No shit lol most people buy a computer to surf the Internet and use Microsoft office. Absolutely ZERO need for “AI”
ItaJohnson on
What I look for in a computer is CPU power and RAM. Mainly for feeding Virtual Machines. I tend to avoid Intel because of their insistence of using the big/little architecture while AMD only seems to use it on mobile CPUs.
If I see AI, it’s a hard pass unless the price is dirt cheap.
Pherllerp on
It’s like buying a TV. I’ll pay extra for the model doesn’t include “Smart TV” features. If I want to use a feature I’ll install it.
MalaproposMalefactor on
i would pay more for LESS AI to be honest… 😀
OPMajoradidas on
People who actually use a pc don’t need ai to do stuff. It’s a waste of time & space
Mean-Effective7416 on
I’m specifically not buying PCs because they have AI in them.
D-S-S-R on
Yeah no shit. I wont use the TPU, so why spend money on it
rpodovich on
Surprise, no one wants slop loaded computers that use half the resources onboard.
finzaz on
I don’t even want my TV to be “smart”
Brave-Ad6744 on
All PCs will “have AI” like all TVs are “smart”. The overlords are committed to serving us slop and ads whenever possible.
Aorihk on
If I could host my own ai, sure. But no way even these ai pc’s would have enough resources to reliably run Claude on your machine. Not that it’s even an option with Claude. You’d have to use one of the open source options that aren’t nearly as performant.
BeMancini on
We already had Siri, Alexa, and OKGoogle, and people barely used those when they actually searched the internet. Now, they’re just as bad as they were ten years ago, and they no longer have the benefit of finding actual websites, just summaries of summaries made a billion times over that are probably wrong.
Why would I want a PC that’s made just for asking questions and getting wrong answers?
NightchadeBackAgain on
I can promise you that I am actively avoiding buying anything just because it “has AI”.
celestepiano on
What would the AI even do?
Potchum on
Can someone explain what an AI PC is supposed to do? I’m familiar with CoPilot, GPT & Claude and understand the purpose & use case for AI, but I don’t have a clue what an ‘AI PC’ means or what benefits it could bring. What benefits does it offer over an internet connection to my preferred AI source?
NecessaryFreedom9799 on
If people wanted HAL in their houses, they’d go out and buy an (Amazon) Echo or something. People want a PC so they can do their own work on their own hardware, software (and, if possible, storage).
NecessaryFreedom9799 on
If people wanted HAL in their houses, they’d go out and buy an (Amazon) Echo or something. People want a PC so they can do their own work on their own hardware, software (and, if possible, storage).
umassmza on
I feel we peaked in the 90s I’d like to go back to less automation and devices. I don’t need my dishwasher to talk to my phone and I don’t need AI critiquing my writing and offering me suggestions
gonyere on
It’s why my dad won’t upgrade his iPhone or iPad, despite them getting quite old and slow (I think his iPhone is a 7…)
TyrKiyote on
Fear of missing out is a powerful marketing tool. With the meaningless buzzword, everything is AI, and AI ready.
“Wow! AI on a laptop?! I am a smart modern man, I need this.” Is as far as some will think.
A few years ago anything with more than 4gb of G-ram had a VR ready sticker on it.
Dell is in a catch 22. If they do not market tword AI readiness they will appear behind their competiton who does, in the eyes of some lay-consumers.
It is great if theyre now trying to cut some of the crap. Must be losing efficacy.
MattyBeatz on
I don’t mind AI. I mind that it’s jammed into everything I’m trying to do. Clogging up all my browsers, interfaces, operating systems, etc. Make it opt in for those that want to use it and stop forcing it on the rest of us.
Countryb0i2m on
Honestly, I want less AI, just give me a PC that works and I can decide how much AI I want it to have
ionetic on
AI is the vegan of technology, in that people tend to avoid foods labelled ‘vegan’ even if they were vegan before. Personally, AI is a label for unwarranted intrusion, interference and incompetence.
insanekid66 on
Of all the brands out today, Dell would be pretty close to last on my list anyway.
