If SteamOS doesn’t show up we are skipping and waiting for win12. I feel like this is winME days.Â
AnalogAficionado on
Not a surprise. Every major update produces more and more overhead. I can confirm that in task manager.
uncubeus on
Unsupported hardware on w11 on the test, so pretty much meaningless. Also w11 is dogshit.
McCree114 on
Yeah no shit. File explorer FUCKING LAGS when right-clicking to bring up the menus. WTF were they thinking vibe coding this shit?!
irritatedellipses on
> In case you’re wondering, all six laptops used in the tests were the exact same model: Lenovo ThinkPad X220 equipped with an Intel Core i5-2520M CPU, 8GB of RAM, and a 256GB mechanical hard disk. The device does not officially support Windows 11, which likely contributed to its poor showing.
As I said last time this was posted, interesting methodology.
uwwuwwu on
Since forever if I accidentally forget to save something I’m working on auto save keeps it! Even on my Mac. But windows 11????? Auto save is NOT working like word 2007 DONT FORGET TO SAVE
Lost-Transitions on
This is what happens when you keep firing half your work force and lose institutional knowledge chasing short term shareholder value.
Your products turn to shit.
MikeSifoda on
Wait until you benchmark against Linux
gornFlamout on
Recording telemetry on every mouse click and image doesn’t help, but sending it to Microsoft kills everything.
cctchristensen on
This youtuber spent a lot of time to conduct a lot of tests that gathered pretty useless information. Not saying W11 is perfect (cough, file explorer,) but I thought the general ram usage metrics were killed off long ago. Come on people, if I have the ram, I want to use it to boost performance. Also, toss out anything appliction specific. Earlier versions of windows ran apps together like a no questions-asked swingers party. W11 practically creates a virtual machine of itself to run an app for the added security (which is amazing but terrible for performance.)
muftak3 on
My windows 11 runs like shit. Even after a clean install. Feels like explorer needs fixing. Constantly having to click the same folder, waiting 20 seconds and finally 6 of the same opens. Constantly having to restart explorer.
x86_64_ on
2nd gen i5 and a mechanical drive. Using **15 year old hardware** for modern OS benchmarking.
I don’t know how they overlooked the Cyrix MMX line and the Quantum Fireball drive /s
slickeddie on
I hate windows so much I switched to Linux. That being said, the machine tested should be a machine that supports Windows 11 so the tests are fair.
A new OS running on old hardware usually runs worse than an older OS running on older hardware.
SacredGeometry9 on
I just made the switch to Linux. It’s not perfect, and occasionally I fuck something up playing around with the terminal, but it just runs so much better.
It’s also *simpler*, which I was not expecting. There’s nothing on it that I didn’t put there. It’s been really nice. My entire Steam library runs pretty well off it too (w/ Proton), which was also a surprise.
No_Pop1972 on
Testing Win11 on hardware that does not officially support it and then acting surprised feels a bit dishonest. Ik there is Plenty to criticize about Win11, but this setup muddies the results .
feuwbar on
My question is: so what?
I’ve used every version of Windows in my work since Windows was just a layer that ran on top of DOS as a launcher. A long time ago every incremental hardware upgrade mattered because performance really sucked, but it’s been years since the hardware far outstripped the software load. Even my middling Dell work laptop and Lenovo personal laptop doesn’t have an issue running Windows 11. So… what’s the issue here? Is this a real problem regular people have?
null-interlinked on
On a very outdated system that is more than 10 years old.
uberprodude on
How else do you expect them to run all of their surveillance software in the background while any hardware upgrades that could offset the performance dip are instead being used in AI data centers Microsoft either owns or funds?
If you have the knowhow or the ability to learn, just switch to Linux. It isn’t easy, but it’s easier than you’d expect
WooShell on
This must be the famous “30% of all new code is AI generated” fallout that Satya Nadella is so proud of.
epicfailphx on
Maybe someone should show management what AI slop coding does to performance. Or maybe this is a feature and not a bug to sell Windows 12/Windows 2027.
lovescoffee on
Chill out peeps! microslop is just trying to upload all your data to the cloud in the background!
Emergency_Link7328 on
Older software needs less resources than modern software.
More news at 11, when we will find out if 90s games run faster than 2020+ games on modern hardware.
veirceb on
When people who don’t care much about techs are talking about switching to linux you know how awful windows is right now.
CNDW on
Anecdotally, my PC got a LOT faster after I installed Linux. Like a very noticeable amount, and my PC is fairly new with above average specs. Windows 11 sucks.
Familiar-Range9014 on
And we’re stuck with it unless we change to Linux
jeanlemotan on
Unfortunately in gamedev we’re stuck with windows…
speckledlobster on
Everything is enshittification now. This week I’ve been having a lot of crashes on my work computer, and the culprit seems to be some sort of process related to Microsoft edge? I don’t really use that browser and don’t have it open but there’s this webview2 process that runs in the background that occasionally throws errors somehow.
I’d like to think the market is prime for some new entrants who could show these legacy companies up, but the barriers to entry are impossibly high, and even if one did break through they’d just get bought out.
rusticatedrust on
Can’t forget the surveillance benchmark. It’s doing gangbusters on that one.
wisepeasant on
They are abandoning the concepts that made this OS successful in the first place and replacing all of it with apps, AI, and advertisements. All in the spirit of making as much money as possible. Enterprise customers won’t deal with this shit forever.
tdowg1 on
Just using it for a few minutes could tell you the same. But WaAAaAHhahAHA ThAtS NoT MeAsUrAbLE!!!!!!
