I mean…all they do is raise prices for us further. There needs to be another reaction tho. Block Visas for American visitors or something.
Primary-Effect-3691 on
Like or not there’s a line that need to be toed with the US. Brexit mean Brexit and all that.
elmo298 on
So glad he’s just signed hundreds of millions to neo Nazis at Palantir
justmoochin on
People say he’s spineless but certain situations aren’t always an eye for an eye.
Adm_Shelby2 on
Tariffs are stupid, the orange one loves them because he doesn’t understand them, why would we follow his example?
ediblednb on
Good speech. Diplomacy. Stay calm. It’s Trump. He’s unpredictable. He could go back on his word by the end of today. No point making rash decisions as yet. I’d rather keep our heads than go in all guns blazing at this point.
Heuchelei on
Boycotting the World Cup will do more damage to the US and Trump than any retaliatory tariffs will.
Numerous_Green4962 on
What good would they do? Tariffs have never proven to be an effective tool and are in reality just another tax on the population, something he’d be pilloried for in the press if he introduced them.
MrEoss on
I just listened to his address and I have to be honest, he talked me back down off the ledge. He is the opposite of a hot head and is that old traditional steady politician that I think I didn’t realise we need when surrounded by chaos. A damp dish cloth is a good way to quell a small fire
Dapper-Bird-8016 on
Make all supermarkets highlight British products to make boycotts easier
KoontFace on
Presumably because everyone knows that tariffs are stupid and don’t work?
Anyales on
I get people want to stand up to the orange goon but hes right. Unlike the last round tit for tat taiffs will not get the US to change their mind it just further weakens the UK economy.
These are tariffs imposed to bully us into his Greenland annexation. So its irrelevant what we tariff from the US it won’t improve the UKs position.
This is what we voted for with Brexit, we are alone now on the international stage. The EU can band together and make a difference, we on the other hand are weak and have to play the cards we are dealt.
wookiewithabrush on
To be fair, Trump would only re-retaliate anyway, and where does that get anyone?
JimmoBM on
If you cancel anything American and it asks for a reason, everyone should just enter “Your President”
Thorazine_Chaser on
This is the right thing to do. There is an imminent ruling coming from the US supreme court on the legality of the broad (non sectoral) tariffs Trump introduced. Pundits suggest a very high chance that they will be ruled illegal and overturned. This latest bluster will be exactly the same.
Not fanning the flames of this trade war is exactly what sensible serious politicians should do when they know the situation in the US.
This isn’t a silly game where we should encourage politicians to score points. Calm the waters.
dick_piana on
I feel like he should strongly reconsider the MOD contract with Palantir (and all the others with them too, tbh). I understand this will lead to more backlash from Trump, but its clearly a vulnerability
KinnyWater on
They’re far from perfect but Labour are far and away our best option politically in the UK.
hereforcontroversy on
If the UK and EU countries threaten to sell their American bonds, which would completely destroy the US economy, this will go away fairly quickly.
GamerGuyAlly on
I agree counter tariffs make little sense but we need go retaliate.
Id be looking to make a statement on one of the big billionaires. Or just a couple of high profile Americans. Wont take very long to dig up something to pursue, either tax or criminal. Then hit them with a big bill or ban from the country.
Closing his golf course would be another good jab.
tipytopmain on
Keir Starmer rules out raising costs for his own citizens in retaliation to Trump raising costs for Americans.
PositiveUniversity80 on
Cool heads are one thing, but there needed to be a line drawn in the sand here, and he fluffed it. “Sanctions are stupid, this is completely unacceptable, we stand 100% with Denmark and Greenland, if this issue is not dropped we will be forced to retaliate”
You can talk softly as much as you like, but if it’s not clear you’ve got a big stick it means fuck all.
This has serious echoes of a waved piece of paper.
No_Story5313 on
I’m not convinced on Starmer as a politician but accept he’s in a horrendous position on this, and that kind of speech was what we needed in the face of such erratic volatility.Â
We’ll never win a retaliation tariff war if we enter one. Besides, if we did use tarrifs on the US, then it legitimises the US using them on everyone else.
