I get what Sanders is saying, but these women need healthcare now. Unless he has a plan to put more doctors in these rural areas within the next few months robots are the best that these people can get.
*EDIT:* FWIW, I’ve lived in Alabama for 45 years and my wife has been a nurse for 20 years and is now a nurse practitioner. I have *almost* first hand experience with the struggles rural Alabama has when it comes to healthcare. Sanders makes a good point, but the problems we have in Alabama run so deep that political talking points like this are just talk. My wife has personally worked with the state health department regarding this problem and chose this topic for a research paper when in NP school. It would take a lot of money, which Alabama doesn’t have, to provide a sustainable solution outside robots & telehealth pods.
On-mountain-time on
“SLAMS” …….. “Not cool” lol
Sapere_aude75 on
I resp Burnie for adhering to his principles more than most politicians, but what ridiculous logic. As long as it’s leading to improved outcomes for patients, then it’s a benefit. What a luddite. Might as well suggest we outlaw modern transportation to protect the horse and buggy workers.
KoalaRashCream on
If there is one industry that needs robotics it’s medicine. Doctors are useless egotistical narcissists and they like to play god.
We can easily replace doctors, lawyers and politicians with Robotics and AI and I for one can’t wait to see it.
I shouldn’t have to wait a year to get an appointment to see a doctor. That’s a failure of the system that we all currently overpay to be excluded from
EDIT: Love all you people simping for Doctors, Lawyers and Politicians.
Maleficent-Pin6798 on
They’re not autonomous robots, they’re remotely controlled by… wait for it… an OB/GYN. They’re trying to use a force multiplier instead of, you know, prioritizing women’s health care so that there is an incentive for people to become OB/GYNs and serve in rural areas, as well as more densely in cities so people can get better health; especially as this administration allegedly is worried about the declining birth rate, you’d think any measure that helps women have healthy babies would be a priority.
LuckyInvestigator717 on
this is a failed conversation from the beginning.
what you actually see on the screen is already literally robot doing measurements and analysis of beyond human comprehension complicated sonar pings bouncing around human body.
Just as MRI and CT scans using different flesh poking techniques are robots doing serious math superhuman fast.
this is the next step.
now having insufficient specialized healthcare geographical coverage is whole another story.
now obstetric ultrasound is extremely sophisticated.
now somebody needs to be responsible for clinical decisions and procedure performing based on ultrasound and other context invisible to machine
that is the problem.
diablo1086 on
They do keyhole robotic prostate surgery as well where a surgeon controls the robot. Been going on for well over a decade and the procedure itself is a game changer. Why didn’t Bernie slam anyone for that?
I get the hate against AI and robotics, but this is not the right battle
Draugron on
Misleading title.
Sanders isn’t “slamming” Oz for praising robot ultrasounds.
He’s reiterating the point that the issue with Healthcare, and with rural Healthcare especially, is that the profit motive is disincentivizing people to enter those fields and meet needs in underserved areas. And so the admin, rather than focusing on a solution that we all know will work, is choosing instead to invest in high-tech stopgaps that may or may not work.
Edit: corrected misspelling.
W0gg0 on
Please clarify. Not sure if obstetrics or infrasound crowd control weapons.
VaguelyArtistic on
This is such a vulnerable time for women and all of the hand waving away of the need for a human in the room seems to be missing something.
readitareyoudeaf on
Couple things with this. The average doctor doesn’t know how to perform an ultrasound. A few OBGYN’s know the basics. If you want a decent ultrasound done correctly, you need a registered sonographer. Even their solution is subpar.
taylorjosephrummel on
“Slams.” AGAIN.
Adventurous_Mix_8533 on
What you gotta ask yourself is, would Oprah have this Mehmet Oz on her show? Is the perception I formed watching his show during it’s evolution of promoting health options and living tips that moved from a path that made sense to one that seemingly endorsed things that kept the lights on. If you doubt watch his show. I have formed the opinion he will now do anything for money and has absolutely no ethics. If he’s promoting AI anything, he’s getting paid.
Glittering-Bike-8466 on
Wtf is this title lmao
probablymagic on
>In the richest country on earth, we need more doctors, nurses, dentists and mental health counselors, not more robots.”
I mean, why not both? Healthcare is extremely expensive because the people who do things like ultrasounds need to get paid and there aren’t enough of them. If we can automate some of that work it will save patients money and free up healthcare workers to serve more people.
The fact Bernie thinks that’s bad is why we need to get these ancient people of politics and elect people born after electricity was invented.
Even_Fox2023 on
I swear my wood shop teacher from high school is writing these headlines.
therealwavingsnail on
Who’s giving robots ultrasounds? Are the robots pregnant?
CreedogV on
When the robot apocalypse comes, the robots will be able to use our own arguments as to why we should be slaves instead of pets.
rabbidrascal on
With the trillion dollar reduction in Medicaid, many rural hospitals and health centers will close. RFK jr has indicated that AI healthcare is the solution to rural hospitals closing. RFK will be seen as the single most deadly official in history.
