Not near, in according to video. Large mobilization of military according to media. Reports are it is Colectivos attacking.
Colombianonoestupido on
Lots of rumors going on, some saying that Diosdado Cabello, Minister of The Interior, and one of the strong man of the regime may have launched some sort of internal coup.
Others claim it may be jittery soldiers firing at one of their own drone and that may have caused some general panic.
Things seem to be pointing out towards the second explanation. Well, at least this time they did shoot a bit, that’s an improvement.
rolsen on
> “Residents of the 23 de Enero parish in Caracas reported on Monday night an alleged armed response against drones that had entered the area, according to messages circulated in community council groups. According to witnesses, residents were ordered to take shelter in their homes while the situation unfolded. Messages circulating online claim that ‘we responded to the drones'”
Seeing drones but there is a lot of conflicting information right now.
threeriversbikeguy on
Well if the warlords’ pay was cut off and this is them acting out, Little Marco will have a humanitarian nightmare and many dead US troops on his 2028 credentials in short order.
Failure to understand the warlord-as-deputies culture is how we messed up so badly in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya , Yemen, East Africa.
SlowCrates on
This is just the beginning. Don’t worry. Children currently in 5th grade will soon be guarding all that oil. We’re gonna be there for a long time.
I don’t not envy parents right now.
OnlyRise9816 on
Guess we’ll see how powerful the VP’s faction actually was.
Material_Policy6327 on
Huh who coulda predicted this…
MidLifeCrysis75 on
Who could have seen this coming??? 🙄
peterpanic32 on
Who would have thought that lawlessly invading a country, decapitating its leadership on trumped up charges, forcing a regime change, and then leaving with zero plan or concept of a plan would have unintended consequences?
If only we had dozens of perfect examples from specifically US foreign policy history over the past few decades to call on to inform our decision making on why this is a bad idea.
NyriasNeo on
The horde of dictator-wannabes are making moves even before Maduro is convicted, which I suppose is just a formality.
coochie_clogger on
Are we sure it’s not just Venezuelans still cheering about their heroic Americans busting in and rescuing them??
/s
PlasticTelevision126 on
Power vacuum.
loodog on
When we took Saddam out of the equation, Iraq turned into a war zone of foreign fighters looking to kill Americans.
stumu415 on
The cartels will be running the US vassal state soon. Fentanyl for all. Just don’t touch the oil.
Jumpy_Childhood7548 on
I guess they will just shoot the successors now, rather than fly then to New York.
TasteIllustrious7585 on
I think it was Colin Powell who once said Leadership solves problems or something along those lines. Also when you brake something you then have to fix it.
Braided_Marxist on
No way deposing the head of state will lead to a power vacuum and instability
Certainly not what we would expect for a head of state being kidnapped/captured. Just seems odd.
It is likewise odd that Trump has publicly disavowed the opposition leadership. The guy’s default setting is hyperbole, which makes it hard to parse out reality. But nothing about this seems thought out past the tactical stuff.
Which, to be sure, the conduct of US forces is exemplary. Really amazing stuff. Venezuela knew what was coming for months. They had advanced air defense systems from Russia (S-300VM is supposedly quite good). They had advanced Chinese radars, the JY-27 is supposedly able to track stealth aircraft such as the F-35. Everything knocked out in 20 minutes.
Just wild.
A_Talking_iPod on
Venezuelan reporting. Gunshots appear to have died down around half an hour ago. Current version of events circulating is that Presidential Guard mistook drones deployed by Venezuela’s armed forces and opened fire. The whole thing appears to have been a paranoia-induced accident.
zedigalis on
Genuinely wouldn’t be surprised given their track record if in many years we learn that this potential coup was orchestrated by the CIA to ensure a pro USA government in Venezuela.