Jamizon1 on
AI is largely unpopular. For those with the ability for rational thought, what is the need for something to think and act for you? The slide towards this technology isn’t for the advancement of freedoms, it is for the removal of choice, for control and the creation of an alternate reality overseen by those that do not have anything but their enrichment in mind.
Captain4verage on
If I needed a new Laptop right now i would rather buy one second hand than getting one with that shitty copilot button.
And since AI is the reason that i wont be able to buy a new PC because of RAM and GPU prices I will avoid anything that uses AI like its the fucking plague.
blastingarrows on
We. 👏 Don’t. 👏 Want. 👏 AI! 👏
dreadthripper on
As a webapp developer, I want one just to see what I can offload from AWS and onto the user’s device (e.g. clean up messy data), but it’ll be years before I could assume their devices are capable of doing those ‘AI’ things locally.
HouseofMarg on
The only novel “feature” I’m looking for in my next PC is for Linux to be preinstalled on it. So far the German company Tuxedo looks pretty great for this, but I’m continuing to solicit suggestions before pulling the trigger on the purchase
JamieDepp on
Dell will be bankrupt by EOY
Svardskampe on
The most bang for the buck in performance to price I’ve found are laptops with an AMD ryzen 7 AI 350 now.
I’m now looking at what the company laptop model is going to be, but that choice is simply not AI-driven indeed, despite it likely being a “marketed as” AI hardware.
The choice is likely going to be a lenovo yoga slim 7 2in1 btw. I still have to have an appointment with the rep guy and see if there are unforeseen things.
The Dell options were just less bang for the buck, and remarkably worse real time battery performance.
CheeksMcGillicuddy on
No one is going to be buying their shit at all now that their hardware just jumped by 20/30% and is expected to do so again next month.
Redararis on
What does “pc having AI” even mean?
ibrahimsafah on
IIT, “I hate ai marketing therefore AI is the devil
Ok_Subject_7458 on
i don’t feel comfortable when some PC stores my images and my voice patterns in “the cloud” . i dont know how it will get abused. AND IT WILL GET ABUSED! you know it too
pleasegivemepatience on
My concern is that AI becomes the primary vector for malware and viruses being snuck into my system. Why do I want some black box virtual agent doing things to my machine behind the scenes without my full knowledge or consent? How does this help me, what value are they offering??
Replace search, analytics, etc with something smarter, sure, but having an “AI” that can edit every file on my machine? Hard pass, forever. I work in tech, have been an early adopter most of my life, but I’ve done a hard 180 and I’m disconnecting from all of the tech giants and staying off the radar as much as possible.
Regular watch, calculator, flip phone, etc I’m going back in time to when I wasn’t making money for tech giants by just being alive and generating data.
All_Hail_Hynotoad on
I would actually avoid a laptop with AI
FuzzyCub20 on
It slows down your PC, it lowers the longevity of the components because you’re using the processor for calculations all the time, it’s limited in its usefulness for everyday users, and it’s absolutely spyware accessing every piece of information on your computer that you don’t give it permission to do. I can’t stand that LLMs are being shoved into every corner of our lives.
Spaceboi749 on
Honesty the ai turns me away from it. Since all the ai models have pretty much gone through everything that’s publicly available they’re now looking for private information.
Whenever I see ai being offered for free I assume everything is being used to train ai. I know privacy has already been out the window but knowing an ai model is being trained off me specifically is gross
Karlachh on
I work in IT and sometimes when I remote into a user’s computer I remove CoPilot ☺️
Young_Denver on
Dear everybody: I don’t want Ai in EVERYTHING. I barely want Ai in ANYTHING.
Martinonfire on
Perhaps they could try putting AI in a 3d television?
RammRras on
Are AI laptops more useful to users or tho Microslop spying on every file and every gesture to train their models?
