I’d be surprised if this doesn’t become a larger trend, even if just from a purely pragmatic perspective.
The longer the US goes in this direction, the more volatile our markets and currency will become. Our policies are already disturbingly unpredictable and illogical.
Yes the breakdown will impact the global market in general, but at least other countries are working/trading together normally enough that it’s a safer bet to get out of the US
(Just my thoughts, I’m not an economist)
cyclemonster on
For every seller there has to be a matching buyer.
PirateHunterLife on
Sell off treasury funds only for billionaires to buy them up and really own the government
Ijnefvijefnvifdjvkm on
They don’t really need to sell. Europe could just announce that they are never again buying us treasuries.
Ascomae on
I think this is a sign. A warning. Just a little money like “look, wgat we could”.
Nim0y on
Dump them all, as an American we won’t learn if we don’t see a consequence.
ouath on
Bond age good or bad ?
Moist-Emergency-3030 on
This is very very very small amount. FYI outstanding US treasuries is around 35 trillion. This is barely error. Likely already planned. It’s not the news we all hope for and not something to get excited over. Decoupling from US treasuries will take a lot longer than people want.
copperblood on
The US has the strongest military in the world, but what good is that if you can’t feed and pay them. The rest of Europe needs to dump their US Treasury Securities as well, which will send a clear message even Trump and his administration will understand.
As an American, it pains me to say this but the US is done. The US cannot be trusted to lead anymore. Time for someone else to. And at the end of the day the only people Americans can blame is ourselves.
Cav829 on
The bond market has been flashing a lot of crazy warnings lately that equity investors don’t want to hear because they’re drunk off bull market profits. Liberation Day should have been a warning to everyone when a massive bond sell-off happened rather than an influx from equities. The 10-year and 30 year-year are spiking between U.S. policies and the massive rate spike in Japanese bonds. The U.S. has trillions of debt that has to be re-financed in the near future and 6+ months of work to get rates under control just went out the window.
This is a nice little warning shot fired the U.S.’s way to remind them the rest of the world doesn’t need bullets to do damage them.
Bitter_Director1231 on
Everybody who has US Treasuries should drop them.
Get them without firing a shot.
It wil cripple the US to begging status
richarm87 on
Likely just a toe in the water approach. See what the ripple effects will be and go from there.
writethegeek on
**SELL AMERICAN TREASURY BONDS AND OTHER INVESTMENTS**
👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆
If you want to get the attention of Trump and Corporations running America… **Tank our economy.**
**MONEY IS THE ONLY THING THEY CARE ABOUT**
👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆
I will be one of the ones that will feel this but it’s the only thing that change the course we are on.
**We, being decent human beings, (FOR THOSE THAT ARE MAGA… THIS IS NOT YOU) will survive this.**
AhBee1 on
Seeing as I had an American public school education, can someone explain what does any of this mean please.
New-Equal8039 on
Get Trump out. He is fucking us over!
ghallway on
Trump needs to be stopped. This has gone too far.
evasivebanman on
This is a warning shot ICYDK
Ld862 on
This is very bad news for Americans – hyperinflation is coming.
jert3 on
Makes sense. The economic superpower of Anerixa is transistioning to an isolationist, aggresive new fascist empire, allied more with other despots than modern democracies. On this course the collapse of the USD as the reserve currency is very likely, and China’s taking the place, so of course it is sensible to ditch treasuries.
SlowMotionSprint on
As bad as his handling of a COVID was, the one benefit it had to Trump was it overshadowed how bad he was for the economy.
Most presidential administration policies have lagging indicators. Trump was one of the few presidents where you could see how bad his economic policies were in real-time.
But they were able to push the blame for those onto COVID even though the damage was done long before the pandemic started.
kegisak on
So for the less financially literate of us, what are the expected impacts of this? I imagine it’ll be a hit to the US economy, but I’m not really sure how. Will this also have knock-on effects for the rest of the world?
hockeygirl634 on
This will hose US faster than any bullet or bomb and us just a drop in the bucket of what is to come from global bond holders (China etc).
xParesh on
S&P is already down 2% today – wiping off $1.23tn.
Its not going to take many actors to act to to cause some very big damage to the US’s finances and pension funds.
This was always going to be an economic war first.
We allow know stocks fall on bad news, then they source of the problem is removed and they then back bounce.
Seeing your 401ks dropping temporarily while the source of the problem is problem fixed isn’t such a bad thing in the grand scheme of things
zendrumz on
I dumped all my treasuries and divested completely from US equities a year ago. The US economy is now just a casino run by trump, where all the games are rigged by trump. No thanks.
