He tried to make it population-balanced, not capital-balanced. That’s why the green is so small. Everything to the East of Ukraine should be green.
ParkPlane2088 on
Majority of the recent conflicts are in the disputed area, this tells you a lot !
TestTheTrilby on
As per Big Brother…
Aegeansunset12 on
This book is lame. I can’t read his leftist circlejerk, everything it says became so mainstream that the book itself is unreadable and a big ass cliche
juliuspepperwoodchi on
We’ve always been at war with Eastasia.
KGray2000 on
Not to be pedentic but I think there are some errors in this map
Central Asia (the stan countries) would be part of Euroasia, these were part of the Soviet Union and the book says that Euroasia encompassed all of the former Soviet Union plus the rest of Europe minus the British Isles
India is also hinted heavily at being in the disputed zone. Julia mentions at one point there being a lot of tea available so Oceania must have made advances in India and the news bulletins repeatedly talk about “The Malabar Front” with Malabar being a region in India. This matters because its revealed that the superpowers take great effort not to invade each others core territory and limit direct fighting to the disputed zones so given how much fighting is clearly taking place in India I doubt it was part of Eastasia proper
Just my two cents
CucumberWisdom on
The disputed areas must be the only free areas
Week-Natural on
Very timely. Was exactly my thought on what is happening.
AppropriateAd5701 on
Is kazakhstan only independent nation, not being part of any empire?
Gandalfthebran on
Only if East and South Asia would economically unite like this. Make Asia Great Again.
Doomst3err on
This is inaccurate. Most of India if not all would be contested
After-Trifle-1437 on
We’re rapidly getting to this exact place.
World is divided up into three spheres of influence – All ruled by the same capitalist interests and faking being at war to prevent dissent within.
trupawlak on
Alternative map (and interesting take on 1984 setting):
A popular theory says that the three superstates are governmental propaganda, and Oceania just controls the UK
N1qIl_MoureB0yzs on
Is this map even sensical? I’d be considered Eastasian in this universe, while my Indonesian neighbors would be an Oceanian….
VeryBoringGhost on
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Coil17 on
No ice caps, damn, quite a prediction
Darkkujo on
I’d say Trump is getting his ideas from this book except I don’t think he reads anything without pictures in it.
Klutzy_Ad_3436 on
somehow looks like TNO? aside the Asia-Indo-Pacific part.
gabeguy369 on
Do you think Engsoc is a lie? Like there’s nothing English about it? Like everything is run from America and telling Brits that the ideology is named after England is just a way to make them think that they’re the ones in charge? I’ve had this question for a while now lol
Dmtr884213 on
Fun fact – one of the best Russian poets of 20th century – Alexander Blok (he is my favourite poet, btw) was a part of the movement called “Eurasianists” (Евразийцы) – they thought that the whole continent should be united under the rule of Russia
I’m of the mind that Airship one is just isolated dictatorship Britain. I don’t think any of the things in the book are true.
Emily_HB on
Why is Kazakhstan extra-disputed ðŸ˜
call-me_jorge on
There’s axtually a ver interesting theory that says INGSOC might actully control only the British isles, or only great Britain, heck maybe they only control London!. Since they never go out of the city, the reader doesn’t hqve an actual clue everything Ingsoc says it’s real, so as far everyone’s concerned they might only control a small region of England. This is a theory of course, i haven’t read the book throughly so please anyone feel free to correct me if i’m wrong
wq1119 on
There it is, the map that got me into cartography and alternate history map-making.
civver3 on
Where’s the quadrilateral described in the book? This is just real-world borders.
FanOk6716 on
Looks like Trump gets Greenland then
kirsiuu on
In one part of book Julia mentions that she found tea in the party office, which as she said, means Oceania probably conquered India
Lebowski304 on
Literally 1984
_lyniv on
1984=2084
Common_Director_2201 on
Great. Really great. Dude spoiled all the fun.