Muggsy423 on
The 3D tv of the computer industry
Griffemon on
Yeah no shit:
1. AI is at best for the end consumer just a slightly better google search engine.
2. As a result of it largely just being a better search engine for the vast majority of people they have zero value added if it’s baked into hardware
juliotendo on
The idea that general consumers are wanting to interact with their computers through “AI” is nonsense.
They just want to surf the internet, use Microsoft office when needed, and maybe use a few apps to communicate with friends and family and post stupid memes on social media.
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No shit lol most people buy a computer to surf the Internet and use Microsoft office. Absolutely ZERO need for “AI”
What I look for in a computer is CPU power and RAM. Mainly for feeding Virtual Machines. I tend to avoid Intel because of their insistence of using the big/little architecture while AMD only seems to use it on mobile CPUs.
If I see AI, it’s a hard pass unless the price is dirt cheap.
It’s like buying a TV. I’ll pay extra for the model doesn’t include “Smart TV” features. If I want to use a feature I’ll install it.
i would pay more for LESS AI to be honest… 😀
People who actually use a pc don’t need ai to do stuff. It’s a waste of time & space
I’m specifically not buying PCs because they have AI in them.
Yeah no shit. I wont use the TPU, so why spend money on it
Surprise, no one wants slop loaded computers that use half the resources onboard.
I don’t even want my TV to be “smart”
All PCs will “have AI” like all TVs are “smart”. The overlords are committed to serving us slop and ads whenever possible.
If I could host my own ai, sure. But no way even these ai pc’s would have enough resources to reliably run Claude on your machine. Not that it’s even an option with Claude. You’d have to use one of the open source options that aren’t nearly as performant.
We already had Siri, Alexa, and OKGoogle, and people barely used those when they actually searched the internet. Now, they’re just as bad as they were ten years ago, and they no longer have the benefit of finding actual websites, just summaries of summaries made a billion times over that are probably wrong.
Why would I want a PC that’s made just for asking questions and getting wrong answers?
I can promise you that I am actively avoiding buying anything just because it “has AI”.
What would the AI even do?
Can someone explain what an AI PC is supposed to do? I’m familiar with CoPilot, GPT & Claude and understand the purpose & use case for AI, but I don’t have a clue what an ‘AI PC’ means or what benefits it could bring. What benefits does it offer over an internet connection to my preferred AI source?
If people wanted HAL in their houses, they’d go out and buy an (Amazon) Echo or something. People want a PC so they can do their own work on their own hardware, software (and, if possible, storage).
If people wanted HAL in their houses, they’d go out and buy an (Amazon) Echo or something. People want a PC so they can do their own work on their own hardware, software (and, if possible, storage).
I feel we peaked in the 90s I’d like to go back to less automation and devices. I don’t need my dishwasher to talk to my phone and I don’t need AI critiquing my writing and offering me suggestions
It’s why my dad won’t upgrade his iPhone or iPad, despite them getting quite old and slow (I think his iPhone is a 7…)
Fear of missing out is a powerful marketing tool. With the meaningless buzzword, everything is AI, and AI ready.
“Wow! AI on a laptop?! I am a smart modern man, I need this.” Is as far as some will think.
A few years ago anything with more than 4gb of G-ram had a VR ready sticker on it.
Dell is in a catch 22. If they do not market tword AI readiness they will appear behind their competiton who does, in the eyes of some lay-consumers.
It is great if theyre now trying to cut some of the crap. Must be losing efficacy.
I don’t mind AI. I mind that it’s jammed into everything I’m trying to do. Clogging up all my browsers, interfaces, operating systems, etc. Make it opt in for those that want to use it and stop forcing it on the rest of us.
Honestly, I want less AI, just give me a PC that works and I can decide how much AI I want it to have
AI is the vegan of technology, in that people tend to avoid foods labelled ‘vegan’ even if they were vegan before. Personally, AI is a label for unwarranted intrusion, interference and incompetence.
