Nothing a little 3am Dail vote wont solve for them.
jonnieggg on
Send like public opinion, democracy and the rule of law is increasingly irrelevant to this government.
denbo786 on
The government will make it legal
feedthebear on
These laws are completely disproportionate to their stated goals and FFG thinking they can throw around “the protection of children” as if it defeats all other arguments is very dismissive.
I mean we all want to see a reduction in bots and disinformation but Simon Harris trying to ram these laws through shows a lot of contempt for legitimate concerns people have. And he’s trying to spearhead it so he can be the big man for when Ireland holds the EU Presidency later this year.
The same Harris who has his fingerprints all over trying to ram through the children’s hospital as minister for health from 2016 to 2020 but let’s not even go there. It’s no wonder he wants these laws because it’s been so apparent for so long that this government is ineffective and his only hope is that mandatory IDs for social media will mean people won’t call him out. We need to find a better way to deal with this issue.
Sad-Orange-5983 on
It will happen and people will roll over and fall for it, same as hate speech bill.
Nuffsaid98 on
It they were really only concerned with child safety then an anonymous age verification system which confirmed an individual is over 18 without passing on ANY identification or personal information would suffice.
jumpbutton23 on
Look the theme for 2026 is obviously going to be “rules are for poors” so I would encourage people not take comfort in shit like this.
AlienInOrigin on
And unnecessary. Better, cheaper solutions are possible.
_k0kane_ on
Are we going to get money for our data? Since it’s all going to be so meticulously tracked now?
It’ll only take a few court cases to set precedence for this entire idea to backfire.
Sad-Orange-5983 on
**EDIT: Just going to edit my comment to say, if you’re against this proposed legislation, contact Communications Minister Patrick O’Donovan respectfully telling him this.**
**We have every right to contact these politicians with our views on legislation. Email the 3-5 TDs in your constituency as well. Emails here:** [**https://www.contactyourtd.ie/**](https://www.contactyourtd.ie/)
>“There are key issues here in terms of freedom of expression, freedom to be able to read or communicate with others without being subject to government licensing, intrusive monitoring and the ability of the State to identify what you’re reading or the websites you visit,” Dr McIntyre said.
>“It’s an extraordinarily intrusive proposal. Nothing like this has ever been done in an EU member state, and to my mind it cannot be done legally.”
This is what the expert says.
>Mr O’Donovan was unbothered by data privacy implications and by the issue of people’s online activity being tracked by the new system.
>“There is no other right that trumps the right of a child to be protected, and no amount of convincing me that data protection is more important than child protection is ever going to win out,” he told the Irish Daily Mail.
Politician basically says “I don’t care about people’s rights. I want my way”.
feedthebear on
If I was a garda the only way I could criticise this government is anonymously on social media like here. I don’t want to put my name to those criticisms valid and all as they are.
sureyouknowurself on
People will move to VPN’s then they will try to ban them too. All about mass surveillance.
Business_Version1676 on
This being pushed globally and is part of a bigger agenda, they will do as they are told and plow on like the good little boys they are
Randomhiatus on
Digital ID is coming from the EU, each national government is mandated to provide some form of digital ID by the end of 2026. Therefore, we must create it and make it available for people to use.
From what I can see, the EU is currently only mandating it be accepted where there already exists a mandate to require “strong customer authentication” (e.g. banks).
I can’t find a straight answer on whether it could become the ONLY accepted form of ID for any purpose in the future. (i.e. it isn’t currently required but might become so in the future).
The EU Digital ID framework appears to be a more secure alternative to the systems in place in Australia and the UK. (Personal data is not directly shared with 3rd parties and the government does not see which 3rd parties you are using Digital ID with).
Apart from the obvious government encroachment into people’s private lives (and how futile it is when VPNs are widely available), there is very little concrete information about when Digital ID will be required.
There is also a very disturbing lack of pushback from our own TDs, personal privacy is a very valid concern that is almost completely glossed over. The whole vibe is ‘trust us, we won’t misuse this’…
You have to be proper dense to believe this is about protecting children
Couch-Potayto on
Folks, get the td’s mail list from https://fightchatcontrol.eu/ and annoy the life out of them and put pressure asking the right questions:
Who’s going to pay for the damages of data breaches?
Are they looking for having their own data for sale on the web too? (Even in an imaginary scenario where they are exempt somehow, they solicitors, accountants, family members etc won’t)
are they that naive to think minors won’t know how to circumvent measures assuming they give even half a shit to children?
There are just a few of lines of questioning for this moronic move and the braindead folks signing off on it.
mrlinkwii on
i mean they will make it legal?
bolloxology on
The Lisbon treaty was a huge mistake.
weveyline on
If politicians are exempt, then it’s definitely a scam
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Nothing a little 3am Dail vote wont solve for them.
