Its pretty clear Carney is trying to wrangle the Europeans into forming a third rail against BRICS and the US.
The remaining west will get eaten alive if we split but still have economic and burgeoning military power together.
OcelotStraight9145 on
Mucho respect! Calling it like it is!
MVP_Legend_87 on
That is a fantastic speech.
BigButtBeads on
“The hope that compliance will buy safety; well it wont”
A bit ironic
ex-surreal_killer on
I hope Mr Carney has the best security detail and that every precaution is taken to ensure his protection as he flies around the world making deals and giving speeches that are 100% bound to piss off the US, because I don’t trust them to just let him become the leader of the middle powers of the world, which I totally think he is capable of.
pyfinx on
It was really impressive!
EhGrillGuy on
Carney called it like it is. Time for us to stop pretending and letting the customer dictate the terms. They (US) have the population. We have what they need. And collectively have if we all work together. Time to collectively make a stand against the playground bully.
PreWiBa on
One of the, if not THE best speech about the current state of affairs.
Saying like it is, without insulting anyone.
Weekly-Sun7992 on
Well said. Interesting times they said… I would rather have boring and prosperous.
Golfandrun on
That speech will live on for a very long time. We have the right PM. Maybe the most qualified person to steer the ship through the storm ahead.
T-Rex-Plays on
Every Canadian should watch it in its entirety.
adwrx on
Thank God Canada voted for this guy! Imagine PP during this time.
WinterDustDevil on
He told (diplomaticly) t.rump and the excited states of america to Fuck Off, we don’t need or care about you.
My Man with his elbows up.
morenewsat11 on
Proud to have Carney represent Canada.
> So, Canada. Canada has what the world wants. We are an energy superpower. We hold vast reserves of critical minerals. We have the most educated population in the world. Our pension funds are amongst the world’s largest and most sophisticated investors. In other words, we have capital talent. We also have a government with immense fiscal capacity to act decisively. And we have the values to which many others aspire.
> Canada is a pluralistic society that works. Our public square is loud, diverse and free. Canadians remain committed to sustainability. We are a stable and reliable partner in a world that is anything but, a partner that builds and values relationships for the long term.
> And we have something else: we have a recognition of what’s happening and determination to act accordingly. We understand that this rupture calls for more than adaptation. It calls for honesty about the world as it is.
…
> The powerful have their power. But we have something too: the capacity to stop pretending, to name realities, to build our strength at home, and to act together.
> That is Canada’s path. We choose it openly and confidently, and it is a path wide open to any country willing to take it with us.
Aggressive-Cow8074 on
Great speech and all. Too bad it’s over most American’s heads….
“Hegemony”…..”asymmetrically”….
Fuhgeddaboudit!
asmyladysuffolksaith on
I’m conservative, but I gave the liberals a shot in the recent election. Glad I did, and so far I’m impressed how Mr. Carney is navigating the mess created by the gangster down south.
And that speech was a great listen.
WurstCaseOntario007 on
First leader to tell it like it is.
createsean on
Real leadership. Mark Carney a true world leader and the best Prime Minister Canada could have in these difficult times.
AngryOcelot on
Amazing speech.
I doubt the Americans will be able to craft a narrative to poke holes in this speech so they’ll just suppress its coverage.
slider1010 on
Centre-right Canadian guy here, traditionally conservative. We have the right guy running this country. I can’t tell you the last time I was this proud of our Prime Minister’s words and actions.
corduroy_pillows on
Some Conservatives I know are saying he made a clown of himself and the country on the world stage.
We live in different realities.
HW6969 on
He’s decent but needs to be pushed much more progressive. Much better with environment, labour, housing, taxing the morbidly rich etc.
Exciting_Squirrel_84 on
I listened to it several times and cried every time. We’re lucky to have him.
missezri on
It is a balm to listen to someone who can actually form a proper sentence.
