Virtue-signalling? But the supposed problem according to them is that they are making decisions. Virtue-signalling is not actually taking action and just looking like you are.
So just a bunch of buzzwords to suit their agenda.
voltairesalias on
It’s like the “progressive” religion now. It’s actually kind of amazing just how religious we almost inherently are as a society. Even when the old religion fades we need a new one. So we used to do public prayers, cite the Christian God in our laws, during public presentations, in policy, etc. Now we just replaced that with land acknowledgements (half of whom are historically inaccurate or mythological), and even smudging and shit like that in public spaces.
None of this is progressive. It’s religious. Furthermore it actually actively incentivizes ethnic nationalism – which again, is not progressive.
AdAnxious8842 on
Actually, it’s not a bad article but then they have to do the “click bait” title which I assume is designed for their primary audience.
As to the meat of the article, there’s no “virtual signaling” but rather legislative decisions. Now, the rationale/reasoning behind the decisions is questionable, and that would be an interesting article for another time.
For this article, there are legal decisions driven by you know, the law. The courts are recognizing that the Crown has made commitments to Indigenous communities that they have not delivered (Feds and clean water, Feds/Provinces on education, etc). It’s taken decades but those roosters have come to roost. Some of the decisions have been accelerated by UNDRIP (the bogeyman for most the conservative press) and others like the Richmond title decision are final outcomes of a long drawn out legal process.
Anyways, what better for r/Canada to start off than with a good Indigenous rights rant.
Happy New Year!
DeanPoulter241 on
On a per capita land mass basis these land claims are the same as a single solitary person staking a claim to the entire bahamian island chain. I am fairly certain that claim would not stand the test of time.
Plus you have the 100’s of BILLIONS provided to the indigenous community over the decades. Look at what they have to show for it. No small wonder some in their community, kudos to them albeit too little too late, are demanding answers as to where it has all gone.
Yep, the whole church run school thing was pretty reprehensible, but show me any country that doesn’t have a blight on its history. I think we have said sorry enough times for that. Time to move on.
This whole reconciliation thing has gotten out of hand. You have to wonder what this country would look like if not for the efforts of everyone who migrated here over the last century. Nunavut? I know things could be better, however its not a perfect world is it.
OkRelationshipFish on
I was previously committed to being a treaty partner, acknowledging land, supporting government initiatives and funds and so on.
But I’ve soured over time. There’s no end to the demands for more. No meaningful idea of partnership. There’s no nuance to this new revisionist history based on shame. No end to the pretendian and “eastern Métis” phoneys looking to cash in.
Reconciliation looks to have been a scam all along.
Maximum_Error3083 on
If people can’t recognize and admit now that progressivism is a cancer on this country then they never will.
oli_Xtc on
I’m not ashamed to be born here in the 90’s. People need to get over it lol. We were ALL OF US not there a few hundred years ago. We are not the colonizer anymore. There’s no shame to have, or forgiveness to ask for the things our ancestors did in fucking 1700 or whatever. Stop that bullshit. Land as always been conquer over and over again in history and it will always be that way.
Did the first nation deserve better today ? Yeah absolutely we could do more for them to have better living conditions. Do we need to whip ourselves over and over again because Jacques Cartier landed here ? Nop.
talks_like_farts on
Canada’s approach to reconciliation is going to end pretty well for Indigenous people, if we’re being honest.
YourOverlords on
Empty lip service is insufferable nonsense.
toilet_for_shrek on
I just think it’s ironic that the liberals are pushing reconciliation, land acknowledgements, and decrying the evils of colonization when they themselves added more people to Canada **in five years** than all the colonists that came to Canada in the 18th and 19th centuries combined.
ValeriaTube on
We’re not at the end and it’s already very very bad. When societies go too far left, they die out. We need to bring it back to the center hard.
Birdybadass on
Reconciliation in Canada has created more racism towards indigenous people than any other Canadian government policy. Who would’ve thought that legislating a preferential class, from a criminal, wellfare, financial and cultural perspective would’ve lead to resentment by the other 90% of the citizenry? Honestly FN people want to be respected like anyone else, not have a bunch of liberal white people appropriate their cultural ceremonies and treat them like victims for all of eternity. And the folks that do want that treatment are only in it for the money.
thetruthiseeit on
Reconciliation is a two way street. Waiting for indigenous leaders to apologize to the taxpayer for the fraud and misuse of funds that has gone on over the years.
JauntyGiraffe on
I’m glad more people are recognizing this is stupid
TianZiGaming on
Canada is already spending more on FNs than the national defense budget now.
It’s hardly just virtue signaling.
Trick_Sandwich_7208 on
100 percent
AdNew9111 on
Bingo.
But at the bleeding hearts said otherwise lock and step with JT and his loser cronies
iimwint on
We don’t even reconcile. Lets stop the act.
My town has 15 church’s and 4 Catholic schools.
And then at the train station there is a wooden sign that says this property is on native land. And I’m pretty sure that’s just GO trains corporate agenda.
And that’s about as much as we care
DanisForisette on
NDPs coulda stepped in a filled the gap the libs and cons made and restore faith in Canadian society. But nope, they had to indulge in this virtues signalling BS
O00O0O00 on
We’ve given tribes enough. Hundreds of billions. We need to draw a line and say that’s it.
