The administration is likely betting on being able to “persuade” Greenlanders to support a US takeover by throwing big sums of money at them. There’s no way military action is seriously on the table despite what a tiny handful of sociopaths like Stephen Miller might think.
SinisterJoe on
I really don’t get the logic here, greenland already has an agreement with the US allowing them to set up military bases there. There were like 10 in the cold war at one point. Why annex?
Nick_Strong on
I hope they’re proud of destroying 80 years of transatlantic cooperation. Europe will never fully trust the US again after this administration, even if the Democrats keep winning for decades.
Oggelicious27 on
So this just confirms their lie that this was ever about “arctic security”.
Give it your best shot you fucks, there is absolutely no way any scandinavian would ever trade their welfare society for privatized healthcare and gestapo troops walking the streets shooting mothers in the face.
Your only choice then is invasion – best case scenario NATO obliterates your invading force, kicks you out of NATO, banish your overseas bases and personel and ceases all future trade with the US for a century at the least.
Worst case scenario is WW3
In neither cases do you get to own Greenland, you toddler country
Scottdg93 on
Where are the adults?
Hanz_Simmer on
As a Dane, I’ve always felt a strong sense of connection to the United States on many cultural levels. Even though there are numerous political and societal ideologies I fundamentally disagree with, I’ve still felt a bond.
But now I’m left with a bad taste in my mouth. I honestly don’t see how the damage caused by this sense of betrayal can be repaired.
Please, for fuck’s sake, stop before it gets even worse. Do something.
77entropy on
The fact that this person is still in power speaks volumes about average Americans.
Alternative-Dig-7706 on
As a Canadian the Americans are nuts. Honestly, the world needs a strong Europe. Fingers are crossed .. be bold before it’s too late
DeliciousPangolin on
The deployment of an advance force to Greenland was handled very well. To get a multinational force on the ground within hours of the White House meeting, they had to have been packed and ready to go the second they got the word Trump would not compromise.
The moment of greatest danger was the time between when the US realized capitulation isn’t on the table, and when more NATO troops arrived. I suspect that if Trump saw an opportunity to take an ungarrisoned Greenland in a bloodless operation with special forces and present it to Americans as a fait accompli, he’d go for. NATO gave him no opportunity to do that. Now the stakes are a lot higher. Fighting a real battle and murdering soldiers from a half-dozen European nations would obliterate relations between the US and Europe.
Johndoenobodyatall on
Let’s destroy NATO, most successful alliance in recent history. Why not?
bhuree3 on
Is it possible for Greenland/Denmark to now formally request the US troops leave? It seems so weird that they’re allowing them to stay when the rhetoric is that they’re about to try to take over by force.
Pope-Muffins on
Canadian here
I **will** die for the Danish if asked to do so, Danes have died for us
epanek on
Wrong question. How valuable are us military bases in the EU? When are you planning to close them?
WantedR5 on
What the hell is wrong with this guy
IHS1970 on
I’m sure they don’t care, till he starts bombing or something. I sincerely hope he shuts up, EVERY state will not forget anything like that. People don’t think we should be bombing and attacking Greenland.
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royalmarine on
All this because one man didn’t want to face justice for his crimes against kids.
Putin clearly has video evidence of it.
So he’s doing whatever Putin wants.
And as for Miller…. His crimes are as bad if not worse. He’s the brains behind a lot of this. Racist hateful creep.
d1andonly on
Wonder if Trump gonna turn around and say something like look at how Europe rallied to send troops to defend a barren inhabited snow covered island but did nothing to help Ukraine.
garimus on
Are we starting to see the importance of Senator ~~Scott~~Mark Kelly’s warning about military personnel following unlawful orders yet? Let’s not forget who’s attacking him for saying so.
prince-pauper on
It would be fabulous if the US military refused to comply.
oldcreaker on
So – Trump is going to destroy the east wing – then the west wing – and then he’s going to get Europe to take out the main building.
You do know if it gets violent what happens in Greenland doesn’t necessarily stay in Greenland?