It is going to get messy, real messy, but I have some hope it can be weathered.
gamjatang111 on
Refreshing to see someone who is not a career politician leading the country.
michyfor on
Thank you to all those fellow Canadians who value education, self-improvement and who uphold progressive values. Collectively we made this happen – we voted for a leader that only happens once in a lifetime, that is unlike all the toxic insanity happening south of us and within the zealot maple extremist versions of that right here at home.
We chose a respectable, super competent leader who is not only working to improve Canada in this new direction we are forced to head in, he is widely praised on the world stage. Today is a proud day for Canada.
Word on the street is he wrote his own speech.
karafili on
a really concise and wake-up speech
sailing_by_the_lee on
That was a great speech. It had all the important points:
1. We have to live in reality, not just hope that Trump will die soon and then things will go back to normal. They won’t. This isn’t a transition, but a rupture.
2. Hegrmons like the USA can use threats, raw military and economic power, and transactionalism successfully for a short period, but it has diminishing returns over time.
3. We middle powers are vulnerable right now because we trusted the Americans and the rules and institutions they lead after WW2, which were mutually beneficial. But the USA has now decided to use that trust and economic integration as a weapon. Thus, middle powers must combine together to make new rules, agreements, and institutions that reduce our vulnerability to hostile hegemonic actors.
Although he didn’t say it outright, Carney also pretty strongly implied that the middle powers will have to play the US and China off of one another until we can be less reliant on them. The USA and China won’t have a Cold War-style clash of ideologies, but rather they’ll be competing for international markets, and we can benefit from that if we play our cards right.
itsthebear on
“This bargain no longer works”
Unless you’re China, apparently. Make no mistake, the pivot is entirely directed by the jingoism that got him elected. He’s going to call another election very soon and is trying to keep the US as the focus over the complete and utter failure of the LPC for the past decade.
The entire speech was reminiscent of Trudeau era posturing about being an idealist, only he’s now shrinking the coalition from the UN to Europe, and trade from the US to China. Also said he’s not a globalist 8 months after saying he was, same with China going from our “largest security threat” to a “strategic partnership”. Talks about respecting sovereignty in Greenland and Venezuela, while also quietly affirming the “One China” policy.
Stirring the pot and saying whatever to get elected while they flood subs and social media with praise for Carney. People really don’t look past the headline or comment section anymore.
Hot_Restaurant_7408 on
So many bots in this chat holy hell
Minimum-Style-1411 on
Absolutely amazing statesmanship. Such a contrast from listening to Trump whine about Joe Biden or Poilievre about Trudeau.
RiceN_Beans on
Secgan serpent!
theothersock82 on
Even you consertqtives have to admit: Pierre Poillievre would never be able to deliver a speech like that on the world stage. He’s not right for the job.
Anotherspelunker on
This is how it sounds when a level-headed adult is in the room. Whether you agree or disagree with Carney’s stance in some policies, it is undeniable that this is the kind of rational mindset this world sorely needs right now
Ambitious_Medium_774 on
This is a watershed moment.
--prism on
Man. How did we get a guy this dialed in? No one can argue that Carney is not a generational intellect. It’s possible people don’t agree with his politics but I think it’s hard to argue that anyone would be a better PM. Impaired to trump and some of the European leaders it’s night and day.
ImNotGoogleLens on
🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
True North Strong and Free!
vayeate on
Carney going like, I made sure the rich get richer in my country! <3 This is the way
figure85 on
Trump will fall asleep watching this, then make some unhinged rant about it at 3am.
drs_ape_brains on
Where the hell has this guy been the last decade?
Serious-Damage4200 on
“if you are not in the table; you are in the menu”…that was just great!
Neutral-President on
Imagine Pierre Poilievre giving that speech.
