Hmm, looks like I need to throw a massive party in April.
Sound_Saracen on
For some reason I have this feeling of dread regarding the election, I feel as if they’ll try to do something in order to keep Orban in power.
t_baozi on
I really don’t know how this is going to go out. Orban’s clique is WAY too entrenched in corruption and graft. They all know they will end up in jail if they lose this election. They have months to prepare for these elections.
I honestly hope there will be a peaceful transfer of power.
PRKP99 on
Hope not only those two parties will go into parliament, but also some left wing alternative like Szikra, because Tisza at the end is just fidesz-light, and I’m worry about future of working classes in Hungary – without any left alternative, Fidesz will probably take those people with them, and they will be back in power after a while – you need to make real changes, real deep reforms in order to not give power back to right wing cleptocrats, and at this point it doesn’t look like Tisza could do that, as center-right party made out of former Fidesz people.
I hope I will be wrong.
wgszpieg on
So Hungarians – what will happen when Orban dismisses the election results as falsified and declares himself the winner? Is there any authority in Hungary that can stop him?
lux_use4 on
Seems like it’s how the Romanians say:
Megvan a farkatok, juniorok.
Jovan_Konstantinovic on
I really hope Hungarian people win in april and Orban and his cronies go to jail.it would also be a huge hit to our corrupt Serbian president and Orban’s “best buddy”
Bicentennial_Douche on
They will absolutely rig this election to retain power.
OkKnowledge2064 on
Could Orban form a big coalition with all the smaller parties? Is there a minimum requirement of votes to be in the parliament?
nicubunu on
Expect the final results to be affected by massive fraud.
bobdammi on
And if he loses, he will use all his power over the media to trash Tisza, so he will win again, regardless of how good Tisza performs.
Kut_reddit on
Whete is orban the cunt??
LordpoopyfaceHd79 on
Oh boy cant wait for free and fair elections, nothing bad will come out of this
ZeraDoesStuff on
So either there will be “elections”, there will be no elections or there will be some laws and sudden court cases barring the opposition from running
AnonomousWolf on
Does Hungary have a two party system?
Or if a smaller party gets 10% of the vote can they become a king maker?
uzu_afk on
I think nothing will happen as long as the difference is more than 5%. Some might run out of Hungary, but they will continue doing what they have so far. When is the election?
InkVision001 on
They will absolutely rig the results. We’re about to see huge wave of protests.
Orsee on
Don’t give me hope.
the_TIGEEER on
*Me googling nervously “Orbans party” *
“Pls pls pls pls”
“OH Thank god..
dead97531 on
**BTW this is a poll overview which also shows propaganda polls. Real polls show that Tisza is at 53% and fidesz is at 37%** which means that Tisza is really close to having 2/3 supermajority!
tremblt_ on
The propaganda campaign will go into overdrive mode in the coming days. I think that neither Orban nor Putin nor Xi Jinping will allow for an electoral victory of the opposition. The amount of fake news, disinformation, lies and AI generated propaganda on social media will exceed anything we have ever seen so far. The regime will also try everything in their power to stop the opposition. I think last time the opposition got something like 60 seconds of air time on public broadcast television for the entire campaign and to humiliate them even more, the regime put a timer on *exactly* 60 seconds so that the opposition would get exactly the bare minimum of time required by law.
I would not be surprised if TISZA gets flooded with lawsuits or if the government starts cracking down on their rallies and public appearances. The government could also change the laws or the constitution on a whim and make it just so much harder for TISZA voters to vote
SnooPoems3464 on
Let’s hope the EU sends boatloads of observers, especially to the countryside
1xX1337Xx1 on
I just hope Orban doesn’t win with 101% with russian 👏👏👏
Netsmile on
Just a few tricks Orban did in past elections( if you are living in the USA here is your next 3 years)
– collect nomination signatures for as many tiny and fake partys as possible to divide voters not on their side.
– In my hometown a really popular public figure (stand up comedist) was sure to beat their candidate. So they find someone with the very same name, quickly collect signatures for him to be on the paper next to their rival. Of course this is to confuse rivals voters.
– good old gerrymandering
– Chain voting : First guy throws an empty envelope in the urn and comes out with the empty ballot paper. hands it over to local Fidesz guy who pays for it. Second guy gets a filled out ballot paper which he throws in the urn and brings out the empty one he got. Repeat. They simply pay around 10-20 € for poor peoples vote. Thanks to this and other factors Fidesz has their strongest voter base in rural, small village, poor areas. The poorer the smaller the stronger is their grasp.
– National radio and tv channels are insanely propagandist, they bought or killed off all the largest newspapers/portals, all the local newapapers/portals. National tv was caught using ai in a ‘random person on the street’ type interview.(ai generated buses in the background we dont have in Hungary, oops) In another occasion one of the major Fidesz supporting news portal posted an article that was just random characters. I kid you not, very shortly all 20+ local news portals and other major news portals had the same article published to the letter. (they fully automated it, as no sane editor would have allowed piblishing nonsense)
– Fear based politics: Immigrants, high utility costs, George Soros, Brusseles. There is always an external enemy and only our brave leader can save us. Us or them mentality made it impossible to have a civilised debate on issues, everything was bent to its extreme. All while they were using fear as a cape of deception while they robbed the country blind.
List goes on but you get the idea.
TiggTigg07 on
Fingers crossed Orban is booted out.
spiringTankmonger on
Isn’t the electoral system already biased in favour of FIDESZ?
Also, you can count on the electorate to do a little trolling.
But I expect the election to be neither free nor fair.
dat_9600gt_user on
Remember, Hungarians – Fidesz will not fight fair. In order for these polls to translate into actual parliament results, you must vote in these elections.
shirkek on
Doesn’t matter, Orbanists are everywhere in the system. Tisza would have to do full cleansing of judiciary system and they won’t have enough seats for that even if they win.