NonyaGotDamBiz on
I feel like this is just trump doing shit for putin again. Trump talks taking greenland. nato looks towards US and away from ukraine/russia
_hellboy_xo on
I once viewed the USA as the land of opportunities, a place with smart people and true freedom.
Now it’s a circus that not even The Onion or South Park could ever predict
NerdyBrando on
The amount of damage this administration is doing to the USA’s standing on the world stage is incomprehensible. I don’t think other nations are ever going to trust us again.
Sea_Art3391 on
>Russia said on Thursday that NATO’s talk of Moscow and Beijing being a threat to Greenland was a myth designed to whip up hysteria and warned of the dangers of escalating confrontation in the region.
Even the russians are like “what the hell are you doing”.
sylvestris1 on
But if Russia or china invade Greenland, America as a NATO member would be obliged to step in anyway.
Shouldn’t someone tell trump that?
Legitimate-Bridge463 on
We are so fucked for decades. And at this point now, we kind of deserve it because we’re so stupid. 1/3 voted for Kamala, one third vote voted for Trump, and the other third, many of them Democrats, figured there was no way he could win again, so they stayed home and sat on their asses. Americans are immature emotionally, lazy, intellectually, and many of them are in a political cult so there is zero reasoning with them. If the West Coast really did break off and join Canada, I’d be out in the streets shitfaced celebrating.
Rogthgar on
Ofc they do… because they still seem to think they can repeat the Maduro kidnapping and don’t think NATO allies are serious about opening fire on them.
AdObvious1695 on
You gotta think that even his party is getting sick of his shit.
Venezuela, appears to be a fucking dud.
Iran tough guy BS, he chickens out but not before moving troops from bases for safety.
This Greenland crap, which is going to go nowhere, and has just alienated the US even more.
The amount of damage his tariffs are inflicting on businesses and individuals.
The cost of ICE and law enforcement efforts.
And to top it off, his cozying up to Qatar etc etc.
What else? So much. Oh yeah firing and rehiring federal employees… the lawsuits… etc etc. oh wait there’s more!
His golf trips even.
From a purely fiscal and logistics perspective, he’s a complete failure alone on that. All of this is huge amounts of money. And ohhh how they hate waste. Fucking joke of a party.
MountainousDuck on
The last bunch of years have driven home the point that studying history in college was a complete waste because everybody treats me like I’m crazy when I try to share lessons from the past but just in case I’m not yet screaming into the void here’s something I learned studying history, especially 20th century history: generally nations do not mobilize for war and then not fight a war. That’s a grim lesson but a relevant one for right now
pantotheface888 on
Is America a democracy? Yes or no? If yes, then Americans who voted for Trump (twice) are just as guilty/unhinged as Trump.
Livid_Isopod_4218 on
No son, you cannot have Greenland. Now eat your broccoli.
cmg4champ on
Doesn’t care? He doesn’t care? You know Donald. You’re not the only one with nukes.
You really want to do this? Do you really think France and the UK are just going to sit back and toddle while you sick your special forces to slaughter their defensive troops in Greenland?
totallyRebb on
Imho, Trump is flirting with a completely schizo and artificial war for multiple reasons.
It binds US and Europe assets and focus, potentially taking it away from Ukraine and also possibly China if they start a thing with Taiwan.
It could shatter Nato and sow animosity between western Allies. Further isolating the US on the world stage.
All things that are Putin’s wet dreams.
And also it might give him an excuse to cancel the midterms.
Blawn14 on
Remember when Bush coined the name “Axis of Evil”? Who would’ve thought we’d be the leader of it one day lol
G07V3 on
This scenario is actually very different from any US military operation in recent history. The US military has always fought against people using less superior weaponry and never against people with equivalent weaponry.
If a military invasion of Greenland does happen, I suspect the support for it will quickly drop after numerous Americans are killed. I suspect the chances of Americans dying would be higher than any kind of capture, raid, or small military operation that the US has done recently.
dogmeat12358 on
Who has “war with Europe” on their bingo card.
crumbca on
Fall of Rome run by idiots.
