This is dangerous , what if she was hiding from a violent family and partner and you just exposed her.
Thousandthvisitor on
Smart glasses are fucking sinister. Final steps to a fully monitored panopticon society
If they become normalised as the tech companies want, as soon as you leave the house everything you do could be stored forever. I dont like that world
Canisa on
“Smart glasses, with Grok integration to automatically nudify every woman and girl you see in real time coming soon!”
bristolian_babber on
All I want is the sunglasses with built in headphones, no cameras or smart lenses or anything else.
Winterbliss on
Tik Tok seriously needs to go away. It does nothing useful for society than make people act like prats.
Sudden-Conclusion931 on
Its frightening how much the tech bros have been able to shift the paradigm on this. It was only about 10-11 years ago that Google Glass came out. The reaction then was that they were immediately banned in multiple public venues, people wearing them in bars and other places people had an expectation of privacy were assaulted, and the product was discontinued after about 18 months. And now here we are 10 years later and Meta have come up with a solution: “we’ll just make them look like normal glasses so no one knows their being recorded!” And legislators and public alike just seem to be sitting there going “oh ok. Sweet”. Scary.
PJBuzz on
It’s a legally recorded interaction posted legally onto the internet, and the audience that form the toxicity behind this are not the responsibility of the uploader. Whole thing is creepy AF but really don’t see an easy solution from a legislation POV.
I guess the issue with this is that any change in the law to protect individuals would cause problems with surveillance without a distinct government/police exemption.
Best solution I can think of is going after monetisation. I.e. you have to gain individual consent to monotise content where the main subject is another individual or group of individuals.
Edit – down votes without anyone explaining why my comment is not useful to the conversation? Stay classy reddit.
PrimaryCabbage on
Time to start calling them pedo glasses as the nickname which should ruin the marketing of this pervy invention.
SnooGiraff on
It’s not like we have cctv everywhere and the police now using facial recognition technology
notleave_eu on
Now think what the pervs who don’t post online are doing and watching.
Also, is this even legal? Recording a conversation for self-protection or memory is legal but sharing or publishing it without consent is another matter in the UK?
No-Patience6078 on
We are all recorded by public cameras most places we go. Being recorded isn’t the problem its individuals putting it on social media for everyone to watch and comment on which bring the problems we dont need to stop the recording just the idiots putting it on social media
TheJenniferLopez on
I feel like this is more of a disconnect between Internet culture and real life that the general public still hasn’t really yet caught up with.
ImageRevolutionary43 on
There has been a weird trend of people that will intentionally target,approach and film women that are clearly minding their own business.And it is extremely creepy. They will label it as “rizzing up random women”
More new laws need to be implemented and social media platforms should demonetize and remove content that contains voyeurism or content that will lead to harassment and abuse.
YinkYinkYinken on
These glasses were always going to be used to humiliate and shame women.
The ads show people at fashion shows or art galleries, but the reality is wretched incels are the target market for this.
I bet Andrew Tate has a pair.
KeyPresentation4981 on
I don’t really take an issue with being filmed in public so personally not exactly worried about smart glasses and being recorded without my knowledge, probably happens a lot anyway.
Saying that, I’m also not a woman and I’m not exactly the sort of person who would get targeted for abuse, if they are being abused then we should most definitely be catching up exsisting laws to punish people who do abuse them, or ban them outright.
pjs-1987 on
The time between “new technology developed” and “new technology co-opted by creepy weirdos” is rapidly approaching zero.
RecentTwo544 on
The problem with this is it’s putting blame onto smart glasses when that isn’t the issue.
I personally want smart glasses to become normal enough you can own a pair without seeming odd (I would probably have been the same in the 90s, wanting to own a mobile but waiting until they were ubiquitous) as they have loads of great uses.
Imagine walking somewhere and seeing directions right in your glasses, looking at a row of restaurants and being able to see the menu, whether they have good reviews, or important for emetophobics like me, their food hygiene rating. Looking at a vista and seeing the names of mountains or geographical features or distant towns, looking at the stars and seeing their names and constellations. Or at work looking at a lighting rig or video wall and seeing all the patch numbers and addresses at a glance. The list goes on and on.
Fact is, these weirdos can (and do) film women using phones, something we all own already, They are the problem, and blaming the glasses just shifts blame from them to the technology.
Why-R-Your-Eyes-Red on
This is so weird. You wouldn’t ban most other technologies that are meant for good, but can and do, cause harm by sinister people.. the technology is great and will make everyone’s lives easier in the future.