Send like public opinion, democracy and the rule of law is increasingly irrelevant to this government.
The government will make it legal
These laws are completely disproportionate to their stated goals and FFG thinking they can throw around “the protection of children” as if it defeats all other arguments is very dismissive.
I mean we all want to see a reduction in bots and disinformation but Simon Harris trying to ram these laws through shows a lot of contempt for legitimate concerns people have. And he’s trying to spearhead it so he can be the big man for when Ireland holds the EU Presidency later this year.
The same Harris who has his fingerprints all over trying to ram through the children’s hospital as minister for health from 2016 to 2020 but let’s not even go there. It’s no wonder he wants these laws because it’s been so apparent for so long that this government is ineffective and his only hope is that mandatory IDs for social media will mean people won’t call him out. We need to find a better way to deal with this issue.
It will happen and people will roll over and fall for it, same as hate speech bill.
It they were really only concerned with child safety then an anonymous age verification system which confirmed an individual is over 18 without passing on ANY identification or personal information would suffice.
Look the theme for 2026 is obviously going to be “rules are for poors” so I would encourage people not take comfort in shit like this.
And unnecessary. Better, cheaper solutions are possible.
Are we going to get money for our data? Since it’s all going to be so meticulously tracked now?
It’ll only take a few court cases to set precedence for this entire idea to backfire.
**EDIT: Just going to edit my comment to say, if you’re against this proposed legislation, contact Communications Minister Patrick O’Donovan respectfully telling him this.**
**Email:** [**patrick.odonovan@oireachtas.ie**](mailto:patrick.odonovan@oireachtas.ie)
**Phone: (069) 779 98 / (01) 618 3610**
**We have every right to contact these politicians with our views on legislation. Email the 3-5 TDs in your constituency as well. Emails here:** [**https://www.contactyourtd.ie/**](https://www.contactyourtd.ie/)
>“There are key issues here in terms of freedom of expression, freedom to be able to read or communicate with others without being subject to government licensing, intrusive monitoring and the ability of the State to identify what you’re reading or the websites you visit,” Dr McIntyre said.
>“It’s an extraordinarily intrusive proposal. Nothing like this has ever been done in an EU member state, and to my mind it cannot be done legally.”
This is what the expert says.
>Mr O’Donovan was unbothered by data privacy implications and by the issue of people’s online activity being tracked by the new system.
>“There is no other right that trumps the right of a child to be protected, and no amount of convincing me that data protection is more important than child protection is ever going to win out,” he told the Irish Daily Mail.
Politician basically says “I don’t care about people’s rights. I want my way”.
If I was a garda the only way I could criticise this government is anonymously on social media like here. I don’t want to put my name to those criticisms valid and all as they are.
People will move to VPN’s then they will try to ban them too. All about mass surveillance.
This being pushed globally and is part of a bigger agenda, they will do as they are told and plow on like the good little boys they are
Digital ID is coming from the EU, each national government is mandated to provide some form of digital ID by the end of 2026. Therefore, we must create it and make it available for people to use.
From what I can see, the EU is currently only mandating it be accepted where there already exists a mandate to require “strong customer authentication” (e.g. banks).
I can’t find a straight answer on whether it could become the ONLY accepted form of ID for any purpose in the future. (i.e. it isn’t currently required but might become so in the future).
The EU Digital ID framework appears to be a more secure alternative to the systems in place in Australia and the UK. (Personal data is not directly shared with 3rd parties and the government does not see which 3rd parties you are using Digital ID with).
Apart from the obvious government encroachment into people’s private lives (and how futile it is when VPNs are widely available), there is very little concrete information about when Digital ID will be required.
There is also a very disturbing lack of pushback from our own TDs, personal privacy is a very valid concern that is almost completely glossed over. The whole vibe is ‘trust us, we won’t misuse this’…
Source: [EU Digital ID information page](https://ec.europa.eu/digital-building-blocks/sites/spaces/EUDIGITALIDENTITYWALLET/pages/694487738/EU+Digital+Identity+Wallet+Home)
You have to be proper dense to believe this is about protecting children
Folks, get the td’s mail list from https://fightchatcontrol.eu/ and annoy the life out of them and put pressure asking the right questions:
Who’s going to pay for the damages of data breaches?
Are they looking for having their own data for sale on the web too? (Even in an imaginary scenario where they are exempt somehow, they solicitors, accountants, family members etc won’t)
are they that naive to think minors won’t know how to circumvent measures assuming they give even half a shit to children?
There are just a few of lines of questioning for this moronic move and the braindead folks signing off on it.
i mean they will make it legal?
The Lisbon treaty was a huge mistake.
If politicians are exempt, then it’s definitely a scam