>Greer in a separate CNBC interview called Canada’s decision “problematic” and added: “There’s a reason why we don’t sell a lot of Chinese cars in the United States. It’s because we have tariffs to protect American auto workers and Americans from those vehicles.”
You got to hand it to em, the Americans are amazing at ragebait.
Lucidspeaker on
I think this is a reflection that Carney is not betting on a good outcome with the CUSMA negotiations. I think for him to sign up to this deal is a reflection of them thinking “If things with Trump/the US are looking this bad, fuck it! We have go go someplace else.”
Le1bn1z on
The problem for the USA is that they have by far the better cards, but they showed them prematurely.
By publicly, consistently, and intensely vowing to destroy the Canadian auto, steel, and aluminum sectors, they made clear that there was no play Canada could make to get something out of choosing to stick with America on this, and so had nothing to lose.
Sadly, this also undermined our position with China, as we didn’t have the theoretical potential of a deal with America to trade away, meaning status quo ante plus auto access was all we could get.
Trololorawr on
Doubt. Our only regrets will be trusting the U.S. as our closest ally in the first place.
I recognize Canada’s pragmatic/rapid pivot towards new economic alliances is undesirable from the U.S. perspective. It’s much more difficult to force a smaller neighbouring country to become a subservient vassal state when said country has a diversified economy with broad access to the global market.
America, go fuck yourself. Canada’s moving on.
PoliticalSasquatch on
These guys need to pick a lane and stick to it.
Just yesterday the US ambassador said, and I quote “we don’t need Canada”.
Earlier this week Trump himself stated “we don’t need cars made in Canada” while calling CUSMA irrelevant.
Stability is key to good business and right now the message changes day to day. Nothing is in good faith anymore it’s strictly transactional down south and while we can work with that it just needs to stay somewhat rational.
If you don’t want to trade with Canada and don’t need us why would you care about who we are trading with?
Malstrom42 on
Just yesterday the Beaverton posted “Canada chooses lawful evil over chaotic evil” with a picture of Carney shaking Xi’s hand.
If the US wanted to keep Canada as a trading partner they should probably realize that being predictable is highly attractive
KAYD3N1 on
The news reporting that says China has cut tariffs on Canadian canola oil are vastly misleading. The 100% tariffs on canola oil remain in place. Canola seeds and Canola Meal are discussed.
China has not yet actually lowered or cut tariffs on Canadian canola oil exports, and based on the details of the recent trade agreement announced on January 16, 2026, there is no specific commitment to do so in the future either. The agreement focuses on other canola-related products but excludes oil.
Key Details from the Agreement
CANOLA SEEDS: China has agreed to lower tariffs from a combined rate of approximately 84% to 15%, effective by March 1, 2026
CANOAL MEAL: China has agreed to suspend relevant anti-discrimination tariffs (previously 100%) from March 1, 2026, through at least the end of 2026
CANOLA OIL : No tariff reductions or suspensions were mentioned in the official agreement. The existing 100% tariff, imposed as a retaliatory measure in March 2025, remains in place with no changes outlined.
ChimoEngr on
> “I think they’ll look back at this decision and surely regret it to bring Chinese cars into their market,”
Maybe, but right now we’re regretting a lot more how tied our auto industry is to the US, so Duffy isn’t saying anything we care about.
This is the US acting like the mob, threatening us for acting as we feel we should, not speaking because they actually have any concern for us.
Ciserus on
Some people are reading this as a threat, but from the context of the quote I think they mean it literally: Canada will regret letting China compete with its domestic auto industry.
Combined with Trump’s strange “That’s OK” statement, it’s a far tamer response than I worried this might provoke.
Of course this could all change with Trump’s next whim.
Motorbarge on
49,000 Chinese vehicles each year might replace 49,000 american made vehicles. I would buy one for that reason alone.
The Chinese tariff on canola is down from 84% to 15% so Saskatchewan farmers get their beaks wet, too.
Thanks Carney, elbows up!
Tt31978 on
I’d want one of those Chinese ev’s they have double the range and luxury (some of them) of any ev in North America at half the price.
Godzilla52 on
Honestly, we’ve been harming ourselves for decades due to auto industry tariffs and subsidies all to benefit a small subset of rich producers. If China wants to let its taxpayer subsidize Canadian consumers, we’d be fools to stand in their way.
lilhippie89 on
The states can cry harder. They cant tell us they dont want to trade with us and prevent us from finding new, reliable trading partners.
DontBeCommenting on
Well if you didn’t let China and Russia influence your political landscape in the first place, then maybe we wouldn’t be in that situation.
getmoresoon on
Ok, so China can send 49k ELECTRIC CARS here. Really, what Canadian built vehicles are they displacing? I don’t recall us building ANY fully electric vehicles in Canada. Im not even sure we build any hybrids (feel free to correct me). I don’t see how this risks hurting our own manufacturing sector at all.
(Unless… maybe the market really does want to shift electric… and this is the trigger event for the decline of the combustion engine car here!)