LeGrandLucifer on
I just read the whole thing. It’s wishful thinking. He’s not wrong about the reality of the world. He’s wrong about the solutions he proposes. He gave the example of the grocer and his sign. You know what happens to the grocer who doesn’t put his sign in the window? He gets a visit from some men who take him away and nobody ever sees him again. And now he’s saying Canada is just the first country to “take the sign out of the window.” Well Canada is going to get a visit from some men and disappear.
Unarmed resistance is impotent in the face of armed oppression.
Oxjrnine on
So If Canada ever gets annexed, Carney for president…..
captsmokeywork on
I don’t agree with the liberals on everything, but Thank Ozzy he’s our prime minister.
figure85 on
At what point of the Titanic are the Republicans in right now?
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Its pretty clear Carney is trying to wrangle the Europeans into forming a third rail against BRICS and the US.
The remaining west will get eaten alive if we split but still have economic and burgeoning military power together.
Mucho respect! Calling it like it is!
That is a fantastic speech.
“The hope that compliance will buy safety; well it wont”
A bit ironic
I hope Mr Carney has the best security detail and that every precaution is taken to ensure his protection as he flies around the world making deals and giving speeches that are 100% bound to piss off the US, because I don’t trust them to just let him become the leader of the middle powers of the world, which I totally think he is capable of.
It was really impressive!
Carney called it like it is. Time for us to stop pretending and letting the customer dictate the terms. They (US) have the population. We have what they need. And collectively have if we all work together. Time to collectively make a stand against the playground bully.
One of the, if not THE best speech about the current state of affairs.
Saying like it is, without insulting anyone.
Well said. Interesting times they said… I would rather have boring and prosperous.
That speech will live on for a very long time. We have the right PM. Maybe the most qualified person to steer the ship through the storm ahead.
Every Canadian should watch it in its entirety.
Thank God Canada voted for this guy! Imagine PP during this time.
He told (diplomaticly) t.rump and the excited states of america to Fuck Off, we don’t need or care about you.
My Man with his elbows up.
Proud to have Carney represent Canada.
> So, Canada. Canada has what the world wants. We are an energy superpower. We hold vast reserves of critical minerals. We have the most educated population in the world. Our pension funds are amongst the world’s largest and most sophisticated investors. In other words, we have capital talent. We also have a government with immense fiscal capacity to act decisively. And we have the values to which many others aspire.
> Canada is a pluralistic society that works. Our public square is loud, diverse and free. Canadians remain committed to sustainability. We are a stable and reliable partner in a world that is anything but, a partner that builds and values relationships for the long term.
> And we have something else: we have a recognition of what’s happening and determination to act accordingly. We understand that this rupture calls for more than adaptation. It calls for honesty about the world as it is.
…
> The powerful have their power. But we have something too: the capacity to stop pretending, to name realities, to build our strength at home, and to act together.
> That is Canada’s path. We choose it openly and confidently, and it is a path wide open to any country willing to take it with us.
Great speech and all. Too bad it’s over most American’s heads….
“Hegemony”…..”asymmetrically”….
Fuhgeddaboudit!
I’m conservative, but I gave the liberals a shot in the recent election. Glad I did, and so far I’m impressed how Mr. Carney is navigating the mess created by the gangster down south.
And that speech was a great listen.
First leader to tell it like it is.
Real leadership. Mark Carney a true world leader and the best Prime Minister Canada could have in these difficult times.
Amazing speech.
I doubt the Americans will be able to craft a narrative to poke holes in this speech so they’ll just suppress its coverage.
Centre-right Canadian guy here, traditionally conservative. We have the right guy running this country. I can’t tell you the last time I was this proud of our Prime Minister’s words and actions.
Some Conservatives I know are saying he made a clown of himself and the country on the world stage.
We live in different realities.
He’s decent but needs to be pushed much more progressive. Much better with environment, labour, housing, taxing the morbidly rich etc.
I listened to it several times and cried every time. We’re lucky to have him.
It is a balm to listen to someone who can actually form a proper sentence.
It is going to get messy, real messy, but I have some hope it can be weathered.