WestCareer7545 on
All European teams should pull out of the World Cup, and boycott all the American crap we get shoved down our throats
brexit-unicorn on
Duh? Reverse Brexit and give doughnut dump the finger. Seeing the UK back in & trading with the EU would give the orange turd a coronary.
RoryLuukas on
You know what would be an absolutely AMAZING way for us to get back at Trump…
How about we make these American oligarchs and their corporations ACTUALLY PAY THEIR TAXES in this country… wouldn’t that be something??
cragglerock93 on
Let’s be serious – who’d want to be PM at this point in time. Even Badenoch is probably happy not to be dealing with this. I’d say the same of Farage but I doubt he’d give a fuck about Greenland and would instead be lobbying all the other European leaders to roll over.
lime-csh on
We did this to ourselves, the EU have each other. Brexit means we have no body
Ironclad686 on
Unless Greenland is something that Daddy Putin wants him to go for this is just a distraction from the Epstein files. Get people outraged about the idea of something else and hope it all blows over. I’ve never said this about anyone but I can’t wait until he’s dead. He embodies everything wrong with the human race.
IceRepresentative925 on
US tariffs will raise prices for Americans not for us. It won’t directly affect British consumers at all. It wil affect british companies trading in the US.
SEAN0_91 on
We need a collective effort to boycott everything as possible that comes from the USA
meharryp on
this is a completely reasonable thing to do- a trade war would be terrible, but I would like to at least see us completely end the special relationship with the US. This greenland shit is completely unacceptable and we shouldn’t want a “special relationship” with any country that tries something similar
ArmNo7463 on
Good shout, – Just because America wants to punch itself in the face with taxes, I see no reason to join that suicide pact.
bduk92 on
Smart move because it’s the UK side that’d pay those tariffs.
The tariffs imposed by Trump will be paid for by American companies and consumers for their purchases of UK goods/services.
Smooth_Imagination on
Everything needed to win is stalling and postponing, not squarely provoking. US vastly outmatches us conventionally, but we can therefore only win asymetrically. Patience and the long game is not a US strength, because they normally dont need it and governments change regularly and popular support only is prolonfed if there is genuine threat.Â
They were never going to win Vietnam because US resolve is short term unless existentially threatened at home, therefore the needed popular support will not be sufficient for long drawn out conflict.Â
Here its a much subtler situation, but Trump doesnt have the capacity to sustain nor would there be popular support for this kind of foreign policy over extended periods.Â
It makes more sense to play a different very long game aimed at subtle influence of the information space and influencing loyalties in the US political sphere, similar to how Israel does it.
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I mean…all they do is raise prices for us further. There needs to be another reaction tho. Block Visas for American visitors or something.
Like or not there’s a line that need to be toed with the US. Brexit mean Brexit and all that.
So glad he’s just signed hundreds of millions to neo Nazis at Palantir
People say he’s spineless but certain situations aren’t always an eye for an eye.
Tariffs are stupid, the orange one loves them because he doesn’t understand them, why would we follow his example?
Good speech. Diplomacy. Stay calm. It’s Trump. He’s unpredictable. He could go back on his word by the end of today. No point making rash decisions as yet. I’d rather keep our heads than go in all guns blazing at this point.
Boycotting the World Cup will do more damage to the US and Trump than any retaliatory tariffs will.
What good would they do? Tariffs have never proven to be an effective tool and are in reality just another tax on the population, something he’d be pilloried for in the press if he introduced them.
I just listened to his address and I have to be honest, he talked me back down off the ledge. He is the opposite of a hot head and is that old traditional steady politician that I think I didn’t realise we need when surrounded by chaos. A damp dish cloth is a good way to quell a small fire
Make all supermarkets highlight British products to make boycotts easier
Presumably because everyone knows that tariffs are stupid and don’t work?
I get people want to stand up to the orange goon but hes right. Unlike the last round tit for tat taiffs will not get the US to change their mind it just further weakens the UK economy.
These are tariffs imposed to bully us into his Greenland annexation. So its irrelevant what we tariff from the US it won’t improve the UKs position.
This is what we voted for with Brexit, we are alone now on the international stage. The EU can band together and make a difference, we on the other hand are weak and have to play the cards we are dealt.
To be fair, Trump would only re-retaliate anyway, and where does that get anyone?
