OLP leading in Toronto, the GTA and the North. Also, leading among women, and a close race for the older cohort of voters. These are very good numbers for the r/OntarioLiberalParty from the most accurate pollster in the last provincial election.
Bad news for the Ontario r/NDP, though.
Throwawayhair66392 on
All the PCs have to say for a guaranteed win at the next election is that Nathaniel Erskine Smith wants to allow apartments on your quiet residential streets. Instant majority through the 905 ridings.
GavinTheAlmighty on
It strikes me that the OLP is going to be beneficiary of Ford’s blatant corruption and incompetence and Stiles’ labour to expose it, rather than the NDP, for any number of reasons.
I like Marit Stiles a lot – I think she’d be excellent at governance. But once the Greenbelt momentum fizzled in favour of October 7th, it was clear she had an uphill battle to gain the confidence of the public. Their public statements and social media presence needs a major overhaul. It’s like they’re absolutely terrified of coming across as anything but staid, stoic civil servants.
I think the NDP needs a firebrand. They need someone willing to play the game with confidence, who can inspire a bit of fight in the youth.
EarthWarping on
Thats a way better poll for the OLP than expected. No leader however, yet with their own version of Ford they can hammer at him somehow.
I do wonder who is a candidate that can beat Ford at his own game.
Jebussez on
While the topline makes sense, this continues the tradition of ‘Huh?’ moments in Ontario provincial crosstabs.
PCs higher in the 416 than 905?
Libs crash and burning in Eastern Ontario while up everywhere else?
Ham/Niagara (SC here) and SW as PC sweeps with basically zero real opposition?
It leads to bizarre seat model results.
Abacus does this as well. Not saying its impossible of course, but these crosstabs really get consistently weird and makes me wonder what they’re doing.Â
darrylgorn on
Same old story.
NDP does the work to expose Conservative corruption and the Liberals are the beneficiaries.
And then people wonder why we still have income inequality and the constant spectre of privatization of healthcare and education.
Radix838 on
With numbers like these, one would imagine that a lot of backbench Liberal MPs are going to look in the mirror and start seeing a future Premier.
Sufficient_Fact_3194 on
Remember folks only a third approximately of the province voted last time…. Imagine if we had at least 50%, I feel like these percentages would be a lot different
RNTMA on
We’ll see how well the Ontario Liberals are doing come next year when they still haven’t announced a leadership race and Bonnie Crombie is still on the payroll. Ontarians seem to have a natural affinity towards the party, but it’s a dumpster fire organizationally.
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OLP leading in Toronto, the GTA and the North. Also, leading among women, and a close race for the older cohort of voters. These are very good numbers for the r/OntarioLiberalParty from the most accurate pollster in the last provincial election.
Bad news for the Ontario r/NDP, though.
All the PCs have to say for a guaranteed win at the next election is that Nathaniel Erskine Smith wants to allow apartments on your quiet residential streets. Instant majority through the 905 ridings.
It strikes me that the OLP is going to be beneficiary of Ford’s blatant corruption and incompetence and Stiles’ labour to expose it, rather than the NDP, for any number of reasons.
I like Marit Stiles a lot – I think she’d be excellent at governance. But once the Greenbelt momentum fizzled in favour of October 7th, it was clear she had an uphill battle to gain the confidence of the public. Their public statements and social media presence needs a major overhaul. It’s like they’re absolutely terrified of coming across as anything but staid, stoic civil servants.
I think the NDP needs a firebrand. They need someone willing to play the game with confidence, who can inspire a bit of fight in the youth.
Thats a way better poll for the OLP than expected. No leader however, yet with their own version of Ford they can hammer at him somehow.
I do wonder who is a candidate that can beat Ford at his own game.
While the topline makes sense, this continues the tradition of ‘Huh?’ moments in Ontario provincial crosstabs.
PCs higher in the 416 than 905?
Libs crash and burning in Eastern Ontario while up everywhere else?
Ham/Niagara (SC here) and SW as PC sweeps with basically zero real opposition?
It leads to bizarre seat model results.
Abacus does this as well. Not saying its impossible of course, but these crosstabs really get consistently weird and makes me wonder what they’re doing.Â
Same old story.
NDP does the work to expose Conservative corruption and the Liberals are the beneficiaries.
And then people wonder why we still have income inequality and the constant spectre of privatization of healthcare and education.
With numbers like these, one would imagine that a lot of backbench Liberal MPs are going to look in the mirror and start seeing a future Premier.
Remember folks only a third approximately of the province voted last time…. Imagine if we had at least 50%, I feel like these percentages would be a lot different
We’ll see how well the Ontario Liberals are doing come next year when they still haven’t announced a leadership race and Bonnie Crombie is still on the payroll. Ontarians seem to have a natural affinity towards the party, but it’s a dumpster fire organizationally.