Appropriate-Glove405 on
Even more telling. A slower, less capable CPU w Linux and no GPU loads and runs a complex graphically intense virtual tabletop UI faster than a more powerful (4 newer cores w Nvidia GPU vs 2 older cores) windows 11 laptop.
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If SteamOS doesn’t show up we are skipping and waiting for win12. I feel like this is winME days.Â
Not a surprise. Every major update produces more and more overhead. I can confirm that in task manager.
Unsupported hardware on w11 on the test, so pretty much meaningless. Also w11 is dogshit.
Yeah no shit. File explorer FUCKING LAGS when right-clicking to bring up the menus. WTF were they thinking vibe coding this shit?!
> In case you’re wondering, all six laptops used in the tests were the exact same model: Lenovo ThinkPad X220 equipped with an Intel Core i5-2520M CPU, 8GB of RAM, and a 256GB mechanical hard disk. The device does not officially support Windows 11, which likely contributed to its poor showing.
As I said last time this was posted, interesting methodology.
Since forever if I accidentally forget to save something I’m working on auto save keeps it! Even on my Mac. But windows 11????? Auto save is NOT working like word 2007 DONT FORGET TO SAVE
This is what happens when you keep firing half your work force and lose institutional knowledge chasing short term shareholder value.
Your products turn to shit.
Wait until you benchmark against Linux
Recording telemetry on every mouse click and image doesn’t help, but sending it to Microsoft kills everything.
This youtuber spent a lot of time to conduct a lot of tests that gathered pretty useless information. Not saying W11 is perfect (cough, file explorer,) but I thought the general ram usage metrics were killed off long ago. Come on people, if I have the ram, I want to use it to boost performance. Also, toss out anything appliction specific. Earlier versions of windows ran apps together like a no questions-asked swingers party. W11 practically creates a virtual machine of itself to run an app for the added security (which is amazing but terrible for performance.)
My windows 11 runs like shit. Even after a clean install. Feels like explorer needs fixing. Constantly having to click the same folder, waiting 20 seconds and finally 6 of the same opens. Constantly having to restart explorer.
2nd gen i5 and a mechanical drive. Using **15 year old hardware** for modern OS benchmarking.
I don’t know how they overlooked the Cyrix MMX line and the Quantum Fireball drive /s
I hate windows so much I switched to Linux. That being said, the machine tested should be a machine that supports Windows 11 so the tests are fair.
A new OS running on old hardware usually runs worse than an older OS running on older hardware.
I just made the switch to Linux. It’s not perfect, and occasionally I fuck something up playing around with the terminal, but it just runs so much better.
It’s also *simpler*, which I was not expecting. There’s nothing on it that I didn’t put there. It’s been really nice. My entire Steam library runs pretty well off it too (w/ Proton), which was also a surprise.
Testing Win11 on hardware that does not officially support it and then acting surprised feels a bit dishonest. Ik there is Plenty to criticize about Win11, but this setup muddies the results .
My question is: so what?
I’ve used every version of Windows in my work since Windows was just a layer that ran on top of DOS as a launcher. A long time ago every incremental hardware upgrade mattered because performance really sucked, but it’s been years since the hardware far outstripped the software load. Even my middling Dell work laptop and Lenovo personal laptop doesn’t have an issue running Windows 11. So… what’s the issue here? Is this a real problem regular people have?
On a very outdated system that is more than 10 years old.
How else do you expect them to run all of their surveillance software in the background while any hardware upgrades that could offset the performance dip are instead being used in AI data centers Microsoft either owns or funds?
If you have the knowhow or the ability to learn, just switch to Linux. It isn’t easy, but it’s easier than you’d expect
This must be the famous “30% of all new code is AI generated” fallout that Satya Nadella is so proud of.
Maybe someone should show management what AI slop coding does to performance. Or maybe this is a feature and not a bug to sell Windows 12/Windows 2027.
Chill out peeps! microslop is just trying to upload all your data to the cloud in the background!
Older software needs less resources than modern software.
More news at 11, when we will find out if 90s games run faster than 2020+ games on modern hardware.
When people who don’t care much about techs are talking about switching to linux you know how awful windows is right now.
Anecdotally, my PC got a LOT faster after I installed Linux. Like a very noticeable amount, and my PC is fairly new with above average specs. Windows 11 sucks.
And we’re stuck with it unless we change to Linux
Unfortunately in gamedev we’re stuck with windows…
Everything is enshittification now. This week I’ve been having a lot of crashes on my work computer, and the culprit seems to be some sort of process related to Microsoft edge? I don’t really use that browser and don’t have it open but there’s this webview2 process that runs in the background that occasionally throws errors somehow.
I’d like to think the market is prime for some new entrants who could show these legacy companies up, but the barriers to entry are impossibly high, and even if one did break through they’d just get bought out.
Can’t forget the surveillance benchmark. It’s doing gangbusters on that one.
They are abandoning the concepts that made this OS successful in the first place and replacing all of it with apps, AI, and advertisements. All in the spirit of making as much money as possible. Enterprise customers won’t deal with this shit forever.
Just using it for a few minutes could tell you the same. But WaAAaAHhahAHA ThAtS NoT MeAsUrAbLE!!!!!!
Even more telling. A slower, less capable CPU w Linux and no GPU loads and runs a complex graphically intense virtual tabletop UI faster than a more powerful (4 newer cores w Nvidia GPU vs 2 older cores) windows 11 laptop.
Windows 11 is the biggest windows pig ever!
Curry code is crap.
Microslops sloppy vibe coders at work. Â