Smart-Protection-845 on
Europe should quietly start dumping treasuries since we have the biggest share
zyarva on
I am in an investment forum and the vibe in there is “the stock is not falling, I guess it will be okay to grab Maduro and Greenland” or “What stock to buy if we get greenland”. These people cares nothing except their portfolio. This is what capitalist does to people, they confuse money with moral.
patriot2024 on
Poor man Biden will got blamed for this. 100%
Jokong on
Global people and businesses that have tons of capital benefit from the dollar collapsing. Trump is a Russian asset and Putin is demanding the end of the US dollar and the end of NATO.
Get ready for prices to go up and the value of your dollar to plunge. And world, get ready for America when it gets hungry. We still have the largest military in the world, are apparently in league with Russia to conquer Europe and I expect we’ll see general strikes if this keeps up.
hughcifer-106103 on
Soon the $ will cease to be the world’s reserve currency and it will massively crash due to the debt run up by Dump and Republicans that only works if we’re the reserve currency. Say bye bye to the vast American wealth overnight if that happens.
SeveredAMainVein on
But that orange fucker said America is hot
jnmjnmjnm on
Look at the gold chart the past few days/weeks
thisismybench on
I work in Real Estate, largely institutional investors like pensions with billions invested indirectly through funds, with large US allocations. Many of the conversations I’m having across European clients show they’re winding down their positions in the US and refocusing in new markets, like Europe and APAC.
Top-Bandicoot-3013 on
If the world stands at a point to drop the US dollar, it will be a good thing.
Low_Presentation8149 on
Anf thus it begins
EmperorXerro on
People don’t realize how much US debt Europe owns. The tariff card really only works once, then countries adapt. Trump played the card too early and on something stupid.
CoachParticular8878 on
The US Dollar is about to become weaker then the Mexico peso
VagueSomething on
Gen Alpha will be the last generation to remember the USA being the default Superpower of the world.
citiclosethrowaway on
$100MM is a drop in the bucket…
GreenGlassDrgn on
Another fun fact is that if you have any american financial dealings that require you to report to the IRS, most banks in Denmark will refuse to have you as a customer.
Ebisu_2023 on
Wait until he pushes Powell out. A hard rain is gonna fall.
andreasbeer1981 on
Why do they keep saying “treasurys”? who writes these articles at cnbc?
TheFutureMrGittes on
Countries should start selling off their US Treasuries. No need to talk to the administration. Time for talk is over
kaliumiodi on
All of that because some old orange man didnt get a worthless prize nobody cares about.
readerf52 on
This will cause some real economic damage.
Other countries have been signaling that they might do the same.
This would damage all of the economies involved, but the US will experience the worst consequences.
So can someone tell me: was the “great” in MAGA the Great Depression? Because we’re almost there.
CaribouJovial on
That admin is going to become a cautionary tale in every History books..
GGGI on
USA hatred is not forced enough
One_Glass_7496 on
The dominoes have started falling. Time to pull your money out of the US stock market.
48 Comments
Sell baby sell
I’d be surprised if this doesn’t become a larger trend, even if just from a purely pragmatic perspective.
The longer the US goes in this direction, the more volatile our markets and currency will become. Our policies are already disturbingly unpredictable and illogical.
Yes the breakdown will impact the global market in general, but at least other countries are working/trading together normally enough that it’s a safer bet to get out of the US
(Just my thoughts, I’m not an economist)
For every seller there has to be a matching buyer.
Sell off treasury funds only for billionaires to buy them up and really own the government
They don’t really need to sell. Europe could just announce that they are never again buying us treasuries.
I think this is a sign. A warning. Just a little money like “look, wgat we could”.
Dump them all, as an American we won’t learn if we don’t see a consequence.
Bond age good or bad ?
This is very very very small amount. FYI outstanding US treasuries is around 35 trillion. This is barely error. Likely already planned. It’s not the news we all hope for and not something to get excited over. Decoupling from US treasuries will take a lot longer than people want.
The US has the strongest military in the world, but what good is that if you can’t feed and pay them. The rest of Europe needs to dump their US Treasury Securities as well, which will send a clear message even Trump and his administration will understand.
As an American, it pains me to say this but the US is done. The US cannot be trusted to lead anymore. Time for someone else to. And at the end of the day the only people Americans can blame is ourselves.
The bond market has been flashing a lot of crazy warnings lately that equity investors don’t want to hear because they’re drunk off bull market profits. Liberation Day should have been a warning to everyone when a massive bond sell-off happened rather than an influx from equities. The 10-year and 30 year-year are spiking between U.S. policies and the massive rate spike in Japanese bonds. The U.S. has trillions of debt that has to be re-financed in the near future and 6+ months of work to get rates under control just went out the window.
This is a nice little warning shot fired the U.S.’s way to remind them the rest of the world doesn’t need bullets to do damage them.
