them.
(The last category is generally people who win a sporting event and are proudly hailed as British by the tabloids for the first time.)
There is a shift occurring it seems and this is just the tip of the iceberg. I’ve been seeing a big rise online in ethnonationalists that are not at all afraid of espousing their views, especially in Gen Z
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So Farage is being deported as he is of immigrant descent?
Na, what they mean is “born white”
We all know this
I was born in Northern Ireland and can choose to be British or Irish. I now choose to be Irish if anyone asks.
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It seems a bit of a weird question to me. You’re British if you have citizenship, as far as I’m concerned, or arguably if you don’t have citizenship but you ‘feel British.’ The ‘shared values’ thing is just silly – I’m sure plenty of Germans (for example) have similar values to a lot of British people, but they’re still German.
The fact the top comments here are the idiotic…
>interesting, didn’t realise ****insert famous person born to life-long British parents who happened to be abroad at the time of their birth**** isn’t actually British
are why this rhetoric is surging. You’re purposefully missing the point and then getting mad when the only people willing to have the conversation are being listened to.
Isnt it more a reaction to people’s perception that the system is being exploited and comes with various loopholes?
Being English isn’t a skin suit, it means something.
I think there should be a mandatory English test for everyone
I was born to Irish parents in London in the 80s. I grew up being told I wasn’t English, and that I should go back to Ireland with the rest of my “terrorist” family. I always felt more Irish than English, but, as I grew up, the same racists would turn around and say that I’m not Irish, I’m English. The key thing I learnt is that you can’t base your experiences on idiots who want to control how you experience your life. If you identify as British, then that’s great, if you don’t, that’s fine too. It’s no one’s life but yours
Who knew that when the media goes out of its way to normalise and legitimise racist views the number of people that might then ascribe to them would rise too.
“Born British” doesn’t mean anything. It’s a dogwhistle for being white and born here.
I’ve always felt that it’s where a person spent most of their school years as this is a big part of what shapes you.
A 23 year old who moved here as a 7 year old seems more British to me than a 50 year old who moved here at 20.
Can we have a definition here please as despite not being born here (Canada), I came at such a young age (less than 5) I had to be given citizenship and have lived and worked and paid taxes here ever since. Am I not welcome now? For clarification as I think this is the likely kicker – I am white.