White – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa.
Posted by Vietnam-1234
White – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa.
Posted by Vietnam-1234
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TIL Egyptians are considered white. And northern sub saharian people
It’s quite interesting why Middle Easterns became “white” in the USA. It all traces back to a single lawsuit from 1915 [Dow v. United States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dow_v._United_States). Syrian lawyers used the good old American racism against the USA themselves.
It sounds like a joke, but their argument was basically *”If we are not white, then Jesus is not white. Are you sure your lord and saviour Jesus Christ is not white?”*. They won the case, and this allows Syrians to get some of that sweet white privilege.
A lot of South Asians have European ancestry too. Early anthropologists classified North Indian groups alongside Persians and Arabs as Caucasians.
Yes, racial lines weren’t as “sophisticated” back then. But even so, I actually have no problems with this. Some of the people in these places do look White. After all, they either literally or practically border Europe, and/or have had millenia-long interactions (mixing) with them.
Unironically, I think the government should have kept this definition. And instead of adding a new racial category for Middle Easterners and North Africans, they could have added these as a second option under “ethnicity”, allowing the racial question to be answered however one wanted to. And if there are those who identify more closely to the ethnicity itself, then maybe alongside the ethnicity question we could have also added new racial categories that adequately and respectfully describe some of these cultures (e.g. Berber, Maghrebi, Arab, Levantine, Central Asian, etc.)
Real answer. White is a goofy label that changes over years depending on political tide. White used to exclude Catholics lol. Now it kinda just encompasses all traditionally christian European adjacent people. Like how Armenians are considered white but not Turkish people. (Some people of argue Turks are white.)
Whiteness as in pale skin appears in any groups that lives far enough north for long enough. Skin colour acts more as a gradient centered around the equator. That’s how East Asians have pale skin even though they don’t have much European DNA. (Biggest factor in generational skin colour change is how much sunshine you and your ancestors got throughout their lives.)
What is white in the US, definitely isn’t white where I come from. 😛
Kinda shows how the entire concept is bullshit really
Yeah, that’s about right.
You mean we’ve been bombing white people this whole time?!?!
I need a minute.
Joined these countries would truly be a power
Turks are white
To be honest, while racial categories are obviously pseudoscientific bullshit; if we were forced to divide humanity up into races, this always made way more sense to me than separating up Europeans from Middle Easterns and North Africans.
I went to the World Cup in St. Petersburg 2018. I watched the Iran and Morocco game. All the Moroccans were darker than the Americans of Mexican heritage in my neighborhood back in the United States.
But, whatever.
By this logic, you might as well include Indians, since the Indo-European languages are all connected.
Will this finally shut the Italians up that claim to not be white?
Egyptians and Yemenis? Sure, but it’ll be a cold day in hell that I calls Turks white
Hilarious that Oman is a white country but Kazakhstan is not, despite them being considerably of lighter skin.
Islamic colonization changed a lot of countries, killed a lot of the native populations
Post: Look at this obvious stupid
People: No wait, let me haggle about the details of my stupid, I love it so much
American interpretation of colour is overall very weird, like their one drop rule. Wasn’t there a famous case where an Egyptian student stated that they were African American and then got in trouble for it?
The American view of race/colour is just very different to how most other countries see it, take many Carribbean states, South Africa or Brasil as an example with their view on mullatos/mixed/coloured people and you see how different the views can be.
Fuck the USA. In Turkey we’re not white, we’re KARABOĞA 💪🏿👦🏿🤘🏿🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🐺🐺
And this is why American racial crime stats are useless. Some of the same people classed as white can also get diversity privileges