Better to stop waiting. Putin only understands force. Stop Putin now, by overwhelming force.
Help those defending their homes and their lives by donating right now directly to Ukraine’s armed forces at [https://u24.gov.ua/](https://u24.gov.ua/)
CalmGreen2073 on
This was in November of 25?
_Hello_Hi_Hey_ on
Wow this is huge
rjk100 on
The war has to end first ….
Baldtazar on
Oh yes, another useful declaration
gpouliot on
I’m curious how this helps things now?
Even if Ukraine was willing to give up territory to end the war, this would mean that the moment the war ends, Russia gets French and UK troops on their doorstep. It also makes attacking Ukraine in the future less of an option for Russia because that would draw in France and the UK into the war.
I’m not saying that there’s no other option and they shouldn’t have done this, but at least in the short term wouldn’t this prolong the war?
ProductGuy48 on
Stumpy Putler will be big angry again
Ballad_13 on
What the US and NATO should have been signing along with Ukraine.
albalthi on
Sort of incentivizes Russia to not end the war, or to transition it into a low level conflict if Russia reaches the point where it can’t conduct offensives anymore.
Europe needs to grow a pair and start with deploying troops to guard the border with Belarus or man air defenses west of the Dnipro, something.
TrymWS on
Both the nuclear powers, that’s definitely a strong signal.
Wbino on
So brave….we should of stormed Normandy AFTER the war…it would of saved so many lives.
Tholian_Bed on
This gives me a respectable glimmer of hope.
If Ukraine says, this is just, if the people of Ukraine say, this we can work with, then I shall cheer. I shall finally cheer.
And then Ukraine and her friends shall start demanding justice for these crimes, with full voice.
low_flying_aircraft on
WHY NOT DEPLOY THEM NOW??
Jesus. I wish we (UK) would just grow some balls and actually fight. We used to be well up for a war.
m1j2p3 on
Do it now and kick the Russians out of Ukraine.
Electrical-Orange-38 on
Do it now, or there may not be a Ukraine after the war.
Professional-Link887 on
They could agree to put all of France’s strategic nuclear weapons in Ukraine “after the war” and nothing will happen.
LaughableIKR on
Russia is probably shitting itself. “We have (another) NATO Base right on our border!!”
Suck it, Russia. You can’t be trusted. Ever.
ZachMN on
Why wait? Send them now to garrison the western and northern parts of Ukraine, which would free up more Ukr forces to fight on the front lines.
LaurenzVonArabien on
So sorry, guys!
Honestly, it feels off that Germany wasn’t at the table for this. France and the UK stepping up together is a strong signal, no doubt. But Germany sitting on the sidelines again just leaves a gap.
I get the caution. I really do. Still, when it comes to shaping what comes after this war, presence matters. Decisions are being made, commitments are being shaped, and Germany could have helped steer that in a meaningful way.
Not sending troops and not signing on sends a message too. And I’m not sure it’s the one Germany should want to send right now. 🤷♂️
pichunb on
ELI5 how this is useful for the current war
happinesspro on
Ever have the feeling Zelenskyy leads a desperately frustrating life? Lots of offers of help that aren’t really all that helpful, but would be damn hard to call someone out on.
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Better to stop waiting. Putin only understands force. Stop Putin now, by overwhelming force.
Help those defending their homes and their lives by donating right now directly to Ukraine’s armed forces at [https://u24.gov.ua/](https://u24.gov.ua/)
This was in November of 25?
Wow this is huge
The war has to end first ….
Oh yes, another useful declaration
I’m curious how this helps things now?
Even if Ukraine was willing to give up territory to end the war, this would mean that the moment the war ends, Russia gets French and UK troops on their doorstep. It also makes attacking Ukraine in the future less of an option for Russia because that would draw in France and the UK into the war.
I’m not saying that there’s no other option and they shouldn’t have done this, but at least in the short term wouldn’t this prolong the war?
Stumpy Putler will be big angry again
What the US and NATO should have been signing along with Ukraine.
Sort of incentivizes Russia to not end the war, or to transition it into a low level conflict if Russia reaches the point where it can’t conduct offensives anymore.
Europe needs to grow a pair and start with deploying troops to guard the border with Belarus or man air defenses west of the Dnipro, something.
Both the nuclear powers, that’s definitely a strong signal.
So brave….we should of stormed Normandy AFTER the war…it would of saved so many lives.
This gives me a respectable glimmer of hope.
If Ukraine says, this is just, if the people of Ukraine say, this we can work with, then I shall cheer. I shall finally cheer.
And then Ukraine and her friends shall start demanding justice for these crimes, with full voice.
WHY NOT DEPLOY THEM NOW??
Jesus. I wish we (UK) would just grow some balls and actually fight. We used to be well up for a war.
Do it now and kick the Russians out of Ukraine.
Do it now, or there may not be a Ukraine after the war.
They could agree to put all of France’s strategic nuclear weapons in Ukraine “after the war” and nothing will happen.
Russia is probably shitting itself. “We have (another) NATO Base right on our border!!”
Suck it, Russia. You can’t be trusted. Ever.
Why wait? Send them now to garrison the western and northern parts of Ukraine, which would free up more Ukr forces to fight on the front lines.
So sorry, guys!
Honestly, it feels off that Germany wasn’t at the table for this. France and the UK stepping up together is a strong signal, no doubt. But Germany sitting on the sidelines again just leaves a gap.
I get the caution. I really do. Still, when it comes to shaping what comes after this war, presence matters. Decisions are being made, commitments are being shaped, and Germany could have helped steer that in a meaningful way.
Not sending troops and not signing on sends a message too. And I’m not sure it’s the one Germany should want to send right now. 🤷♂️
ELI5 how this is useful for the current war
Ever have the feeling Zelenskyy leads a desperately frustrating life? Lots of offers of help that aren’t really all that helpful, but would be damn hard to call someone out on.