TraditionalLaw7763 on
I thought the military would refuse illegal orders?? /s
Of course they’ll invade.
Lucky_Researcher_ on
America is no longer a democracy! Watching from Europe, the echoes of the past are very loud and clear.
If the US were to invade Greenland, Europe would have to back Denmark. Failing to help would mean the end of the EU.
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The administration is likely betting on being able to “persuade” Greenlanders to support a US takeover by throwing big sums of money at them. There’s no way military action is seriously on the table despite what a tiny handful of sociopaths like Stephen Miller might think.
I really don’t get the logic here, greenland already has an agreement with the US allowing them to set up military bases there. There were like 10 in the cold war at one point. Why annex?
I hope they’re proud of destroying 80 years of transatlantic cooperation. Europe will never fully trust the US again after this administration, even if the Democrats keep winning for decades.
So this just confirms their lie that this was ever about “arctic security”.
Give it your best shot you fucks, there is absolutely no way any scandinavian would ever trade their welfare society for privatized healthcare and gestapo troops walking the streets shooting mothers in the face.
Your only choice then is invasion – best case scenario NATO obliterates your invading force, kicks you out of NATO, banish your overseas bases and personel and ceases all future trade with the US for a century at the least.
Worst case scenario is WW3
In neither cases do you get to own Greenland, you toddler country
Where are the adults?
As a Dane, I’ve always felt a strong sense of connection to the United States on many cultural levels. Even though there are numerous political and societal ideologies I fundamentally disagree with, I’ve still felt a bond.
But now I’m left with a bad taste in my mouth. I honestly don’t see how the damage caused by this sense of betrayal can be repaired.
Please, for fuck’s sake, stop before it gets even worse. Do something.
The fact that this person is still in power speaks volumes about average Americans.
As a Canadian the Americans are nuts. Honestly, the world needs a strong Europe. Fingers are crossed .. be bold before it’s too late
The deployment of an advance force to Greenland was handled very well. To get a multinational force on the ground within hours of the White House meeting, they had to have been packed and ready to go the second they got the word Trump would not compromise.
The moment of greatest danger was the time between when the US realized capitulation isn’t on the table, and when more NATO troops arrived. I suspect that if Trump saw an opportunity to take an ungarrisoned Greenland in a bloodless operation with special forces and present it to Americans as a fait accompli, he’d go for. NATO gave him no opportunity to do that. Now the stakes are a lot higher. Fighting a real battle and murdering soldiers from a half-dozen European nations would obliterate relations between the US and Europe.
Let’s destroy NATO, most successful alliance in recent history. Why not?
Is it possible for Greenland/Denmark to now formally request the US troops leave? It seems so weird that they’re allowing them to stay when the rhetoric is that they’re about to try to take over by force.
Canadian here
I **will** die for the Danish if asked to do so, Danes have died for us
Wrong question. How valuable are us military bases in the EU? When are you planning to close them?
What the hell is wrong with this guy
I’m sure they don’t care, till he starts bombing or something. I sincerely hope he shuts up, EVERY state will not forget anything like that. People don’t think we should be bombing and attacking Greenland.
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All this because one man didn’t want to face justice for his crimes against kids.
Putin clearly has video evidence of it.
So he’s doing whatever Putin wants.
And as for Miller…. His crimes are as bad if not worse. He’s the brains behind a lot of this. Racist hateful creep.
Wonder if Trump gonna turn around and say something like look at how Europe rallied to send troops to defend a barren inhabited snow covered island but did nothing to help Ukraine.
Are we starting to see the importance of Senator ~~Scott~~Mark Kelly’s warning about military personnel following unlawful orders yet? Let’s not forget who’s attacking him for saying so.
It would be fabulous if the US military refused to comply.
So – Trump is going to destroy the east wing – then the west wing – and then he’s going to get Europe to take out the main building.
