This sounds like someone’s parents than a government agency… They appeared to not cared about the context either…
LuciaDeLetby on
>She was asked by the DWP to provide her last three bank statements – which she said she had already downloaded and sent – but it told her it had not received them. The DWP has since apologised .
Reminder to read the article not just the headline
Impressive-Bird-6085 on
This all too often happens.
All too often, DWP/ JCP ESA (Disability) and PIP applications made by disabled and chronically sick are wrongly rejected.
This is all very symbolic of the rotten, stinking culture that exists within the DWP and JobCentrePlus…
Iconic_Zebra on
Not defending DWP at all (I used to work for them so very aware of how things work) but the article doesn’t say if she actually raised this with anyone at DWP. Mistakes do happen and (at least when I left a few years ago) 99% of these systems / decisions etc were automated.Â
yer-what on
>She receives just over £1,000 a month in Universal Credit which covers the £722 rent for her Platform Housing Group ground-floor flat and is used for other bills and living expenses. She also receives £900 a month in Personal Independence Payment (PIP).
£1900 a month, tax free! Plus all the other bonuses that come with UC like reduced council tax etc. Lots of jobs she could do without walking.
Agitated_Strain_6260 on
I still remember my mums capacity for work meeting, it had to be at home as she’s bed bound, the very nice lady walked in took one look at my mum and went for fucks sake, I can’t believe they actually sent me! I think they permanently signed her off from having them because this was years ago! From what I’ve seen they always punish those who actually need it and the ones that play the system seem to get away with it.
Jensen1994 on
The DWP once told a friend of the family who was on a PIP to attend an assessment. The assessment was up 6 flights of stairs and the lift wasn’t working. It took her over half an hour to get up the stairs. She lost her benefit because they deemed that if she was fit enough to climb the stairs, she wasn’t entitled. Should’ve told them that she was in reception and if they wanted to assess her, they’d have to come down…
Obvious_Gas_1831 on
Clearly a terrible mistake and hopefully her money will be reinstated quickly. But she was getting £1900 a month tax free and had her care paid for. How has she only got £1.71 in the bank?
beansprout88 on
A close family member recently retired from the Job Center. Cases like this were not rare but happened every week. People in comas declared fit to work, completely fabricated health assessments describing the good functioning of limbs that had been amputated years earlier, terminal cancer patients told to find work and dying a few months later, blind people being sanctioned for not responding to a written letter in time. Staff had performance targets to get people off benefits by whatever means necessary, and those who resisted were put on PIPs, had salary cut and were pushed to leave or retire. This all started with the coalition government (conservatives and Lib Dem’s) who were worse than anything under thatcher.
user97532567 on
Yep this is the problem it’s too hard to sort the deserving from the undeserving so the only system that works is to provide a safety net that is significantly worse than getting a job. Now the best way of solving that is not to means test that basic safety net so that even £1 an hour is worth doing.
ratsrulehell on
My mum is a nurse and had a job doing the disability assessments for a couple of months. They routinely tried to pressure her into labelling people as fit for work who weren’t, so she left.
honkymotherfucker1 on
My dad got fucked by this in 2013-14ish, it’s a bit foggy when but he was an amputee who’d had a hip replacement due to a bone regrowth problem, had acute pancreatitis and multiple nerve problems stemming from the bike accident and negligent care resulting in the loss of his leg.
DWP decided he was absolutely fine to go back to work and he got cut off from basically everything. We were so fucking poor it was unbelievable, the landlord we had was an angel and let us just accrue the rent as debt with 0 interest and very informally too. I genuinely think the stress of that year or so took some years off his life.
I’ll rant about this anytime I can but DWP can be seriously cruel fuckers, some very fallible people can be given too much say over a vulnerable persons life.
GodSaveUsFromPettyMo on
Maybe there could be some job she could do from home/bed if her illness permits? Without judging her badly, but thinking of my own situation over the years (multisick, now on palliative care regime but not cancer) in the past I could have done some ‘remote work’. Less so today, at least if I had to clock on at x o’clock – but if it was ‘do paperwork for x hours’ on a good day I could and it might be good ‘rehab’. But authorities are tone deaf and rarely flexible. Note I did not read up on her exact condition, so the comment is more general.