The gain with reducing Cjina’s import tariffs on other crucial Canadian industries is a massive win – with no downside that I see.
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>Greer in a separate CNBC interview called Canada’s decision “problematic” and added: “There’s a reason why we don’t sell a lot of Chinese cars in the United States. It’s because we have tariffs to protect American auto workers and Americans from those vehicles.”
You got to hand it to em, the Americans are amazing at ragebait.
I think this is a reflection that Carney is not betting on a good outcome with the CUSMA negotiations. I think for him to sign up to this deal is a reflection of them thinking “If things with Trump/the US are looking this bad, fuck it! We have go go someplace else.”
The problem for the USA is that they have by far the better cards, but they showed them prematurely.
By publicly, consistently, and intensely vowing to destroy the Canadian auto, steel, and aluminum sectors, they made clear that there was no play Canada could make to get something out of choosing to stick with America on this, and so had nothing to lose.
Sadly, this also undermined our position with China, as we didn’t have the theoretical potential of a deal with America to trade away, meaning status quo ante plus auto access was all we could get.
Doubt. Our only regrets will be trusting the U.S. as our closest ally in the first place.
I recognize Canada’s pragmatic/rapid pivot towards new economic alliances is undesirable from the U.S. perspective. It’s much more difficult to force a smaller neighbouring country to become a subservient vassal state when said country has a diversified economy with broad access to the global market.
America, go fuck yourself. Canada’s moving on.
These guys need to pick a lane and stick to it.
Just yesterday the US ambassador said, and I quote “we don’t need Canada”.
Earlier this week Trump himself stated “we don’t need cars made in Canada” while calling CUSMA irrelevant.
Stability is key to good business and right now the message changes day to day. Nothing is in good faith anymore it’s strictly transactional down south and while we can work with that it just needs to stay somewhat rational.
If you don’t want to trade with Canada and don’t need us why would you care about who we are trading with?
Just yesterday the Beaverton posted “Canada chooses lawful evil over chaotic evil” with a picture of Carney shaking Xi’s hand.
If the US wanted to keep Canada as a trading partner they should probably realize that being predictable is highly attractive
The news reporting that says China has cut tariffs on Canadian canola oil are vastly misleading. The 100% tariffs on canola oil remain in place. Canola seeds and Canola Meal are discussed.
China has not yet actually lowered or cut tariffs on Canadian canola oil exports, and based on the details of the recent trade agreement announced on January 16, 2026, there is no specific commitment to do so in the future either. The agreement focuses on other canola-related products but excludes oil.
Key Details from the Agreement
CANOLA SEEDS: China has agreed to lower tariffs from a combined rate of approximately 84% to 15%, effective by March 1, 2026
CANOAL MEAL: China has agreed to suspend relevant anti-discrimination tariffs (previously 100%) from March 1, 2026, through at least the end of 2026
CANOLA OIL : No tariff reductions or suspensions were mentioned in the official agreement. The existing 100% tariff, imposed as a retaliatory measure in March 2025, remains in place with no changes outlined.
> “I think they’ll look back at this decision and surely regret it to bring Chinese cars into their market,”
Maybe, but right now we’re regretting a lot more how tied our auto industry is to the US, so Duffy isn’t saying anything we care about.
This is the US acting like the mob, threatening us for acting as we feel we should, not speaking because they actually have any concern for us.
Some people are reading this as a threat, but from the context of the quote I think they mean it literally: Canada will regret letting China compete with its domestic auto industry.
Combined with Trump’s strange “That’s OK” statement, it’s a far tamer response than I worried this might provoke.
Of course this could all change with Trump’s next whim.
49,000 Chinese vehicles each year might replace 49,000 american made vehicles. I would buy one for that reason alone.
The Chinese tariff on canola is down from 84% to 15% so Saskatchewan farmers get their beaks wet, too.
Thanks Carney, elbows up!
I’d want one of those Chinese ev’s they have double the range and luxury (some of them) of any ev in North America at half the price.
Honestly, we’ve been harming ourselves for decades due to auto industry tariffs and subsidies all to benefit a small subset of rich producers. If China wants to let its taxpayer subsidize Canadian consumers, we’d be fools to stand in their way.
The states can cry harder. They cant tell us they dont want to trade with us and prevent us from finding new, reliable trading partners.
Well if you didn’t let China and Russia influence your political landscape in the first place, then maybe we wouldn’t be in that situation.
Ok, so China can send 49k ELECTRIC CARS here. Really, what Canadian built vehicles are they displacing? I don’t recall us building ANY fully electric vehicles in Canada. Im not even sure we build any hybrids (feel free to correct me). I don’t see how this risks hurting our own manufacturing sector at all.
(Unless… maybe the market really does want to shift electric… and this is the trigger event for the decline of the combustion engine car here!)
The gain with reducing Cjina’s import tariffs on other crucial Canadian industries is a massive win – with no downside that I see.