Please let them lose any and every vote on this dumb treasonous nonsense
ne6c on
Uh oh, what know? Are Starmer and Hermer gonna spend even more money on this, that literally no one wants, outside of them?
But how will they look like if they walk away? All the soft power and “international law” would be gone out the window.
Starmer is like the meme with the dude with 2 buttons tho chose from and he has himself to blame.
ASValourous on
Is this the “fuck the taxpayer” deal for no real reason?
not_a_bot991 on
“An amendment was proposed that payments to Mauritius should stop if the Diego Garcia base could no longer be used. The government opposed it, but was defeated by eight votes.”
Such common sense I wonder why the government opposed this one?
CheesyBakedLobster on
This is the weirdest hill for this government to die on, considering all the other big domestic items they u-turned on.
Nuthetes on
This has to be the stupidest fucking deal I have seen in my life time. Firstly, clearly pushed through by China and Russia to weaken Britain. Putin and Xi will be pissing themselves laughing that we are going through with it.
Would Putin, Xi, Trump… or any other major world leader actually take the International Court of Justic seriously and do as they say?
Secondly, Maritius themselves taking the absolute piss and demanding more money to be given them. As soon as they asked for money, that should have been it. Fuck off, you’re not getting them at all now you greedy cunts.
Thirdly – the original Chagos island residents dont want this lmfao.
I don’t know why Kier is so insistant on pushing this through. How many votes are Labour actually gonna gain by this? Zero. Really, the answer is zero. I haven’t seen anybody defend or support this. It’s just handing votes over to Reform and the Torys.
Just sell it to America. Let Trump deal with it and get a few million in the Government’s Kitty instead of spunking away nine billion.
Thandoscovia on
As it often does, the Lords shows a lot of common sense is much more closely aligned to the will of the people than the Commons. No wonder Labour is out for blood
georgeleporgey on
After Venezuela there’s surely no way this incompetent bunch of cowards can continue to pretend “international law” and “the UN” actually mean anything or that the so called “soft power” we bank by surrendering our land and paying for it has any meaning.
Grow a pair and tell them to bugger off. Absolutely bloody useless lot.
Empty_Bell_1942 on
I think we gave away enough British soil after WW1 & 2 bankrupted the country.
veerKg_CSS_Geologist on
This is just normal considering the Tories and Lib Dems have a majority in the Lords. They added 4 amendments to the legislation, which now goes back to the House of Commons. Commons will strip those amendments out and pass it and then it’s done. Parliament at work.
DrMacAndDog on
Just remember we wouldn’t be in this position if it wasn’t for Johnson messing up as Foreign Secretary and us losing a UN vote. Of course now that there seems less need to comply with International Law maybe that has become irrelevant.
Gilesalford on
Can someone eli5 this for me? I’d never heard of it but was correct in thinking we own it and Mauritius wanted it back. But the article makes it sound like it would be us paying them to take it back?
mattsslug on
Love the wording in the article….”give it back” you cannot give back something that was never theirs, it’s calling giving it away.
BobMonkhaus on
Good. Even the Chagossians want a vote on it, since we never bothered to ask them what they wanted and they’ll not get anything out of it. All the money goes to Mauritius.
unbelievablydull82 on
Back in October Hillingdon council announced they were taking on hundreds of people from the chagos islands who were scared after the deal was announced, so they boarded a plane and walked into Hillingdon, declaring themselves homeless. Is the government going to pay the council to support hundreds more people? Unlikely, so now you have a group of people hundreds of miles from home, no idea what’s going on, and a council that is having to take money they are struggling to find away from people who live in the area. Genius.
Jensen1994 on
Good. But Mein Fuhrer Starmer will still be determined to sell us out and will respond by pushing to abolish the Lords as they are a break on his power.
ALifeWellLift on
It’s beyond me how this government will backtrack on almost anything except the worst deal possible for the country.
Gloomy_Republic_6054 on
The amount of people either blatently unaware or straight up ignoring this was a Tory plan set in motion, just to shit on two tier kier, is *astounding.* – Its as if you’ve all already forgot how the country ended up so fucked in the first place!
LSL3587 on
*The first defeat concerned proposals to lease Diego Garcia back from Mauritius for 99 years, at the cost of some £101m per year. An amendment was proposed that payments to Mauritius should stop if the Diego Garcia base could no longer be used. The government opposed it, but was defeated by eight votes.*
That seems a very reasonable change. Why is the Govt against it?
*The Lib Dems then dealt the government a second blow with an amendment proposing that Chagossians in the UK should get a referendum on the deal.*
Awkward to do – the Chagossians in Mauritius are not allowed by law to be against Mauritius having the Islands. And who cares what the people who lived there (for a time) and their descendants think? Democracy and self determination – who needs it?
*A third defeat came in the form of a Tory amendment that would force ministers to publish detailed costings of payments to Mauritius. Then the government faced a final defeat when the Lib Dems proposed that parliament be given oversight of spending linked to the treaty, allowing MPs to stop payments to Mauritius if it breaches the terms of the deal.*
Clear information of what the Govt is spending on all of this – no way. Not Democratic (oh wait, it is). But no, better to keep secret.