Fluffy_Whale0 on
Why the fuck does Eurasia have Iceland
FairNeedleworker9722 on
We’re getting there.Â
EdBenes on
Just realized this is essentially what they used for the world map in code geass
Careful_Trouble_8 on
Im curious on how tf Iceland is Eurasia and UK managed to still be INSOC and not also Eurasia
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*Waves from Airstrip one*
He tried to make it population-balanced, not capital-balanced. That’s why the green is so small. Everything to the East of Ukraine should be green.
Majority of the recent conflicts are in the disputed area, this tells you a lot !
As per Big Brother…
This book is lame. I can’t read his leftist circlejerk, everything it says became so mainstream that the book itself is unreadable and a big ass cliche
We’ve always been at war with Eastasia.
Not to be pedentic but I think there are some errors in this map
Central Asia (the stan countries) would be part of Euroasia, these were part of the Soviet Union and the book says that Euroasia encompassed all of the former Soviet Union plus the rest of Europe minus the British Isles
India is also hinted heavily at being in the disputed zone. Julia mentions at one point there being a lot of tea available so Oceania must have made advances in India and the news bulletins repeatedly talk about “The Malabar Front” with Malabar being a region in India. This matters because its revealed that the superpowers take great effort not to invade each others core territory and limit direct fighting to the disputed zones so given how much fighting is clearly taking place in India I doubt it was part of Eastasia proper
Just my two cents
The disputed areas must be the only free areas
Very timely. Was exactly my thought on what is happening.
Is kazakhstan only independent nation, not being part of any empire?
Only if East and South Asia would economically unite like this. Make Asia Great Again.
This is inaccurate. Most of India if not all would be contested
We’re rapidly getting to this exact place.
World is divided up into three spheres of influence – All ruled by the same capitalist interests and faking being at war to prevent dissent within.
Alternative map (and interesting take on 1984 setting):
https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternateHistory/comments/1oohsij/1984_but_big_brother_lied/#lightbox
Literally 1984
Oceania is still the best place to live 😂
Whats the black and greyzones?
where are all my perfectly straight borders
A popular theory says that the three superstates are governmental propaganda, and Oceania just controls the UK
Is this map even sensical? I’d be considered Eastasian in this universe, while my Indonesian neighbors would be an Oceanian….
*Comment removed by the Thought Police.*
No ice caps, damn, quite a prediction
I’d say Trump is getting his ideas from this book except I don’t think he reads anything without pictures in it.
somehow looks like TNO? aside the Asia-Indo-Pacific part.
Do you think Engsoc is a lie? Like there’s nothing English about it? Like everything is run from America and telling Brits that the ideology is named after England is just a way to make them think that they’re the ones in charge? I’ve had this question for a while now lol
Fun fact – one of the best Russian poets of 20th century – Alexander Blok (he is my favourite poet, btw) was a part of the movement called “Eurasianists” (Евразийцы) – they thought that the whole continent should be united under the rule of Russia
this one illustates it the best: [The Scythians](https://ruverses.com/alexander-blok/scythians/)
I’m of the mind that Airship one is just isolated dictatorship Britain. I don’t think any of the things in the book are true.
Why is Kazakhstan extra-disputed ðŸ˜
There’s axtually a ver interesting theory that says INGSOC might actully control only the British isles, or only great Britain, heck maybe they only control London!. Since they never go out of the city, the reader doesn’t hqve an actual clue everything Ingsoc says it’s real, so as far everyone’s concerned they might only control a small region of England. This is a theory of course, i haven’t read the book throughly so please anyone feel free to correct me if i’m wrong
There it is, the map that got me into cartography and alternate history map-making.
Where’s the quadrilateral described in the book? This is just real-world borders.
Looks like Trump gets Greenland then
In one part of book Julia mentions that she found tea in the party office, which as she said, means Oceania probably conquered India
Literally 1984
1984=2084
Great. Really great. Dude spoiled all the fun.
Why the fuck does Eurasia have Iceland
We’re getting there.Â
Just realized this is essentially what they used for the world map in code geass
Im curious on how tf Iceland is Eurasia and UK managed to still be INSOC and not also Eurasia