Frankfranks_it on
Well within the bounds of election fraud.
sammy_luci on
Please share more context, or provide us with a link.
What exactly does this chart represent?
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Source: https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/hungary/
Hmm, looks like I need to throw a massive party in April.
For some reason I have this feeling of dread regarding the election, I feel as if they’ll try to do something in order to keep Orban in power.
I really don’t know how this is going to go out. Orban’s clique is WAY too entrenched in corruption and graft. They all know they will end up in jail if they lose this election. They have months to prepare for these elections.
I honestly hope there will be a peaceful transfer of power.
Hope not only those two parties will go into parliament, but also some left wing alternative like Szikra, because Tisza at the end is just fidesz-light, and I’m worry about future of working classes in Hungary – without any left alternative, Fidesz will probably take those people with them, and they will be back in power after a while – you need to make real changes, real deep reforms in order to not give power back to right wing cleptocrats, and at this point it doesn’t look like Tisza could do that, as center-right party made out of former Fidesz people.
I hope I will be wrong.
So Hungarians – what will happen when Orban dismisses the election results as falsified and declares himself the winner? Is there any authority in Hungary that can stop him?
Seems like it’s how the Romanians say:
Megvan a farkatok, juniorok.
I really hope Hungarian people win in april and Orban and his cronies go to jail.it would also be a huge hit to our corrupt Serbian president and Orban’s “best buddy”
They will absolutely rig this election to retain power.
Could Orban form a big coalition with all the smaller parties? Is there a minimum requirement of votes to be in the parliament?
Expect the final results to be affected by massive fraud.
And if he loses, he will use all his power over the media to trash Tisza, so he will win again, regardless of how good Tisza performs.
Whete is orban the cunt??
Oh boy cant wait for free and fair elections, nothing bad will come out of this
So either there will be “elections”, there will be no elections or there will be some laws and sudden court cases barring the opposition from running
Does Hungary have a two party system?
Or if a smaller party gets 10% of the vote can they become a king maker?
I think nothing will happen as long as the difference is more than 5%. Some might run out of Hungary, but they will continue doing what they have so far. When is the election?
They will absolutely rig the results. We’re about to see huge wave of protests.
Don’t give me hope.
*Me googling nervously “Orbans party” *
“Pls pls pls pls”
“OH Thank god..
**BTW this is a poll overview which also shows propaganda polls. Real polls show that Tisza is at 53% and fidesz is at 37%** which means that Tisza is really close to having 2/3 supermajority!
The propaganda campaign will go into overdrive mode in the coming days. I think that neither Orban nor Putin nor Xi Jinping will allow for an electoral victory of the opposition. The amount of fake news, disinformation, lies and AI generated propaganda on social media will exceed anything we have ever seen so far. The regime will also try everything in their power to stop the opposition. I think last time the opposition got something like 60 seconds of air time on public broadcast television for the entire campaign and to humiliate them even more, the regime put a timer on *exactly* 60 seconds so that the opposition would get exactly the bare minimum of time required by law.
I would not be surprised if TISZA gets flooded with lawsuits or if the government starts cracking down on their rallies and public appearances. The government could also change the laws or the constitution on a whim and make it just so much harder for TISZA voters to vote
Let’s hope the EU sends boatloads of observers, especially to the countryside
I just hope Orban doesn’t win with 101% with russian 👏👏👏
Just a few tricks Orban did in past elections( if you are living in the USA here is your next 3 years)
– collect nomination signatures for as many tiny and fake partys as possible to divide voters not on their side.
– In my hometown a really popular public figure (stand up comedist) was sure to beat their candidate. So they find someone with the very same name, quickly collect signatures for him to be on the paper next to their rival. Of course this is to confuse rivals voters.
– good old gerrymandering
– Chain voting : First guy throws an empty envelope in the urn and comes out with the empty ballot paper. hands it over to local Fidesz guy who pays for it. Second guy gets a filled out ballot paper which he throws in the urn and brings out the empty one he got. Repeat. They simply pay around 10-20 € for poor peoples vote. Thanks to this and other factors Fidesz has their strongest voter base in rural, small village, poor areas. The poorer the smaller the stronger is their grasp.
– National radio and tv channels are insanely propagandist, they bought or killed off all the largest newspapers/portals, all the local newapapers/portals. National tv was caught using ai in a ‘random person on the street’ type interview.(ai generated buses in the background we dont have in Hungary, oops) In another occasion one of the major Fidesz supporting news portal posted an article that was just random characters. I kid you not, very shortly all 20+ local news portals and other major news portals had the same article published to the letter. (they fully automated it, as no sane editor would have allowed piblishing nonsense)
– Fear based politics: Immigrants, high utility costs, George Soros, Brusseles. There is always an external enemy and only our brave leader can save us. Us or them mentality made it impossible to have a civilised debate on issues, everything was bent to its extreme. All while they were using fear as a cape of deception while they robbed the country blind.
List goes on but you get the idea.
Fingers crossed Orban is booted out.
Isn’t the electoral system already biased in favour of FIDESZ?
Also, you can count on the electorate to do a little trolling.
But I expect the election to be neither free nor fair.
Remember, Hungarians – Fidesz will not fight fair. In order for these polls to translate into actual parliament results, you must vote in these elections.
Doesn’t matter, Orbanists are everywhere in the system. Tisza would have to do full cleansing of judiciary system and they won’t have enough seats for that even if they win.
Well within the bounds of election fraud.
Please share more context, or provide us with a link.
What exactly does this chart represent?
Answers to some question? What was that?