If you cancel anything American and it asks for a reason, everyone should just enter “Your President”
This is the right thing to do. There is an imminent ruling coming from the US supreme court on the legality of the broad (non sectoral) tariffs Trump introduced. Pundits suggest a very high chance that they will be ruled illegal and overturned. This latest bluster will be exactly the same.
Not fanning the flames of this trade war is exactly what sensible serious politicians should do when they know the situation in the US.
This isn’t a silly game where we should encourage politicians to score points. Calm the waters.
I feel like he should strongly reconsider the MOD contract with Palantir (and all the others with them too, tbh). I understand this will lead to more backlash from Trump, but its clearly a vulnerability
They’re far from perfect but Labour are far and away our best option politically in the UK.
If the UK and EU countries threaten to sell their American bonds, which would completely destroy the US economy, this will go away fairly quickly.
I agree counter tariffs make little sense but we need go retaliate.
Id be looking to make a statement on one of the big billionaires. Or just a couple of high profile Americans. Wont take very long to dig up something to pursue, either tax or criminal. Then hit them with a big bill or ban from the country.
Closing his golf course would be another good jab.
Keir Starmer rules out raising costs for his own citizens in retaliation to Trump raising costs for Americans.
Cool heads are one thing, but there needed to be a line drawn in the sand here, and he fluffed it. “Sanctions are stupid, this is completely unacceptable, we stand 100% with Denmark and Greenland, if this issue is not dropped we will be forced to retaliate”
You can talk softly as much as you like, but if it’s not clear you’ve got a big stick it means fuck all.
This has serious echoes of a waved piece of paper.
I’m not convinced on Starmer as a politician but accept he’s in a horrendous position on this, and that kind of speech was what we needed in the face of such erratic volatility.Â
We’ll never win a retaliation tariff war if we enter one. Besides, if we did use tarrifs on the US, then it legitimises the US using them on everyone else.
All European teams should pull out of the World Cup, and boycott all the American crap we get shoved down our throats
Duh? Reverse Brexit and give doughnut dump the finger. Seeing the UK back in & trading with the EU would give the orange turd a coronary.
You know what would be an absolutely AMAZING way for us to get back at Trump…
How about we make these American oligarchs and their corporations ACTUALLY PAY THEIR TAXES in this country… wouldn’t that be something??
Let’s be serious – who’d want to be PM at this point in time. Even Badenoch is probably happy not to be dealing with this. I’d say the same of Farage but I doubt he’d give a fuck about Greenland and would instead be lobbying all the other European leaders to roll over.
We did this to ourselves, the EU have each other. Brexit means we have no body
Unless Greenland is something that Daddy Putin wants him to go for this is just a distraction from the Epstein files. Get people outraged about the idea of something else and hope it all blows over. I’ve never said this about anyone but I can’t wait until he’s dead. He embodies everything wrong with the human race.
US tariffs will raise prices for Americans not for us. It won’t directly affect British consumers at all. It wil affect british companies trading in the US.
We need a collective effort to boycott everything as possible that comes from the USA
this is a completely reasonable thing to do- a trade war would be terrible, but I would like to at least see us completely end the special relationship with the US. This greenland shit is completely unacceptable and we shouldn’t want a “special relationship” with any country that tries something similar
Good shout, – Just because America wants to punch itself in the face with taxes, I see no reason to join that suicide pact.
Smart move because it’s the UK side that’d pay those tariffs.
The tariffs imposed by Trump will be paid for by American companies and consumers for their purchases of UK goods/services.
Everything needed to win is stalling and postponing, not squarely provoking. US vastly outmatches us conventionally, but we can therefore only win asymetrically. Patience and the long game is not a US strength, because they normally dont need it and governments change regularly and popular support only is prolonfed if there is genuine threat.Â
They were never going to win Vietnam because US resolve is short term unless existentially threatened at home, therefore the needed popular support will not be sufficient for long drawn out conflict.Â
Here its a much subtler situation, but Trump doesnt have the capacity to sustain nor would there be popular support for this kind of foreign policy over extended periods.Â
It makes more sense to play a different very long game aimed at subtle influence of the information space and influencing loyalties in the US political sphere, similar to how Israel does it.