Refreshing to see someone who is not a career politician leading the country.
Thank you to all those fellow Canadians who value education, self-improvement and who uphold progressive values. Collectively we made this happen – we voted for a leader that only happens once in a lifetime, that is unlike all the toxic insanity happening south of us and within the zealot maple extremist versions of that right here at home.
We chose a respectable, super competent leader who is not only working to improve Canada in this new direction we are forced to head in, he is widely praised on the world stage. Today is a proud day for Canada.
Word on the street is he wrote his own speech.
a really concise and wake-up speech
That was a great speech. It had all the important points:
1. We have to live in reality, not just hope that Trump will die soon and then things will go back to normal. They won’t. This isn’t a transition, but a rupture.
2. Hegrmons like the USA can use threats, raw military and economic power, and transactionalism successfully for a short period, but it has diminishing returns over time.
3. We middle powers are vulnerable right now because we trusted the Americans and the rules and institutions they lead after WW2, which were mutually beneficial. But the USA has now decided to use that trust and economic integration as a weapon. Thus, middle powers must combine together to make new rules, agreements, and institutions that reduce our vulnerability to hostile hegemonic actors.
Although he didn’t say it outright, Carney also pretty strongly implied that the middle powers will have to play the US and China off of one another until we can be less reliant on them. The USA and China won’t have a Cold War-style clash of ideologies, but rather they’ll be competing for international markets, and we can benefit from that if we play our cards right.
“This bargain no longer works”
Unless you’re China, apparently. Make no mistake, the pivot is entirely directed by the jingoism that got him elected. He’s going to call another election very soon and is trying to keep the US as the focus over the complete and utter failure of the LPC for the past decade.
The entire speech was reminiscent of Trudeau era posturing about being an idealist, only he’s now shrinking the coalition from the UN to Europe, and trade from the US to China. Also said he’s not a globalist 8 months after saying he was, same with China going from our “largest security threat” to a “strategic partnership”. Talks about respecting sovereignty in Greenland and Venezuela, while also quietly affirming the “One China” policy.
Stirring the pot and saying whatever to get elected while they flood subs and social media with praise for Carney. People really don’t look past the headline or comment section anymore.
So many bots in this chat holy hell
Absolutely amazing statesmanship. Such a contrast from listening to Trump whine about Joe Biden or Poilievre about Trudeau.
Secgan serpent!
Even you consertqtives have to admit: Pierre Poillievre would never be able to deliver a speech like that on the world stage. He’s not right for the job.
This is how it sounds when a level-headed adult is in the room. Whether you agree or disagree with Carney’s stance in some policies, it is undeniable that this is the kind of rational mindset this world sorely needs right now
This is a watershed moment.
Man. How did we get a guy this dialed in? No one can argue that Carney is not a generational intellect. It’s possible people don’t agree with his politics but I think it’s hard to argue that anyone would be a better PM. Impaired to trump and some of the European leaders it’s night and day.
🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
True North Strong and Free!
Carney going like, I made sure the rich get richer in my country! <3 This is the way
Trump will fall asleep watching this, then make some unhinged rant about it at 3am.
Where the hell has this guy been the last decade?
“if you are not in the table; you are in the menu”…that was just great!
Imagine Pierre Poilievre giving that speech.
I just read the whole thing. It’s wishful thinking. He’s not wrong about the reality of the world. He’s wrong about the solutions he proposes. He gave the example of the grocer and his sign. You know what happens to the grocer who doesn’t put his sign in the window? He gets a visit from some men who take him away and nobody ever sees him again. And now he’s saying Canada is just the first country to “take the sign out of the window.” Well Canada is going to get a visit from some men and disappear.
Unarmed resistance is impotent in the face of armed oppression.
So If Canada ever gets annexed, Carney for president…..
I don’t agree with the liberals on everything, but Thank Ozzy he’s our prime minister.
At what point of the Titanic are the Republicans in right now?