Weirdos have been filming people for a long time with covert cameras, stalkers using social media, CCTV everywhere.
Be more concerned about the gov currently overarching our Internet use as adults. Start of a downward spiral.
CrispoClumbo on
Christ almighty, we really are on a one way train to Black Mirror.
Remember how people appeared when they were “blocked”, their face was just fuzzed out. I want that, if we’re going full on facial recognition, I want to proactively be blocked for every creepy sex pest secretly filming interactions.
WillWatsof on
Honestly, I think we’re viewing this from the wrong direction. People worried about what if women can be filmed secretly, while legitimate to be concerned about, are missing that that happens already. Women get harassed like this all the time with or without this tech.
Think about it from the other side. This tech could be employed by women to make themselves more safe. To provide evidence when they’re harassed and assaulted. I think there’s benefits to be had here.
Of course the real cultural shift has to come from the police, because we see time and time again that a woman having evidence doesn’t mean they’ll do anything about it.
Low-Understanding119 on
I will happily take a charge for property destruction if I caught someone covertly filing me with these.
sjw_7 on
Its perfectly legal to film in public and if you are out and about on Brighton seafront its safe to assume its the kind of place you are going to end up on film or in a photo.
But
There is also the expectation of privacy. Being caught in the background of someone’s shot of something else is one thing. Having what you think its a private conversation with someone who is covertly filming you and then posting it online is very different.
Doing this and posting it should mean someone is going to get in trouble.
Questjon on
The guy secretly filming the interaction for content is a creep but the real weirdos are the millions of people watching such shitty content, much like the weirdos who read celebrity magazines knowing how invasive the paparazzi are.
I’m not trying to scapegoat the creep filming but it’s wrong to focus on the camera technology when the real issue is the social media platforms allowing this behaviour (and all the other anti-social behaviours) to be profitable.
Warm-Substance-9754 on
The glasses or the fact that he recorded aren’t even the problem here. The real problem is him posting the video without her consent
Professional_Pea2937 on
It should just be illegal to profit from it, so ad based revenue on socials. You can’t ban people from filming in public but obviously if you are the focus of the video and are unwittingly making someone else money and fame then you should be entitled to that ad revenue as a minimum, with the preference being banning such content.
Hypercip on
You must be such a lame and insecure dude to approach women this way then post the video online. Bloody hell. These glasses should not record without a visible light, like you have on many other devices.
LomondDad on
we need to have harsh penalties for the weirdos that are found to abuse them not out right banning them because I imagine they’re great for blind and near sightted people to navigate and read stuff for them or for use if you go to a foreign country for translating stuff
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This is dangerous , what if she was hiding from a violent family and partner and you just exposed her.
Smart glasses are fucking sinister. Final steps to a fully monitored panopticon society
If they become normalised as the tech companies want, as soon as you leave the house everything you do could be stored forever. I dont like that world
“Smart glasses, with Grok integration to automatically nudify every woman and girl you see in real time coming soon!”
All I want is the sunglasses with built in headphones, no cameras or smart lenses or anything else.
Tik Tok seriously needs to go away. It does nothing useful for society than make people act like prats.
Its frightening how much the tech bros have been able to shift the paradigm on this. It was only about 10-11 years ago that Google Glass came out. The reaction then was that they were immediately banned in multiple public venues, people wearing them in bars and other places people had an expectation of privacy were assaulted, and the product was discontinued after about 18 months. And now here we are 10 years later and Meta have come up with a solution: “we’ll just make them look like normal glasses so no one knows their being recorded!” And legislators and public alike just seem to be sitting there going “oh ok. Sweet”. Scary.
It’s a legally recorded interaction posted legally onto the internet, and the audience that form the toxicity behind this are not the responsibility of the uploader. Whole thing is creepy AF but really don’t see an easy solution from a legislation POV.
I guess the issue with this is that any change in the law to protect individuals would cause problems with surveillance without a distinct government/police exemption.
Best solution I can think of is going after monetisation. I.e. you have to gain individual consent to monotise content where the main subject is another individual or group of individuals.
Edit – down votes without anyone explaining why my comment is not useful to the conversation? Stay classy reddit.
Time to start calling them pedo glasses as the nickname which should ruin the marketing of this pervy invention.
It’s not like we have cctv everywhere and the police now using facial recognition technology
Now think what the pervs who don’t post online are doing and watching.
Also, is this even legal? Recording a conversation for self-protection or memory is legal but sharing or publishing it without consent is another matter in the UK?
