“The memorial will honour the six million Jewish people murdered in the Holocaust and preserve their story for generations to come ”
Don’t most people call the just Jewish part the Shoah, most people I know use holocaust to include Jews, Romani, gay etc
ArgusButterfly on
I hope explicit parallels are drawn, about the dangers of dehumanising and persecuting a whole section of society.
We talk about “Never again” and learning from the past. But sometimes it looks like it’s just words.
Owlstorm on
What a farce for the UK to make a monument about a past genocide in and by another country.
If it was one of our own genocides or even one of the current ones that we could still do something about it would make more sense.
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Perfect-Check-2921 on
I give it one week before some angry pink haired weirdo spray paints “Palestine” on it.
Pen_dragons_pizza on
This is good and strange it took this long.
What I cannot help but think though is that pro Palestine mobs will ruin it or protest it etc
It feels like just letting some people know you are Jewish these days is enough to makr you an enemy and somehow shoulder the responsibility of what Isreal has been doing.
Edit: someone please explain why this is downvoted ? Racism and violence against Jewish people is obviously on the rise. How can anyone say that a Jewish memorial for those that died in ww2 is not a good thing?
Other European countries have them, for example Vienna has a large one, and yes it is vandalised.
Nuclear_Wasteman on
Why does a country that had no part in the Holocaust need a memorial that only honours and memorialises a single group persecuted by the Nazi regime? Why should that museum be placed next to the UK’s Parliament?
ModdingmySkyrim on
I wonder if even 10 years ago it would have been remotely contentious to build a holocaust memorial.
Antisemitism really is growing.
Plus-Literature-7221 on
It is so weird to build a memorial for something we didnt do next to parliament 80 years after it happened.
We also already have other memorials and museum/education centres within walking distance.
AltruisticChampion77 on
Maybe in another 50 years we can have a memorial to the Palestinian genocide
Careful-Builder-9931 on
There‘s a lot of whataboutery going on here.
Yes, more should be made of the other people who were murdered in death camps. There must be a way to include them somehow.
However, the lazy argument that ‘Jews make everything about them’ and ‘this is Israeli propaganda’ is EXACTLY why we need to have memorials like this. They were the single biggest victimised population, and the current action of one despicable government doesn’t negate Jews’ importance in this country.
There are (rightly) memorials to other atrocities and miscarriages of justice in this country. I walk past a Windrush memorial when on my way to work every week; there is a monument in my town to the 20 locals who died in the World Wars. It sounds to me like Jewish people, especially those who fled to our country *for safety,* should be commemorated in this way. Especially as there have been a massive rise in hate crimes against Jewish people in the UK, the majority of whom are not pro Israel.
Chase_Norton on
I wonder if we’ll have a monument for all the dead kids bombed by Israel ?
smegabass on
Clearly, some holocausts are more holocaust than other holocausts.
Never forget, except, forget if not jewish.
Revolutionary-Mode75 on
Right next to it should be built a memoral for all the Palestinians have been killed in Gaza.
bars_and_plates on
The number of commenters here which claim that the Holocaust has nothing to do with Britain are frankly alarming – if they’re real it really shows a lack of historical knowledge.
It wasn’t just “close by” – if the Nazis had made further headway into Britain then it absolutely would have been happening here and we would have had hundreds of thousands of Brits in the statistics.
Crafty-Reality-9425 on
Are we going to build memorials for all holocaust/genocides that have happened around the world these past few centuries? Seems a bit unfair to acknowledge just the one? Millions of people have been murdered by lunatic dictators and unelected governments, due to their skin colour, religion, caste, tribe, sexuality, gender, nationality. Many of these events we are unaware of (myself included) and many have also been forgotten. All victims of political violence deserve to be recognised and remembered. Somehow, I can’t see this happening though.
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“The memorial will honour the six million Jewish people murdered in the Holocaust and preserve their story for generations to come ”
Don’t most people call the just Jewish part the Shoah, most people I know use holocaust to include Jews, Romani, gay etc
I hope explicit parallels are drawn, about the dangers of dehumanising and persecuting a whole section of society.
We talk about “Never again” and learning from the past. But sometimes it looks like it’s just words.
What a farce for the UK to make a monument about a past genocide in and by another country.
If it was one of our own genocides or even one of the current ones that we could still do something about it would make more sense.
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I give it one week before some angry pink haired weirdo spray paints “Palestine” on it.
This is good and strange it took this long.
What I cannot help but think though is that pro Palestine mobs will ruin it or protest it etc
It feels like just letting some people know you are Jewish these days is enough to makr you an enemy and somehow shoulder the responsibility of what Isreal has been doing.
Edit: someone please explain why this is downvoted ? Racism and violence against Jewish people is obviously on the rise. How can anyone say that a Jewish memorial for those that died in ww2 is not a good thing?
Other European countries have them, for example Vienna has a large one, and yes it is vandalised.
Why does a country that had no part in the Holocaust need a memorial that only honours and memorialises a single group persecuted by the Nazi regime? Why should that museum be placed next to the UK’s Parliament?
I wonder if even 10 years ago it would have been remotely contentious to build a holocaust memorial.
Antisemitism really is growing.
It is so weird to build a memorial for something we didnt do next to parliament 80 years after it happened.
We also already have other memorials and museum/education centres within walking distance.
Maybe in another 50 years we can have a memorial to the Palestinian genocide
There‘s a lot of whataboutery going on here.
Yes, more should be made of the other people who were murdered in death camps. There must be a way to include them somehow.
However, the lazy argument that ‘Jews make everything about them’ and ‘this is Israeli propaganda’ is EXACTLY why we need to have memorials like this. They were the single biggest victimised population, and the current action of one despicable government doesn’t negate Jews’ importance in this country.
There are (rightly) memorials to other atrocities and miscarriages of justice in this country. I walk past a Windrush memorial when on my way to work every week; there is a monument in my town to the 20 locals who died in the World Wars. It sounds to me like Jewish people, especially those who fled to our country *for safety,* should be commemorated in this way. Especially as there have been a massive rise in hate crimes against Jewish people in the UK, the majority of whom are not pro Israel.
I wonder if we’ll have a monument for all the dead kids bombed by Israel ?
Clearly, some holocausts are more holocaust than other holocausts.
Never forget, except, forget if not jewish.
Right next to it should be built a memoral for all the Palestinians have been killed in Gaza.
The number of commenters here which claim that the Holocaust has nothing to do with Britain are frankly alarming – if they’re real it really shows a lack of historical knowledge.
It wasn’t just “close by” – if the Nazis had made further headway into Britain then it absolutely would have been happening here and we would have had hundreds of thousands of Brits in the statistics.
Are we going to build memorials for all holocaust/genocides that have happened around the world these past few centuries? Seems a bit unfair to acknowledge just the one? Millions of people have been murdered by lunatic dictators and unelected governments, due to their skin colour, religion, caste, tribe, sexuality, gender, nationality. Many of these events we are unaware of (myself included) and many have also been forgotten. All victims of political violence deserve to be recognised and remembered. Somehow, I can’t see this happening though.