So Labour will use its majority in the Commons to overturn all of these. The Adults are in Charge. Good Government.
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Please let them lose any and every vote on this dumb treasonous nonsense
Uh oh, what know? Are Starmer and Hermer gonna spend even more money on this, that literally no one wants, outside of them?
But how will they look like if they walk away? All the soft power and “international law” would be gone out the window.
Starmer is like the meme with the dude with 2 buttons tho chose from and he has himself to blame.
Is this the “fuck the taxpayer” deal for no real reason?
“An amendment was proposed that payments to Mauritius should stop if the Diego Garcia base could no longer be used. The government opposed it, but was defeated by eight votes.”
Such common sense I wonder why the government opposed this one?
This is the weirdest hill for this government to die on, considering all the other big domestic items they u-turned on.
This has to be the stupidest fucking deal I have seen in my life time. Firstly, clearly pushed through by China and Russia to weaken Britain. Putin and Xi will be pissing themselves laughing that we are going through with it.
Would Putin, Xi, Trump… or any other major world leader actually take the International Court of Justic seriously and do as they say?
Secondly, Maritius themselves taking the absolute piss and demanding more money to be given them. As soon as they asked for money, that should have been it. Fuck off, you’re not getting them at all now you greedy cunts.
Thirdly – the original Chagos island residents dont want this lmfao.
I don’t know why Kier is so insistant on pushing this through. How many votes are Labour actually gonna gain by this? Zero. Really, the answer is zero. I haven’t seen anybody defend or support this. It’s just handing votes over to Reform and the Torys.
Just sell it to America. Let Trump deal with it and get a few million in the Government’s Kitty instead of spunking away nine billion.
As it often does, the Lords shows a lot of common sense is much more closely aligned to the will of the people than the Commons. No wonder Labour is out for blood
After Venezuela there’s surely no way this incompetent bunch of cowards can continue to pretend “international law” and “the UN” actually mean anything or that the so called “soft power” we bank by surrendering our land and paying for it has any meaning.
Grow a pair and tell them to bugger off. Absolutely bloody useless lot.
I think we gave away enough British soil after WW1 & 2 bankrupted the country.
This is just normal considering the Tories and Lib Dems have a majority in the Lords. They added 4 amendments to the legislation, which now goes back to the House of Commons. Commons will strip those amendments out and pass it and then it’s done. Parliament at work.
Just remember we wouldn’t be in this position if it wasn’t for Johnson messing up as Foreign Secretary and us losing a UN vote. Of course now that there seems less need to comply with International Law maybe that has become irrelevant.
Can someone eli5 this for me? I’d never heard of it but was correct in thinking we own it and Mauritius wanted it back. But the article makes it sound like it would be us paying them to take it back?
Love the wording in the article….”give it back” you cannot give back something that was never theirs, it’s calling giving it away.
Good. Even the Chagossians want a vote on it, since we never bothered to ask them what they wanted and they’ll not get anything out of it. All the money goes to Mauritius.
Back in October Hillingdon council announced they were taking on hundreds of people from the chagos islands who were scared after the deal was announced, so they boarded a plane and walked into Hillingdon, declaring themselves homeless. Is the government going to pay the council to support hundreds more people? Unlikely, so now you have a group of people hundreds of miles from home, no idea what’s going on, and a council that is having to take money they are struggling to find away from people who live in the area. Genius.
Good. But Mein Fuhrer Starmer will still be determined to sell us out and will respond by pushing to abolish the Lords as they are a break on his power.
It’s beyond me how this government will backtrack on almost anything except the worst deal possible for the country.
The amount of people either blatently unaware or straight up ignoring this was a Tory plan set in motion, just to shit on two tier kier, is *astounding.* – Its as if you’ve all already forgot how the country ended up so fucked in the first place!
*The first defeat concerned proposals to lease Diego Garcia back from Mauritius for 99 years, at the cost of some £101m per year. An amendment was proposed that payments to Mauritius should stop if the Diego Garcia base could no longer be used. The government opposed it, but was defeated by eight votes.*
That seems a very reasonable change. Why is the Govt against it?
*The Lib Dems then dealt the government a second blow with an amendment proposing that Chagossians in the UK should get a referendum on the deal.*
Awkward to do – the Chagossians in Mauritius are not allowed by law to be against Mauritius having the Islands. And who cares what the people who lived there (for a time) and their descendants think? Democracy and self determination – who needs it?
*A third defeat came in the form of a Tory amendment that would force ministers to publish detailed costings of payments to Mauritius. Then the government faced a final defeat when the Lib Dems proposed that parliament be given oversight of spending linked to the treaty, allowing MPs to stop payments to Mauritius if it breaches the terms of the deal.*
Clear information of what the Govt is spending on all of this – no way. Not Democratic (oh wait, it is). But no, better to keep secret.
So Labour will use its majority in the Commons to overturn all of these. The Adults are in Charge. Good Government.