Everybody who has US Treasuries should drop them.
Get them without firing a shot.
It wil cripple the US to begging status
Likely just a toe in the water approach. See what the ripple effects will be and go from there.
**SELL AMERICAN TREASURY BONDS AND OTHER INVESTMENTS**
👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆
If you want to get the attention of Trump and Corporations running America… **Tank our economy.**
**MONEY IS THE ONLY THING THEY CARE ABOUT**
👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆
I will be one of the ones that will feel this but it’s the only thing that change the course we are on.
**We, being decent human beings, (FOR THOSE THAT ARE MAGA… THIS IS NOT YOU) will survive this.**
Seeing as I had an American public school education, can someone explain what does any of this mean please.
Get Trump out. He is fucking us over!
Trump needs to be stopped. This has gone too far.
This is a warning shot ICYDK
This is very bad news for Americans – hyperinflation is coming.
Makes sense. The economic superpower of Anerixa is transistioning to an isolationist, aggresive new fascist empire, allied more with other despots than modern democracies. On this course the collapse of the USD as the reserve currency is very likely, and China’s taking the place, so of course it is sensible to ditch treasuries.
As bad as his handling of a COVID was, the one benefit it had to Trump was it overshadowed how bad he was for the economy.
Most presidential administration policies have lagging indicators. Trump was one of the few presidents where you could see how bad his economic policies were in real-time.
But they were able to push the blame for those onto COVID even though the damage was done long before the pandemic started.
So for the less financially literate of us, what are the expected impacts of this? I imagine it’ll be a hit to the US economy, but I’m not really sure how. Will this also have knock-on effects for the rest of the world?
This will hose US faster than any bullet or bomb and us just a drop in the bucket of what is to come from global bond holders (China etc).
S&P is already down 2% today – wiping off $1.23tn.
Its not going to take many actors to act to to cause some very big damage to the US’s finances and pension funds.
This was always going to be an economic war first.
We allow know stocks fall on bad news, then they source of the problem is removed and they then back bounce.
Seeing your 401ks dropping temporarily while the source of the problem is problem fixed isn’t such a bad thing in the grand scheme of things
I dumped all my treasuries and divested completely from US equities a year ago. The US economy is now just a casino run by trump, where all the games are rigged by trump. No thanks.
Europe should quietly start dumping treasuries since we have the biggest share
I am in an investment forum and the vibe in there is “the stock is not falling, I guess it will be okay to grab Maduro and Greenland” or “What stock to buy if we get greenland”. These people cares nothing except their portfolio. This is what capitalist does to people, they confuse money with moral.
Poor man Biden will got blamed for this. 100%
Global people and businesses that have tons of capital benefit from the dollar collapsing. Trump is a Russian asset and Putin is demanding the end of the US dollar and the end of NATO.
Get ready for prices to go up and the value of your dollar to plunge. And world, get ready for America when it gets hungry. We still have the largest military in the world, are apparently in league with Russia to conquer Europe and I expect we’ll see general strikes if this keeps up.
Soon the $ will cease to be the world’s reserve currency and it will massively crash due to the debt run up by Dump and Republicans that only works if we’re the reserve currency. Say bye bye to the vast American wealth overnight if that happens.
But that orange fucker said America is hot
Look at the gold chart the past few days/weeks
I work in Real Estate, largely institutional investors like pensions with billions invested indirectly through funds, with large US allocations. Many of the conversations I’m having across European clients show they’re winding down their positions in the US and refocusing in new markets, like Europe and APAC.
If the world stands at a point to drop the US dollar, it will be a good thing.
Anf thus it begins
People don’t realize how much US debt Europe owns. The tariff card really only works once, then countries adapt. Trump played the card too early and on something stupid.
The US Dollar is about to become weaker then the Mexico peso
Gen Alpha will be the last generation to remember the USA being the default Superpower of the world.
$100MM is a drop in the bucket…
Another fun fact is that if you have any american financial dealings that require you to report to the IRS, most banks in Denmark will refuse to have you as a customer.
Wait until he pushes Powell out. A hard rain is gonna fall.
Why do they keep saying “treasurys”? who writes these articles at cnbc?
Countries should start selling off their US Treasuries. No need to talk to the administration. Time for talk is over
All of that because some old orange man didnt get a worthless prize nobody cares about.
This will cause some real economic damage.
Other countries have been signaling that they might do the same.
This would damage all of the economies involved, but the US will experience the worst consequences.
So can someone tell me: was the “great” in MAGA the Great Depression? Because we’re almost there.
That admin is going to become a cautionary tale in every History books..
USA hatred is not forced enough
The dominoes have started falling. Time to pull your money out of the US stock market.