Im genuenly suprised they were even brave enough to film this. Its also ironic that if this scene was the finns doing it to the russian then we would be cheering but this reverses the roles and really changes your perspective.
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I had leave out the worst of the scene becouse reddit doesnt allow any blood.
It has been in every version of the film before, so it would have been weird to leave it out of this one.
That’s war, war is cruel, part of Unknown soldier is to show cruelty of war. Ruzzia does that on daily basis in Ukraine and it’s easier these day thanks to loitering ammunition. Soldier is injured, drone finds them, waits for medic to arrive, blows up both. It’s Genevas task list for them.
Fun fact 1: Finland does so realistic propaganda that it’s illegal in some countries, e.g. how in Battlefield 2020 they have a news reader telling about declaration of war. That would be illegal in UK because mimicking news isn’t allowed.
Fun fact 2: cars transporting dead bodies have to be specifically approved and/or marked as such as per Finnish law. So just dumping body bags on some random trailer is technically a crime, although everyone in the FDF understands that that law will be broken during war time.
Slava ukraini
Isn’t that the part with Aku Hirviniemi? I was honestly surprised to see him perform that so well considering his more humorous reputation
I think the Unknown Soldier from 1955 has the most horrific version of this scene. Or perhaps it’s just that I saw it at so young age.
Also the 1985 version is more disturbing to me than the 2017.
what makes you say that finns shooting at a russian ambulance would make us cheer?
Would we really be cheering if it was reversed?
Majority of Finns would def. not cheer wtf
I don’t understand why we would be cheering for a war crime like this. Why would you assume that?
By far the most upsetting scene and the one that stood out the most in the book
I watched only the old version. Didn’t yet seen this one
Finnish audiences wouldn’t be cheering for a scene of shooting blind people coming out of an ambulance, for fuck sake not even the military propaganda Hollywood movies would portrait such a scene with the purpose of the audience cheering at it.
The original novel is extremely critical of war and it’s effect on the common man. One of the most iconic and thematic scenes is the surprise attack on the Russian patrol by Rokka. Important to note, how the laid back and good-humoured Rokka turns into a bloodthirsty maniac in the scene, completely wiping out the whole patrol. It’s a bittersweet scene of Rokka becoming a folk hero for others but at the same time losing a part of his humanity in the process.
So thinking that most Finns would cheer on the slaughter of non-combatants is a very simple, surface level take of the core themes of Unknown Soldier.
War is hell.
I myself hate most american war movies. Painting war as heroic. Everything black and white morally. Worst propaganda that they still make in hollywood.
I don’t think anybody was cheering earlier on in the story when Lehto shopts the prisoner in the back. Although some people might get a chuckle out of his cold answer to Koskela in the discussion that follows.
Because war is horrible, we shouldn’t fantasize about it and we sure as hell shouldn’t be making people try to feel optimistic about their own chances in it. Most of us are going to be thrown into any meat grinder to defend the country and so it’s unrealistic to expect us to see some uniquely better people among us. I was once told during the evening round-up that we are just pawns, just like our squad leaders or company leaders — we are going to die
What’s the point of your post? Either this is engagement bait or you have completely missed the point of the movie and interpreted the cultural and societal significance of this story in Finland. If you assume Finnish people would cheer at a scene like this no matter the ”roles”, you are either ignorant, misinformed or just trolling.
If you havent, you should watch “Talvisota”, there is a few brutal scenes from that movie stuck in my head even after a few years since i watched it
Thanks for telling me how i would react to a war crime. I had no idea i was such a callous bastard.
I don’t think we would be cheering on Finns attacking a medical car. It would be quite a somber scene, albeit definitely a different kind of feeling to it. Kinda like the scene where they execute two soldiers in the snow for insubordination, except that in that one the army was playing by the rules, while attacking the medical car would be a war crime.