VictorCrackus on
Was it a german suplex sorta slam or did her go full powerbomb?
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I get what Sanders is saying, but these women need healthcare now. Unless he has a plan to put more doctors in these rural areas within the next few months robots are the best that these people can get.
*EDIT:* FWIW, I’ve lived in Alabama for 45 years and my wife has been a nurse for 20 years and is now a nurse practitioner. I have *almost* first hand experience with the struggles rural Alabama has when it comes to healthcare. Sanders makes a good point, but the problems we have in Alabama run so deep that political talking points like this are just talk. My wife has personally worked with the state health department regarding this problem and chose this topic for a research paper when in NP school. It would take a lot of money, which Alabama doesn’t have, to provide a sustainable solution outside robots & telehealth pods.
“SLAMS” …….. “Not cool” lol
I resp Burnie for adhering to his principles more than most politicians, but what ridiculous logic. As long as it’s leading to improved outcomes for patients, then it’s a benefit. What a luddite. Might as well suggest we outlaw modern transportation to protect the horse and buggy workers.
If there is one industry that needs robotics it’s medicine. Doctors are useless egotistical narcissists and they like to play god.
We can easily replace doctors, lawyers and politicians with Robotics and AI and I for one can’t wait to see it.
I shouldn’t have to wait a year to get an appointment to see a doctor. That’s a failure of the system that we all currently overpay to be excluded from
EDIT: Love all you people simping for Doctors, Lawyers and Politicians.
They’re not autonomous robots, they’re remotely controlled by… wait for it… an OB/GYN. They’re trying to use a force multiplier instead of, you know, prioritizing women’s health care so that there is an incentive for people to become OB/GYNs and serve in rural areas, as well as more densely in cities so people can get better health; especially as this administration allegedly is worried about the declining birth rate, you’d think any measure that helps women have healthy babies would be a priority.
this is a failed conversation from the beginning.
what you actually see on the screen is already literally robot doing measurements and analysis of beyond human comprehension complicated sonar pings bouncing around human body.
Just as MRI and CT scans using different flesh poking techniques are robots doing serious math superhuman fast.
this is the next step.
now having insufficient specialized healthcare geographical coverage is whole another story.
now obstetric ultrasound is extremely sophisticated.
now somebody needs to be responsible for clinical decisions and procedure performing based on ultrasound and other context invisible to machine
that is the problem.
They do keyhole robotic prostate surgery as well where a surgeon controls the robot. Been going on for well over a decade and the procedure itself is a game changer. Why didn’t Bernie slam anyone for that?
I get the hate against AI and robotics, but this is not the right battle
Misleading title.
Sanders isn’t “slamming” Oz for praising robot ultrasounds.
He’s reiterating the point that the issue with Healthcare, and with rural Healthcare especially, is that the profit motive is disincentivizing people to enter those fields and meet needs in underserved areas. And so the admin, rather than focusing on a solution that we all know will work, is choosing instead to invest in high-tech stopgaps that may or may not work.
Edit: corrected misspelling.
Please clarify. Not sure if obstetrics or infrasound crowd control weapons.
This is such a vulnerable time for women and all of the hand waving away of the need for a human in the room seems to be missing something.
Couple things with this. The average doctor doesn’t know how to perform an ultrasound. A few OBGYN’s know the basics. If you want a decent ultrasound done correctly, you need a registered sonographer. Even their solution is subpar.
“Slams.” AGAIN.
What you gotta ask yourself is, would Oprah have this Mehmet Oz on her show? Is the perception I formed watching his show during it’s evolution of promoting health options and living tips that moved from a path that made sense to one that seemingly endorsed things that kept the lights on. If you doubt watch his show. I have formed the opinion he will now do anything for money and has absolutely no ethics. If he’s promoting AI anything, he’s getting paid.
Wtf is this title lmao
>In the richest country on earth, we need more doctors, nurses, dentists and mental health counselors, not more robots.”
I mean, why not both? Healthcare is extremely expensive because the people who do things like ultrasounds need to get paid and there aren’t enough of them. If we can automate some of that work it will save patients money and free up healthcare workers to serve more people.
The fact Bernie thinks that’s bad is why we need to get these ancient people of politics and elect people born after electricity was invented.
I swear my wood shop teacher from high school is writing these headlines.
Who’s giving robots ultrasounds? Are the robots pregnant?
When the robot apocalypse comes, the robots will be able to use our own arguments as to why we should be slaves instead of pets.
With the trillion dollar reduction in Medicaid, many rural hospitals and health centers will close. RFK jr has indicated that AI healthcare is the solution to rural hospitals closing. RFK will be seen as the single most deadly official in history.
Was it a german suplex sorta slam or did her go full powerbomb?