A concurrent sentence, so absolutely no consequences whatsoever. Sure there’s a good chance the demented brute will never be released, but it’s just another example of the pathetic sentencing we have in this country.
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From the article: “….Bravery, who has to be supervised by three members of staff at all times,…” This guy is off-the-charts dangerous, even by prison standards.
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What do we do with someone who is likely never going to be a safe member of the community? I guess its life in hospital prison, with limited freedoms.
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Stick him in a padded cell. If he’s hell bent on hurting himself or others. Three members of staff must be with him at all times? What a waste of man power.
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No one is mentioning this, but this guy is very, very autistic.
That’s not an excuse, but people are making out that this guy is pure evil or something.
In reality, his brain is clearly not remotely coping in society or able to fit in with it.
He is demonstrating very extreme, violent and dangerous behaviour and everyone needs to be protected from him
But let’s not pretend that his brain is like everyone else’s and he’s just fundamentally bad. His brain is clearly nothing like normal, and clearly not like most with autism either. Very extreme
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Lifetime in a very secure medical facility is the only place suitable for him.
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15 years for throwing a child from a balcony.
I mean I suppose these things are hard to quantify but what?
*“In the next few months I’ve got it in my head I’ve got to kill somebody,” he could be heard saying, describing his urge to push someone off a building in central London.*
*“It could be the Shard, it could be anything just as long as it’s a high thing and we can go up and visit it and then push somebody off it and I know for a fact they’ll die from falling from a hundred feet.”*
And
*”The court heard he had planned the offence “well in advance” and researched the easiest way to kill someone.*
*Ms Heer said Bravery had conducted a variety of searches including, “are you guaranteed to escape prison if you have autism?”, “what are the chances of death if you push into the River Thames?” and a web page entitled “how to get away with rape”.*”
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I think I’m starting to go right off this guy, there’s something about him that I’m just not keen on.
It gives some insight for those who have only heard of this case via news reports and online gossip.
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From the article:
>At around 9.30 at night, Mr Bravery asked to go to the toilet. After he used the bathroom, he attempted to climb a ledge and throw himself from it.
It implies he was attempting to commit suicide and the nurses were attacked while trying to stop him.
I’m not saying he is blameless, but it isn’t as if he was just sitting in the room and decided to attack two nurses for the hell of it. He was presumably in a very bad mental state already, to the extent that he was trying to seriously harm himself.
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A concurrent sentence, so absolutely no consequences whatsoever. Sure there’s a good chance the demented brute will never be released, but it’s just another example of the pathetic sentencing we have in this country.
From the article: “….Bravery, who has to be supervised by three members of staff at all times,…” This guy is off-the-charts dangerous, even by prison standards.
What do we do with someone who is likely never going to be a safe member of the community? I guess its life in hospital prison, with limited freedoms.
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Stick him in a padded cell. If he’s hell bent on hurting himself or others. Three members of staff must be with him at all times? What a waste of man power.
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No one is mentioning this, but this guy is very, very autistic.
That’s not an excuse, but people are making out that this guy is pure evil or something.
In reality, his brain is clearly not remotely coping in society or able to fit in with it.
He is demonstrating very extreme, violent and dangerous behaviour and everyone needs to be protected from him
But let’s not pretend that his brain is like everyone else’s and he’s just fundamentally bad. His brain is clearly nothing like normal, and clearly not like most with autism either. Very extreme
Lifetime in a very secure medical facility is the only place suitable for him.
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15 years for throwing a child from a balcony.
I mean I suppose these things are hard to quantify but what?
Some background to the original case [here](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/jonty-bravery-jailed-attempted-murder-boy-tate-modern-a9587086.html).
*”A recording,* [*taken by one of Bravery’s care workers in autumn 2018,*](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tate-modern-attack-boy-jonty-bravery-plan-recorded-tape-carers-a9322841.html) *suggested opportunities to stop the attack were missed.*
*“In the next few months I’ve got it in my head I’ve got to kill somebody,” he could be heard saying, describing his urge to push someone off a building in central London.*
*“It could be the Shard, it could be anything just as long as it’s a high thing and we can go up and visit it and then push somebody off it and I know for a fact they’ll die from falling from a hundred feet.”*
And
*”The court heard he had planned the offence “well in advance” and researched the easiest way to kill someone.*
*Ms Heer said Bravery had conducted a variety of searches including, “are you guaranteed to escape prison if you have autism?”, “what are the chances of death if you push into the River Thames?” and a web page entitled “how to get away with rape”.*”
I think I’m starting to go right off this guy, there’s something about him that I’m just not keen on.
If anyone is interested, the serious case review commissioned when he tried to kill the child at Tate is [here](https://share.google/0bg7jVhjLAUjmlYPb)
It gives some insight for those who have only heard of this case via news reports and online gossip.
From the article:
>At around 9.30 at night, Mr Bravery asked to go to the toilet. After he used the bathroom, he attempted to climb a ledge and throw himself from it.
It implies he was attempting to commit suicide and the nurses were attacked while trying to stop him.
I’m not saying he is blameless, but it isn’t as if he was just sitting in the room and decided to attack two nurses for the hell of it. He was presumably in a very bad mental state already, to the extent that he was trying to seriously harm himself.