Should just ban it for non-essential medical care, it’s fucking stupid
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Min_sora on
So, am I to take from this that the circumciser was likely not even a doctor? I don’t honestly think this procedure should be happening for non-medical reasons anyway but it’s an extra level of crazy to me that someone with no medical degree can be allowed to do this. I genuinely didn’t know it was legal to be able to do circumcision with no medical qualifications.
ByteSizedGenius on
>The coroner said there are no national safeguards governing non-therapeutic male circumcision, with no requirements for training, accreditation or registration of those carrying out the procedure, and no rules on record keeping, infection control or aftercare.
You are cutting into people with a scalpel or scissors, it’s minor surgery, sure… But it’s surgery. The training, accreditation and registration should follow what we have for other minor surgery.
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CrustyBappen on
Little boy was failed by his parents and their medieval beliefs.
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sailorjerry1978 on
Archaic, ridiculous, abuse of babies, in the name of gods. Ignorant cultists who won’t even use sterile instruments.
bigmcreddit on
Religious belief and actions continue to be directly proportional to stupidity.
Personal_Lab_484 on
If I wanted to cut off the left earlobe of my son I’d be put in prison. Regardless of the fact I declared my self god last week and made that a decree for all my offspring.
I fail to see why Muslims and Jews are allowed a far more brutal thing because of some lies in the past.
ddmf on
I can understand foreskin removal if you live in a desert like area and hygiene is poor – like in the early first and second centuries – but doing it now is abhorrent, it serves no purpose and can cause issues with sexual pleasure and urination – it is male genital mutilation.
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hime-633 on
Hang on hang on hang on
Is circumcision UNREGULATED?
Oh my god it’s true
*There is no requirement in law for professionals undertaking male circumcision to be medically trained or to have proven expertise. Traditionally, religious leaders or respected elders may conduct this practice*
Imagine pinning an adult to the ground and cutting off their earlobe with a knife, without their consent.
It’s GBH with intent and should be treated accordingly. If it goes badly wrong, then it’s murder.Â
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Astriania on
We banned FGM, a religious and cultural practice that involves mutilating young kids’ genitals for no good reason. Why can’t we do the same for this?
And yes I know it’s much less severe, but it’s still cutting bits off boys for no good reason and it does come with risks.
If I were to invent a religion that stated that the last joint of the little finger was an affront to God and priests should remove it at birth, would that be ok? Even though you don’t really use that finger end for much and it wouldn’t seriously affect your life?
Practical-Purchase-9 on
> The coroner said there are no national safeguards governing non-therapeutic male circumcision, with no requirements for training, accreditation or registration of those carrying out the procedure, and no rules on record keeping, infection control or aftercare.
It’s crazy that we spend so much time and money to protect child welfare and prevent abuse through social services, prevent, cahms, etc, we’re even blocking off parts of the internet with ID checks. But want to snip part of your child’s genitalia off? No problem.
It’s absolutely because the government are too weak to cross the two religious groups most affected; Jews and Muslims.
It’s not legal get a tattoo under 18, even with parental consent. But it’s ok for a parent to have part of their baby’s penis cut off without any medical need? Come on, it makes no sense.
concretepigeon on
> The coroner said there are no national safeguards governing non-therapeutic male circumcision, with no requirements for training, accreditation or registration of those carrying out the procedure, and no rules on record keeping, infection control or aftercare.
Even before getting into the debate about whether it’s right or wrong, it’s insane that literally anyone can just do it.
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Dannypan on
Go to an American-majority group and they all say it’s necessary for health reasons and all this other bollocks. Soap and contraception is extremely easy to get here, we don’t need to mutilate boys on the off-chance they get a penis condition. Should start lopping off all body parts *just in case*.
It’s ridiculous and outdated. It needs banning unless carried out by medical professionals and anyone who performs a religious circumcision gets prison time, including the parents. Fucking scum.
Ninevehenian on
There’s no sane reason to make cosmetic cuts on another persons penis without their consent.
Especially not on a child or infants.
JoelMahon on
idk about y’all but acceptable number of deaths for a cosmetic/unnecessary/unhelpful surgery (e.g. most circumcisions) is zero. and partly because (and a whole pile of other reasons) they can’t achieve such a reasonable goal, the practice for non medicinally important reasons.
“It reduces risks of HIV” if a late teen early adult wants to get circumcised in pursuit of safer sex, let them, but a baby shouldn’t EVER be involved in applicable events that it’d reduce the chances of HIV and if they are the small delta risk of HIV is the least of their problems.