MrRook on
It’s not just virtue signalling if it’s following a royal proclamation, the Constitution, and Canadian legal precedent upheld by multiple Supreme Court rulings. Jesus…
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Virtue-signalling? But the supposed problem according to them is that they are making decisions. Virtue-signalling is not actually taking action and just looking like you are.
So just a bunch of buzzwords to suit their agenda.
It’s like the “progressive” religion now. It’s actually kind of amazing just how religious we almost inherently are as a society. Even when the old religion fades we need a new one. So we used to do public prayers, cite the Christian God in our laws, during public presentations, in policy, etc. Now we just replaced that with land acknowledgements (half of whom are historically inaccurate or mythological), and even smudging and shit like that in public spaces.
None of this is progressive. It’s religious. Furthermore it actually actively incentivizes ethnic nationalism – which again, is not progressive.
Actually, it’s not a bad article but then they have to do the “click bait” title which I assume is designed for their primary audience.
As to the meat of the article, there’s no “virtual signaling” but rather legislative decisions. Now, the rationale/reasoning behind the decisions is questionable, and that would be an interesting article for another time.
For this article, there are legal decisions driven by you know, the law. The courts are recognizing that the Crown has made commitments to Indigenous communities that they have not delivered (Feds and clean water, Feds/Provinces on education, etc). It’s taken decades but those roosters have come to roost. Some of the decisions have been accelerated by UNDRIP (the bogeyman for most the conservative press) and others like the Richmond title decision are final outcomes of a long drawn out legal process.
Anyways, what better for r/Canada to start off than with a good Indigenous rights rant.
Happy New Year!
On a per capita land mass basis these land claims are the same as a single solitary person staking a claim to the entire bahamian island chain. I am fairly certain that claim would not stand the test of time.
Plus you have the 100’s of BILLIONS provided to the indigenous community over the decades. Look at what they have to show for it. No small wonder some in their community, kudos to them albeit too little too late, are demanding answers as to where it has all gone.
Yep, the whole church run school thing was pretty reprehensible, but show me any country that doesn’t have a blight on its history. I think we have said sorry enough times for that. Time to move on.
This whole reconciliation thing has gotten out of hand. You have to wonder what this country would look like if not for the efforts of everyone who migrated here over the last century. Nunavut? I know things could be better, however its not a perfect world is it.
I was previously committed to being a treaty partner, acknowledging land, supporting government initiatives and funds and so on.
But I’ve soured over time. There’s no end to the demands for more. No meaningful idea of partnership. There’s no nuance to this new revisionist history based on shame. No end to the pretendian and “eastern Métis” phoneys looking to cash in.
Reconciliation looks to have been a scam all along.
If people can’t recognize and admit now that progressivism is a cancer on this country then they never will.
I’m not ashamed to be born here in the 90’s. People need to get over it lol. We were ALL OF US not there a few hundred years ago. We are not the colonizer anymore. There’s no shame to have, or forgiveness to ask for the things our ancestors did in fucking 1700 or whatever. Stop that bullshit. Land as always been conquer over and over again in history and it will always be that way.
Did the first nation deserve better today ? Yeah absolutely we could do more for them to have better living conditions. Do we need to whip ourselves over and over again because Jacques Cartier landed here ? Nop.
Canada’s approach to reconciliation is going to end pretty well for Indigenous people, if we’re being honest.
Empty lip service is insufferable nonsense.
I just think it’s ironic that the liberals are pushing reconciliation, land acknowledgements, and decrying the evils of colonization when they themselves added more people to Canada **in five years** than all the colonists that came to Canada in the 18th and 19th centuries combined.
We’re not at the end and it’s already very very bad. When societies go too far left, they die out. We need to bring it back to the center hard.
Reconciliation in Canada has created more racism towards indigenous people than any other Canadian government policy. Who would’ve thought that legislating a preferential class, from a criminal, wellfare, financial and cultural perspective would’ve lead to resentment by the other 90% of the citizenry? Honestly FN people want to be respected like anyone else, not have a bunch of liberal white people appropriate their cultural ceremonies and treat them like victims for all of eternity. And the folks that do want that treatment are only in it for the money.
Reconciliation is a two way street. Waiting for indigenous leaders to apologize to the taxpayer for the fraud and misuse of funds that has gone on over the years.
I’m glad more people are recognizing this is stupid
Canada is already spending more on FNs than the national defense budget now.
It’s hardly just virtue signaling.
100 percent
Bingo.
But at the bleeding hearts said otherwise lock and step with JT and his loser cronies
We don’t even reconcile. Lets stop the act.
My town has 15 church’s and 4 Catholic schools.
And then at the train station there is a wooden sign that says this property is on native land. And I’m pretty sure that’s just GO trains corporate agenda.
And that’s about as much as we care
NDPs coulda stepped in a filled the gap the libs and cons made and restore faith in Canadian society. But nope, they had to indulge in this virtues signalling BS
We’ve given tribes enough. Hundreds of billions. We need to draw a line and say that’s it.
It’s not just virtue signalling if it’s following a royal proclamation, the Constitution, and Canadian legal precedent upheld by multiple Supreme Court rulings. Jesus…