You do know if it gets violent what happens in Greenland doesn’t necessarily stay in Greenland?
I feel like this is just trump doing shit for putin again. Trump talks taking greenland. nato looks towards US and away from ukraine/russia
I once viewed the USA as the land of opportunities, a place with smart people and true freedom.
Now it’s a circus that not even The Onion or South Park could ever predict
The amount of damage this administration is doing to the USA’s standing on the world stage is incomprehensible. I don’t think other nations are ever going to trust us again.
>Russia said on Thursday that NATO’s talk of Moscow and Beijing being a threat to Greenland was a myth designed to whip up hysteria and warned of the dangers of escalating confrontation in the region.
Even the russians are like “what the hell are you doing”.
But if Russia or china invade Greenland, America as a NATO member would be obliged to step in anyway.
Shouldn’t someone tell trump that?
We are so fucked for decades. And at this point now, we kind of deserve it because we’re so stupid. 1/3 voted for Kamala, one third vote voted for Trump, and the other third, many of them Democrats, figured there was no way he could win again, so they stayed home and sat on their asses. Americans are immature emotionally, lazy, intellectually, and many of them are in a political cult so there is zero reasoning with them. If the West Coast really did break off and join Canada, I’d be out in the streets shitfaced celebrating.
Ofc they do… because they still seem to think they can repeat the Maduro kidnapping and don’t think NATO allies are serious about opening fire on them.
You gotta think that even his party is getting sick of his shit.
Venezuela, appears to be a fucking dud.
Iran tough guy BS, he chickens out but not before moving troops from bases for safety.
This Greenland crap, which is going to go nowhere, and has just alienated the US even more.
The amount of damage his tariffs are inflicting on businesses and individuals.
The cost of ICE and law enforcement efforts.
And to top it off, his cozying up to Qatar etc etc.
What else? So much. Oh yeah firing and rehiring federal employees… the lawsuits… etc etc. oh wait there’s more!
His golf trips even.
From a purely fiscal and logistics perspective, he’s a complete failure alone on that. All of this is huge amounts of money. And ohhh how they hate waste. Fucking joke of a party.
The last bunch of years have driven home the point that studying history in college was a complete waste because everybody treats me like I’m crazy when I try to share lessons from the past but just in case I’m not yet screaming into the void here’s something I learned studying history, especially 20th century history: generally nations do not mobilize for war and then not fight a war. That’s a grim lesson but a relevant one for right now
Is America a democracy? Yes or no? If yes, then Americans who voted for Trump (twice) are just as guilty/unhinged as Trump.
No son, you cannot have Greenland. Now eat your broccoli.
Doesn’t care? He doesn’t care? You know Donald. You’re not the only one with nukes.
You really want to do this? Do you really think France and the UK are just going to sit back and toddle while you sick your special forces to slaughter their defensive troops in Greenland?
Imho, Trump is flirting with a completely schizo and artificial war for multiple reasons.
It binds US and Europe assets and focus, potentially taking it away from Ukraine and also possibly China if they start a thing with Taiwan.
It could shatter Nato and sow animosity between western Allies. Further isolating the US on the world stage.
All things that are Putin’s wet dreams.
And also it might give him an excuse to cancel the midterms.
Remember when Bush coined the name “Axis of Evil”? Who would’ve thought we’d be the leader of it one day lol
This scenario is actually very different from any US military operation in recent history. The US military has always fought against people using less superior weaponry and never against people with equivalent weaponry.
If a military invasion of Greenland does happen, I suspect the support for it will quickly drop after numerous Americans are killed. I suspect the chances of Americans dying would be higher than any kind of capture, raid, or small military operation that the US has done recently.
Who has “war with Europe” on their bingo card.
Fall of Rome run by idiots.
I thought the military would refuse illegal orders?? /s
Of course they’ll invade.
America is no longer a democracy! Watching from Europe, the echoes of the past are very loud and clear.
If the US were to invade Greenland, Europe would have to back Denmark. Failing to help would mean the end of the EU.
It is that simple.