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Should just ban it for non-essential medical care, it’s fucking stupid
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So, am I to take from this that the circumciser was likely not even a doctor? I don’t honestly think this procedure should be happening for non-medical reasons anyway but it’s an extra level of crazy to me that someone with no medical degree can be allowed to do this. I genuinely didn’t know it was legal to be able to do circumcision with no medical qualifications.
>The coroner said there are no national safeguards governing non-therapeutic male circumcision, with no requirements for training, accreditation or registration of those carrying out the procedure, and no rules on record keeping, infection control or aftercare.
You are cutting into people with a scalpel or scissors, it’s minor surgery, sure… But it’s surgery. The training, accreditation and registration should follow what we have for other minor surgery.
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Little boy was failed by his parents and their medieval beliefs.
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Archaic, ridiculous, abuse of babies, in the name of gods. Ignorant cultists who won’t even use sterile instruments.
Religious belief and actions continue to be directly proportional to stupidity.
If I wanted to cut off the left earlobe of my son I’d be put in prison. Regardless of the fact I declared my self god last week and made that a decree for all my offspring.
I fail to see why Muslims and Jews are allowed a far more brutal thing because of some lies in the past.
I can understand foreskin removal if you live in a desert like area and hygiene is poor – like in the early first and second centuries – but doing it now is abhorrent, it serves no purpose and can cause issues with sexual pleasure and urination – it is male genital mutilation.
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Hang on hang on hang on
Is circumcision UNREGULATED?
Oh my god it’s true
*There is no requirement in law for professionals undertaking male circumcision to be medically trained or to have proven expertise. Traditionally, religious leaders or respected elders may conduct this practice*
https://www.londonsafeguardingchildrenprocedures.co.uk/male_circum.html#4.-legal-position
Jesus Christ. That poor poor baby.
Imagine pinning an adult to the ground and cutting off their earlobe with a knife, without their consent.
It’s GBH with intent and should be treated accordingly. If it goes badly wrong, then it’s murder.Â
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We banned FGM, a religious and cultural practice that involves mutilating young kids’ genitals for no good reason. Why can’t we do the same for this?
And yes I know it’s much less severe, but it’s still cutting bits off boys for no good reason and it does come with risks.
If I were to invent a religion that stated that the last joint of the little finger was an affront to God and priests should remove it at birth, would that be ok? Even though you don’t really use that finger end for much and it wouldn’t seriously affect your life?
> The coroner said there are no national safeguards governing non-therapeutic male circumcision, with no requirements for training, accreditation or registration of those carrying out the procedure, and no rules on record keeping, infection control or aftercare.
It’s crazy that we spend so much time and money to protect child welfare and prevent abuse through social services, prevent, cahms, etc, we’re even blocking off parts of the internet with ID checks. But want to snip part of your child’s genitalia off? No problem.
It’s absolutely because the government are too weak to cross the two religious groups most affected; Jews and Muslims.
It’s not legal get a tattoo under 18, even with parental consent. But it’s ok for a parent to have part of their baby’s penis cut off without any medical need? Come on, it makes no sense.
> The coroner said there are no national safeguards governing non-therapeutic male circumcision, with no requirements for training, accreditation or registration of those carrying out the procedure, and no rules on record keeping, infection control or aftercare.
Even before getting into the debate about whether it’s right or wrong, it’s insane that literally anyone can just do it.
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Go to an American-majority group and they all say it’s necessary for health reasons and all this other bollocks. Soap and contraception is extremely easy to get here, we don’t need to mutilate boys on the off-chance they get a penis condition. Should start lopping off all body parts *just in case*.
It’s ridiculous and outdated. It needs banning unless carried out by medical professionals and anyone who performs a religious circumcision gets prison time, including the parents. Fucking scum.
There’s no sane reason to make cosmetic cuts on another persons penis without their consent.
Especially not on a child or infants.
idk about y’all but acceptable number of deaths for a cosmetic/unnecessary/unhelpful surgery (e.g. most circumcisions) is zero. and partly because (and a whole pile of other reasons) they can’t achieve such a reasonable goal, the practice for non medicinally important reasons.
“It reduces risks of HIV” if a late teen early adult wants to get circumcised in pursuit of safer sex, let them, but a baby shouldn’t EVER be involved in applicable events that it’d reduce the chances of HIV and if they are the small delta risk of HIV is the least of their problems.