Of all the brands out today, Dell would be pretty close to last on my list anyway.
AI is largely unpopular. For those with the ability for rational thought, what is the need for something to think and act for you? The slide towards this technology isn’t for the advancement of freedoms, it is for the removal of choice, for control and the creation of an alternate reality overseen by those that do not have anything but their enrichment in mind.
If I needed a new Laptop right now i would rather buy one second hand than getting one with that shitty copilot button.
And since AI is the reason that i wont be able to buy a new PC because of RAM and GPU prices I will avoid anything that uses AI like its the fucking plague.
We. 👏 Don’t. 👏 Want. 👏 AI! 👏
As a webapp developer, I want one just to see what I can offload from AWS and onto the user’s device (e.g. clean up messy data), but it’ll be years before I could assume their devices are capable of doing those ‘AI’ things locally.
The only novel “feature” I’m looking for in my next PC is for Linux to be preinstalled on it. So far the German company Tuxedo looks pretty great for this, but I’m continuing to solicit suggestions before pulling the trigger on the purchase
Dell will be bankrupt by EOY
The most bang for the buck in performance to price I’ve found are laptops with an AMD ryzen 7 AI 350 now.
I’m now looking at what the company laptop model is going to be, but that choice is simply not AI-driven indeed, despite it likely being a “marketed as” AI hardware.
The choice is likely going to be a lenovo yoga slim 7 2in1 btw. I still have to have an appointment with the rep guy and see if there are unforeseen things.
The Dell options were just less bang for the buck, and remarkably worse real time battery performance.
No one is going to be buying their shit at all now that their hardware just jumped by 20/30% and is expected to do so again next month.
What does “pc having AI” even mean?
IIT, “I hate ai marketing therefore AI is the devil
i don’t feel comfortable when some PC stores my images and my voice patterns in “the cloud” . i dont know how it will get abused. AND IT WILL GET ABUSED! you know it too
My concern is that AI becomes the primary vector for malware and viruses being snuck into my system. Why do I want some black box virtual agent doing things to my machine behind the scenes without my full knowledge or consent? How does this help me, what value are they offering??
Replace search, analytics, etc with something smarter, sure, but having an “AI” that can edit every file on my machine? Hard pass, forever. I work in tech, have been an early adopter most of my life, but I’ve done a hard 180 and I’m disconnecting from all of the tech giants and staying off the radar as much as possible.
Regular watch, calculator, flip phone, etc I’m going back in time to when I wasn’t making money for tech giants by just being alive and generating data.
I would actually avoid a laptop with AI
It slows down your PC, it lowers the longevity of the components because you’re using the processor for calculations all the time, it’s limited in its usefulness for everyday users, and it’s absolutely spyware accessing every piece of information on your computer that you don’t give it permission to do. I can’t stand that LLMs are being shoved into every corner of our lives.
Honesty the ai turns me away from it. Since all the ai models have pretty much gone through everything that’s publicly available they’re now looking for private information.
Whenever I see ai being offered for free I assume everything is being used to train ai. I know privacy has already been out the window but knowing an ai model is being trained off me specifically is gross
I work in IT and sometimes when I remote into a user’s computer I remove CoPilot ☺️
Dear everybody: I don’t want Ai in EVERYTHING. I barely want Ai in ANYTHING.
Perhaps they could try putting AI in a 3d television?
Are AI laptops more useful to users or tho Microslop spying on every file and every gesture to train their models?
The 3D tv of the computer industry
Yeah no shit:
1. AI is at best for the end consumer just a slightly better google search engine.
2. As a result of it largely just being a better search engine for the vast majority of people they have zero value added if it’s baked into hardware
The idea that general consumers are wanting to interact with their computers through “AI” is nonsense.
They just want to surf the internet, use Microsoft office when needed, and maybe use a few apps to communicate with friends and family and post stupid memes on social media.
My 13 year old surface pro 3 has AI.
I just go to a browser and open chatgpt. Boom.