Thekingchem on
It’s crazy how genuinely sick and disabled people get rejected but you see people fully capable of work being able to live on the dole their whole life drinking every day and being antisocial
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This sounds like someone’s parents than a government agency… They appeared to not cared about the context either…
>She was asked by the DWP to provide her last three bank statements – which she said she had already downloaded and sent – but it told her it had not received them. The DWP has since apologised .
Reminder to read the article not just the headline
This all too often happens.
All too often, DWP/ JCP ESA (Disability) and PIP applications made by disabled and chronically sick are wrongly rejected.
This is all very symbolic of the rotten, stinking culture that exists within the DWP and JobCentrePlus…
Not defending DWP at all (I used to work for them so very aware of how things work) but the article doesn’t say if she actually raised this with anyone at DWP. Mistakes do happen and (at least when I left a few years ago) 99% of these systems / decisions etc were automated.Â
>She receives just over £1,000 a month in Universal Credit which covers the £722 rent for her Platform Housing Group ground-floor flat and is used for other bills and living expenses. She also receives £900 a month in Personal Independence Payment (PIP).
£1900 a month, tax free! Plus all the other bonuses that come with UC like reduced council tax etc. Lots of jobs she could do without walking.
I still remember my mums capacity for work meeting, it had to be at home as she’s bed bound, the very nice lady walked in took one look at my mum and went for fucks sake, I can’t believe they actually sent me! I think they permanently signed her off from having them because this was years ago! From what I’ve seen they always punish those who actually need it and the ones that play the system seem to get away with it.
The DWP once told a friend of the family who was on a PIP to attend an assessment. The assessment was up 6 flights of stairs and the lift wasn’t working. It took her over half an hour to get up the stairs. She lost her benefit because they deemed that if she was fit enough to climb the stairs, she wasn’t entitled. Should’ve told them that she was in reception and if they wanted to assess her, they’d have to come down…
Clearly a terrible mistake and hopefully her money will be reinstated quickly. But she was getting £1900 a month tax free and had her care paid for. How has she only got £1.71 in the bank?
A close family member recently retired from the Job Center. Cases like this were not rare but happened every week. People in comas declared fit to work, completely fabricated health assessments describing the good functioning of limbs that had been amputated years earlier, terminal cancer patients told to find work and dying a few months later, blind people being sanctioned for not responding to a written letter in time. Staff had performance targets to get people off benefits by whatever means necessary, and those who resisted were put on PIPs, had salary cut and were pushed to leave or retire. This all started with the coalition government (conservatives and Lib Dem’s) who were worse than anything under thatcher.
Yep this is the problem it’s too hard to sort the deserving from the undeserving so the only system that works is to provide a safety net that is significantly worse than getting a job. Now the best way of solving that is not to means test that basic safety net so that even £1 an hour is worth doing.
My mum is a nurse and had a job doing the disability assessments for a couple of months. They routinely tried to pressure her into labelling people as fit for work who weren’t, so she left.
My dad got fucked by this in 2013-14ish, it’s a bit foggy when but he was an amputee who’d had a hip replacement due to a bone regrowth problem, had acute pancreatitis and multiple nerve problems stemming from the bike accident and negligent care resulting in the loss of his leg.
DWP decided he was absolutely fine to go back to work and he got cut off from basically everything. We were so fucking poor it was unbelievable, the landlord we had was an angel and let us just accrue the rent as debt with 0 interest and very informally too. I genuinely think the stress of that year or so took some years off his life.
I’ll rant about this anytime I can but DWP can be seriously cruel fuckers, some very fallible people can be given too much say over a vulnerable persons life.
Maybe there could be some job she could do from home/bed if her illness permits? Without judging her badly, but thinking of my own situation over the years (multisick, now on palliative care regime but not cancer) in the past I could have done some ‘remote work’. Less so today, at least if I had to clock on at x o’clock – but if it was ‘do paperwork for x hours’ on a good day I could and it might be good ‘rehab’. But authorities are tone deaf and rarely flexible. Note I did not read up on her exact condition, so the comment is more general.
It’s crazy how genuinely sick and disabled people get rejected but you see people fully capable of work being able to live on the dole their whole life drinking every day and being antisocial