We are all recorded by public cameras most places we go. Being recorded isn’t the problem its individuals putting it on social media for everyone to watch and comment on which bring the problems we dont need to stop the recording just the idiots putting it on social media
I feel like this is more of a disconnect between Internet culture and real life that the general public still hasn’t really yet caught up with.
There has been a weird trend of people that will intentionally target,approach and film women that are clearly minding their own business.And it is extremely creepy. They will label it as “rizzing up random women”
More new laws need to be implemented and social media platforms should demonetize and remove content that contains voyeurism or content that will lead to harassment and abuse.
These glasses were always going to be used to humiliate and shame women.
The ads show people at fashion shows or art galleries, but the reality is wretched incels are the target market for this.
I bet Andrew Tate has a pair.
I don’t really take an issue with being filmed in public so personally not exactly worried about smart glasses and being recorded without my knowledge, probably happens a lot anyway.
Saying that, I’m also not a woman and I’m not exactly the sort of person who would get targeted for abuse, if they are being abused then we should most definitely be catching up exsisting laws to punish people who do abuse them, or ban them outright.
The time between “new technology developed” and “new technology co-opted by creepy weirdos” is rapidly approaching zero.
The problem with this is it’s putting blame onto smart glasses when that isn’t the issue.
I personally want smart glasses to become normal enough you can own a pair without seeming odd (I would probably have been the same in the 90s, wanting to own a mobile but waiting until they were ubiquitous) as they have loads of great uses.
Imagine walking somewhere and seeing directions right in your glasses, looking at a row of restaurants and being able to see the menu, whether they have good reviews, or important for emetophobics like me, their food hygiene rating. Looking at a vista and seeing the names of mountains or geographical features or distant towns, looking at the stars and seeing their names and constellations. Or at work looking at a lighting rig or video wall and seeing all the patch numbers and addresses at a glance. The list goes on and on.
Fact is, these weirdos can (and do) film women using phones, something we all own already, They are the problem, and blaming the glasses just shifts blame from them to the technology.
This is so weird. You wouldn’t ban most other technologies that are meant for good, but can and do, cause harm by sinister people.. the technology is great and will make everyone’s lives easier in the future.
Weirdos have been filming people for a long time with covert cameras, stalkers using social media, CCTV everywhere.
Be more concerned about the gov currently overarching our Internet use as adults. Start of a downward spiral.
Christ almighty, we really are on a one way train to Black Mirror.
Remember how people appeared when they were “blocked”, their face was just fuzzed out. I want that, if we’re going full on facial recognition, I want to proactively be blocked for every creepy sex pest secretly filming interactions.
Honestly, I think we’re viewing this from the wrong direction. People worried about what if women can be filmed secretly, while legitimate to be concerned about, are missing that that happens already. Women get harassed like this all the time with or without this tech.
Think about it from the other side. This tech could be employed by women to make themselves more safe. To provide evidence when they’re harassed and assaulted. I think there’s benefits to be had here.
Of course the real cultural shift has to come from the police, because we see time and time again that a woman having evidence doesn’t mean they’ll do anything about it.
I will happily take a charge for property destruction if I caught someone covertly filing me with these.
Its perfectly legal to film in public and if you are out and about on Brighton seafront its safe to assume its the kind of place you are going to end up on film or in a photo.
But
There is also the expectation of privacy. Being caught in the background of someone’s shot of something else is one thing. Having what you think its a private conversation with someone who is covertly filming you and then posting it online is very different.
Doing this and posting it should mean someone is going to get in trouble.
The guy secretly filming the interaction for content is a creep but the real weirdos are the millions of people watching such shitty content, much like the weirdos who read celebrity magazines knowing how invasive the paparazzi are.
I’m not trying to scapegoat the creep filming but it’s wrong to focus on the camera technology when the real issue is the social media platforms allowing this behaviour (and all the other anti-social behaviours) to be profitable.
The glasses or the fact that he recorded aren’t even the problem here. The real problem is him posting the video without her consent
It should just be illegal to profit from it, so ad based revenue on socials. You can’t ban people from filming in public but obviously if you are the focus of the video and are unwittingly making someone else money and fame then you should be entitled to that ad revenue as a minimum, with the preference being banning such content.
You must be such a lame and insecure dude to approach women this way then post the video online. Bloody hell. These glasses should not record without a visible light, like you have on many other devices.
we need to have harsh penalties for the weirdos that are found to abuse them not out right banning them because I imagine they’re great for blind and near sightted people to navigate and read stuff for them or for use if you go to a foreign country for translating stuff