Nearly a third of kids can’t use books when starting school – and try to swipe them like phones

https://news.sky.com/story/nearly-a-third-of-kids-cant-use-books-when-starting-school-and-try-to-swipe-them-like-phones-13497398

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30 Comments

  1. More worrying is that one in four is not toilet trained. Pathetic, the parents need a visit from social services.

  2. It may sound alarmist, but we have absolutely seen a decline in life skills in the past decade and the consequences could be dire.

    While there seems to be a change brewing, it will come too late for an alarming number of children.

  3. SbisasCostlyTurnover on

    Bit confused by this. The article doesn’t actually appear to expand on the headlines claim that these kids can’t ‘use a book’.

    Like..what does that mean? I’d imagine most pre-school kids can’t read, that’s normal right? The swiping and taping thing? Anecdotal.

    As for the find that 1/4 kids occasionally has a toilet based accident in reception class…is that also not to be somewhat expected?

    I’m a parent. I know I’m far from perfect, but this article just stinks of slightly alarmist thinking. We could and should be doing better by our children, absolutely…but this article ain’t it.

  4. My sister works in a school in Leeds. I always thought she was joking when she was sharing stories like this

  5. >In an annual survey of primary school staff by early years charity Kindred Squared, teachers estimated 26% of the children in their reception class this year were having frequent toilet mishaps, rising to more than one in three (36%) in the North East.

    I wonder how they’re defining this – accidents are still pretty common at that age, aren’t they? Particularly for when they first start, and it’s a new environment with new people.

    It’s an interesting topic to me, because toilet-training is something that we’re *really* struggling with my son at the moment. He’s 4, and will be starting school in September, and we’re of course determined to make sure he’s ready by then; but it feels like every time we take a step forwards, something happens and we reset again.

    He’s pretty good with his weeing, but we’re still having far too many poo accidents for my liking – and it’s not helped by the fact that every time we ask him about it, his response is “I didn’t know it was coming”, so it’s difficult to get him to understand that when he feels he needs to go, he actually has to. And I’m riding a very fine line between needing to tell him off because he’s not paying attention to his body, and not scaring him into regressing (because he *really* doesn’t like being told off, and bursts into tears at even a hint of criticism).

    >Staff also report around 28% of children started school unable to eat and drink independently.

    I’d say that this is actually more of a concern?

  6. PomPomBumblebee on

    This was a thing back in late 2008-2009 when I tried to start teaching, hearing horror stories about children starting nursery and primary schools not knowing how to use a book.

    The toilet training thing was brought up when I went on my work experience at a primary school back in 2000 when they said some years they get lots of parents expecting them to teach toilet training at nursery.

    It’s not exactly new news but it seems to be more common now

  7. Awkward-Dingo4879 on

    My girlfriend works at a school and she had to cover in nursery and reception and there was a young girl who had picked up an American accent because of how much YouTube content she watches. Madness.

  8. Lol shut the fuck up with this sensationalised bullshit, what does ‘can’t use a book’ even mean? We’re taking three/four year old children yeah? Drivel!

  9. xander-mcqueen1986 on

    Not shocked.

    Parents are lazy as these days. Especially the younger generation instead of reading to kids and helping them the just get left with a phone or tablet and watch brainrot on TikTok or YouTube.

    Parents should be fined, heavily I might add if a child cannot do the basics, while some kids will have special needs or other issues that prevent them from doing it the rest can and need an example made of.

  10. I tried to pinch to zoom on a photograph a few days ago. An actual photograph in a frame. Go easy on the kids.

  11. AttackOwlFibre on

    People won’t admit that kids aren’t being raised right because everyone won’t admit that they are the failing adult doing it.

    The vast majority of people have no parenting skills and the remaining decent parents simply do not have the time to nurture a child into a functional adult. It’s a very small percentage that have the time, money and focus for their children.

    That’s due to us having to work like dogs to pay bills. Grandparents used to pick up “the slack” but now we’re at a stage where even Grandparents have to work and can’t help out.

    Now we have a whole generation who can’t function without being told what to do or how to behave via tiktok or every emotional outburst or lack of understanding is given an adhd label.

  12. Southern_Bowl_8265 on

    I refuse to believe that children are “trying to swipe books like phones” or whatever sensationalised alarmist bullshit the news is pedaling today. It’s not remotely believable.

  13. PolarLocalCallingSvc on

    To be fair, one of my young nephews appears to swipe the book, but I think that’s his inability to turn pages yet, even in the cardboard books!

  14. I thought it was just over a quarter? Hold on – swipe – yes just over a quarter…

  15. We are fucked.

    I grew up in a single parent household with an immigrant father. I learned to do most everything by myself, for myself.

    When I went to university, kids from good families wouldn’t even know how to turn the oven on in halls.

    One of my halls mates put a raw chicken in the oven, came back 20 mins later, pulled it out still raw, and asked if it was cooked.

    She hadn’t turned it on in the first place.

    That was 12 years ago… you’re telling me people are becoming even MORE useless?

  16. DragonflyOk2876 on

    That is really shocking.

    My six month old understands that she can turn over a page to see a new picture. And mine is not some genius by the way, that is really typical for her age.

  17. Ive noticed more and more parents getting aggressively defensive over screen time not being that bad even though the evidence that it is keeps stacking up

  18. Annabelle_Sugarsweet on

    Glad to see the government intent back sure start, now called family hubs where I live. These are seriously needed as some people are just very poor parents and information from these hubs is essential. I went to some of the classes there and the shock from some of the mothers when told they should be brushing their kids teeth and reading to them. To be fair they all started doing it, but genuinely didn’t seem to know?!

  19. terryjuicelawson on

    Never seen a kid try to swipe a book I must say, this seems a little exagerrated. What even is “use a book”, how do they define “toilet trained”. They may well need help with their meals in some form or another, these are 4 year olds. If people think they are all smug and their kids are perfect, think back to if they had the odd toilet mishap at that age, or if they couldn’t open a food packet, or they couldn’t read a book a bit advanced for them.

  20. Katharinemaddison on

    I definitely don’t do that with the paper codex books I grew up reading. I also never press on a word to try and get the dictionary. No. Never happens.

  21. ITT: The male childless redditors out in full force with their parenting expertise.

    Wouldn’t be Reddit if we didn’t have our daily dose of, “parents bad, me would be perfect” threads 🙄

  22. Not really a surprise although this is a nothing article to pander to the boomer attatude of kids allways on thier phones. And before people start saying kid shouldn’t be on phones/tablets because there just watching rubbish you might be watching rubbish but there are some really good educational apps out there for preschool children just because you doomscrolling every day doesn’t mean everyone else is

  23. I first looked for the enter button in school on a sheet of paper in 1982 or so.

    (I had a zx81 personal computer)

  24. Least-Entrepreneur23 on

    I think the desire to actually be a parent almost seems non-existent these days. It’s like some parents just have kids as a box tick exercise, rather than actually wanting to raise a child