China isn’t a friend, but at least their decisions have some predictable logic behind them and they don’t seem to assume every negotiation is a zero-sum game with a winner and a loser.
Trump makes his decisions with an incomprehensible combination of dementia fever dreams, who offended him most recently, and what boosts his ego the most.
OnePercentage3943 on
Read the AP article on it today. This is why I voted for him.
Just gotta make as many moves as possible outside of the US because Trump is a lunatic and will probably torpedo CUSMA for no reason.
byronite on
I kinda like the Beaverton article that contrasts China’s “neutral evil” to Trump’s “chaotic evil.” But we shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that China will absolutely screw ~~up~~ **us** over the second it gets the chance.
As for the North American auto industry, the Chinese BEVs are allegedly filling a niche that the North American industry chose not to enter because it’s more profitable to force a car-dependent society to buy larger, more expensive cars. This deal will show whether the niche actually exists.
Mcsmith64 on
The article purposely misrepresents what was agreed to. Canola tariffs will come down to 6% and seafood and canola meal will go no tariff. In return we agree to let in 49000 ev at a 6 % tariff. This is meant to start March 1 and is only preliminary meaning there are issues to be worked out and both sides have to act to implement. It isn’t a sellout. And yes, the US is untrustworthy.
UnluckyRandomGuy on
“We are heartened by the leadership of president Xi Jinping” lmfao you people know both are bad right? Liberals doing tricks on it for another country that was rounding minorities up and executing them and throwing the in concentration camps because at least this one isn’t the US!
China is equally as reliable as the US and that’s not at all, just wait until they make a move on Taiwan and everyone pretends like they’re suddenly surprised
Crawgdor on
This editorial slant on this article is incredibly misleading. The first paragraph says that we are lifting tariffs on electric cars but China is not lifting tariffs on canola and the tone is negative.
In actual fact we are implementing a cap stat where the first 49K Chinese cars annually come in at a 6% Tariff rate and Chinese tariffs on Canola are reduced from 100% to 15%.
This is real progress
Foreign-Policy-02- on
Idk, the fact the government told journalists to use burner phones in China … maybe reliable is not the best word.
But yea things were eventually going to slightly open up in trade.
Honestly 49k cars aren’t bad, because it’s not like the government is going to be buying them. Huawei was much worse since China would have a back door to the mobile network in Canada.
Toronto Sun, as always, putting out statements with no regard to truth.
Zero record of Carney making this stat but then Torontosun is not a reliable news source
Needle_In_Hay_Stack on
China IS proven to be more reliable under any example.
Canadians are quick to bring up 2 Michael’s as a case against China. They conveniently ignore that Canada had arrested a Chinese lady and handed her over to uncle Sam. And 2 Michaels were a reaction to that. China did NOT start it. Canada started it at behest of US and China exercised their right to return the favour.
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China isn’t a friend, but at least their decisions have some predictable logic behind them and they don’t seem to assume every negotiation is a zero-sum game with a winner and a loser.
Trump makes his decisions with an incomprehensible combination of dementia fever dreams, who offended him most recently, and what boosts his ego the most.
Read the AP article on it today. This is why I voted for him.
Just gotta make as many moves as possible outside of the US because Trump is a lunatic and will probably torpedo CUSMA for no reason.
I kinda like the Beaverton article that contrasts China’s “neutral evil” to Trump’s “chaotic evil.” But we shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that China will absolutely screw ~~up~~ **us** over the second it gets the chance.
As for the North American auto industry, the Chinese BEVs are allegedly filling a niche that the North American industry chose not to enter because it’s more profitable to force a car-dependent society to buy larger, more expensive cars. This deal will show whether the niche actually exists.
The article purposely misrepresents what was agreed to. Canola tariffs will come down to 6% and seafood and canola meal will go no tariff. In return we agree to let in 49000 ev at a 6 % tariff. This is meant to start March 1 and is only preliminary meaning there are issues to be worked out and both sides have to act to implement. It isn’t a sellout. And yes, the US is untrustworthy.
“We are heartened by the leadership of president Xi Jinping” lmfao you people know both are bad right? Liberals doing tricks on it for another country that was rounding minorities up and executing them and throwing the in concentration camps because at least this one isn’t the US!
China is equally as reliable as the US and that’s not at all, just wait until they make a move on Taiwan and everyone pretends like they’re suddenly surprised
This editorial slant on this article is incredibly misleading. The first paragraph says that we are lifting tariffs on electric cars but China is not lifting tariffs on canola and the tone is negative.
In actual fact we are implementing a cap stat where the first 49K Chinese cars annually come in at a 6% Tariff rate and Chinese tariffs on Canola are reduced from 100% to 15%.
This is real progress
Idk, the fact the government told journalists to use burner phones in China … maybe reliable is not the best word.
But yea things were eventually going to slightly open up in trade.
Honestly 49k cars aren’t bad, because it’s not like the government is going to be buying them. Huawei was much worse since China would have a back door to the mobile network in Canada.
Why read a Lilley article when you can hear it straight from [Doug Ford](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/doug-ford-canadian-electric-vehicle-deal-china-9.7048225)?
Toronto Sun, as always, putting out statements with no regard to truth.
Zero record of Carney making this stat but then Torontosun is not a reliable news source
China IS proven to be more reliable under any example.
Canadians are quick to bring up 2 Michael’s as a case against China. They conveniently ignore that Canada had arrested a Chinese lady and handed her over to uncle Sam. And 2 Michaels were a reaction to that. China did NOT start it. Canada started it at behest of US and China exercised their right to return the favour.