Late_night_pizzas on
God help the Venezuelan people when America comes in to “stabilise” your country
SLR107FR-31 on
What wonderfully terrifying times we live in….
poppin-n-sailin on
Power vacuum. good luck, Venezuelans
coryscandy on
Comments aging like milk rn
BillyShears2015 on
Mmm….I know a multi-faction civil war brewing when I smell it. Subtle notes of 2005 in the air
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Not near, in according to video. Large mobilization of military according to media. Reports are it is Colectivos attacking.
Lots of rumors going on, some saying that Diosdado Cabello, Minister of The Interior, and one of the strong man of the regime may have launched some sort of internal coup.
Others claim it may be jittery soldiers firing at one of their own drone and that may have caused some general panic.
Things seem to be pointing out towards the second explanation. Well, at least this time they did shoot a bit, that’s an improvement.
> “Residents of the 23 de Enero parish in Caracas reported on Monday night an alleged armed response against drones that had entered the area, according to messages circulated in community council groups. According to witnesses, residents were ordered to take shelter in their homes while the situation unfolded. Messages circulating online claim that ‘we responded to the drones'”
Seeing drones but there is a lot of conflicting information right now.
Well if the warlords’ pay was cut off and this is them acting out, Little Marco will have a humanitarian nightmare and many dead US troops on his 2028 credentials in short order.
Failure to understand the warlord-as-deputies culture is how we messed up so badly in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya , Yemen, East Africa.
This is just the beginning. Don’t worry. Children currently in 5th grade will soon be guarding all that oil. We’re gonna be there for a long time.
I don’t not envy parents right now.
Guess we’ll see how powerful the VP’s faction actually was.
Huh who coulda predicted this…
Who could have seen this coming??? 🙄
Who would have thought that lawlessly invading a country, decapitating its leadership on trumped up charges, forcing a regime change, and then leaving with zero plan or concept of a plan would have unintended consequences?
If only we had dozens of perfect examples from specifically US foreign policy history over the past few decades to call on to inform our decision making on why this is a bad idea.
The horde of dictator-wannabes are making moves even before Maduro is convicted, which I suppose is just a formality.
Are we sure it’s not just Venezuelans still cheering about their heroic Americans busting in and rescuing them??
/s
Power vacuum.
When we took Saddam out of the equation, Iraq turned into a war zone of foreign fighters looking to kill Americans.
The cartels will be running the US vassal state soon. Fentanyl for all. Just don’t touch the oil.
I guess they will just shoot the successors now, rather than fly then to New York.
I think it was Colin Powell who once said Leadership solves problems or something along those lines. Also when you brake something you then have to fix it.
No way deposing the head of state will lead to a power vacuum and instability
One thing that has struck me is the near total absence of protest in Venezuela. There are some, but they don’t appear to be that large: https://www.nbcnews.com/video/-we-want-him-back-thousands-in-caracas-rally-for-maduro-s-release-255391301959
Certainly not what we would expect for a head of state being kidnapped/captured. Just seems odd.
It is likewise odd that Trump has publicly disavowed the opposition leadership. The guy’s default setting is hyperbole, which makes it hard to parse out reality. But nothing about this seems thought out past the tactical stuff.
Which, to be sure, the conduct of US forces is exemplary. Really amazing stuff. Venezuela knew what was coming for months. They had advanced air defense systems from Russia (S-300VM is supposedly quite good). They had advanced Chinese radars, the JY-27 is supposedly able to track stealth aircraft such as the F-35. Everything knocked out in 20 minutes.
Just wild.
Venezuelan reporting. Gunshots appear to have died down around half an hour ago. Current version of events circulating is that Presidential Guard mistook drones deployed by Venezuela’s armed forces and opened fire. The whole thing appears to have been a paranoia-induced accident.
Genuinely wouldn’t be surprised given their track record if in many years we learn that this potential coup was orchestrated by the CIA to ensure a pro USA government in Venezuela.
God help the Venezuelan people when America comes in to “stabilise” your country
What wonderfully terrifying times we live in….
Power vacuum. good luck, Venezuelans
Comments aging like milk rn
Mmm….I know a multi-faction civil war brewing when I smell it. Subtle notes of 2005 in the air