Data centers should be required to provide their own electricity or pay for the grid upgrades themselves.
Straight_Document_89 on
Good! Maybe idiots like Austin Rhodes (local radio host in Columbia county in Georgia) will stop spouting how data centers are good.
BluesFan43 on
If they provide their own power, full pollution controls.
For grid power, absolutely no impact on any other rates. You want it, you pay all of the costs.
fatalflu on
As Augusta/Grovetown houses some of the Military intelligence is planning to build a huge data center It wont help here.
worker_bee_drone on
I saw a commercial in between Law and Order reruns on Peacock streaming. I didn’t catch the sponsor. But it was a lobbying commercial to sway viewers into supporting energy use for AI. The message was “We are leading in chips. We are leading in SW. But China is leading in power generation. Please help us win there also!”
Like asking the turkeys to help sharpen the axes before Thanksgiving.
cocoagiant on
This is a misleading article.
Yes, a Democratic lawmaker submitted a bill. It has no chance of passing.
Georgia’s Power Service Commission until recently had a fully Republican membership.
They still have a majority and are completely on board with data centers and have approved building many of them.
thesk8rguitarist on
For anyone reading this:
Columbia County commissioners have conducted deals with Harlan Crow to build the nation’s largest data center that will use as much electricity as NYC.
This was done without consent or consideration for the community and was just passed unanimously to a booing and shaming crowd. I have personally stood in front of these commissioners twice to condemn this decision. Very few are supportive.
We need a class action lawsuit.
vickism61 on
What boom? They aren’t even profitable!
FJ-creek-7381 on
Not to mention abate any environmental impacts like water contamination from anti corrosives used in their water use.
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Cosack on
On the headline only…
Data centers aren’t inherently bad for communities, badly planned and built data centers are. They’re basically factories for digital stuff, and “let’s ban factories” is a pretty unnuanced move. There are ways to have your cake and eat it, but you have to regulate the developers.
Civil engineering needs to happen considering the community perspective, not just the company and utilities’ side. Power planning, water and waste management, and sound proofing. There’s almost certainly already some planning on all of these, but it’s obviously been insufficient.
This is a new type of factory, and regulation will need to catch up. But we’re no strangers to large infrastructure projects. It’s possible, and deciding to outright ban these projects is a major missed opportunity.
Practical-Aside890 on
Same place that invested over 500 billion (yes billion) into ai. This isn’t about ai bad get rid of it. And I also believe they accepted a few billion from Amazon to push ai there too. Although I might be mixing facts on the Amazon investment.
It’s strictly about them not wanting American ai. They have no issues with ai as seen by the money invested into it. They have no issue with data centers. Just that it’s American lol
jmbond on
Because on top of plant vogtle overrun fees the people would be outside the cooling towers with pitchforks if forced to subsidize more idiocy on their monthly bill
jigawatson on
It’s cause they lost all that Hyundai factory money
Plastic-Coyote-6017 on
This means that Georgia won’t get to use any Internet services enabled by data centers, right?
Big_Wave9732 on
Data centers are a necessary item in our modern society. And have been for decades, people just weren’t as aware of them. Even without AI, you interact with data centers every day.
The solution here is governmental policies that foster sustainable datacenter growth. That means tighter regulations about power consumption and grid tie ins. That means a more active role for regulators in managing power grid demand. That means more oversight on water use (closed loop systems are deceptively named and still have hella huge water usage).
The solution is not for states to merely say no more.
teeny_tina on
>It comes at a time when Georgia’s public service commission – the agency that oversees utility company Georgia Power – just last month approved a plan to provide 10 additional gigawatts of energy in the coming years. **It was the largest amount of electricity sought for a multi-year plan in the commission’s history, was driven by datacenters and will mostly be supplied by fossil fuels.**
Title of the article is extremely misleading. None of these states that have imposed a moratorium on data canter construction give 2 shits about people, ecology, economy, safety, health, utility access, jobs. Nothing.
The moratoriums are temporary til they figure out the most efficient and expeditious way to fuck over as many people as possible while lining their own pockets. They may as well just nuke the world and put us out of our misery, it’s a lot faster than this slow-drip destruction they’re feeding us.
HardSpaghetti on
Just have to make it so they have a net zero impact on water and electricity. (the only reason they’re profitable is because they can abuse already strained infrastructure)
einstyle on
Calling it a “boom” makes it sound good. Call it a “bubble.”
No_Issue2334 on
Headline is technically correct but extremely misleading.
This is obviously going to fail. Democrats are in the minority.
Dangerous_Pop_5360 on
They will just build them in liberal states and make them shoulder the energy cost.
rumski on
Or as Oklahoma sees it, “Ohhh lowball us and bring it here!” 🙄
Bioactive-1 on
There are a lot of people from both sides of the fence here that want them to put a tighter leash on GA Power and the data centers but this is just a proposal and the committee still has a Republican majority.
winterbird on
No one wants data centers near them, but so many love to use AI to ask if dragonflies fart. Daily doses of malicious stupidity that should affect someone else.
TawnyTeaTowel on
Backward thinking in the Bible Belt… what a surprise…
protipnumerouno on
What boom? All I see in search being cannibalized, and the only reason it’s better is because they’ve enshitified search.
BasementDwellerDave on
Good, data centers are such a fuckin waste of resources
Sprinkle_Puff on
Good Georgia
Holiday-Medicine4168 on
Read Snow Crash. We’re headed to corporatized citadel states.
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Data centers should be required to provide their own electricity or pay for the grid upgrades themselves.
Good! Maybe idiots like Austin Rhodes (local radio host in Columbia county in Georgia) will stop spouting how data centers are good.
If they provide their own power, full pollution controls.
For grid power, absolutely no impact on any other rates. You want it, you pay all of the costs.
As Augusta/Grovetown houses some of the Military intelligence is planning to build a huge data center It wont help here.
I saw a commercial in between Law and Order reruns on Peacock streaming. I didn’t catch the sponsor. But it was a lobbying commercial to sway viewers into supporting energy use for AI. The message was “We are leading in chips. We are leading in SW. But China is leading in power generation. Please help us win there also!”
Like asking the turkeys to help sharpen the axes before Thanksgiving.
This is a misleading article.
Yes, a Democratic lawmaker submitted a bill. It has no chance of passing.
Georgia’s Power Service Commission until recently had a fully Republican membership.
They still have a majority and are completely on board with data centers and have approved building many of them.
For anyone reading this:
Columbia County commissioners have conducted deals with Harlan Crow to build the nation’s largest data center that will use as much electricity as NYC.
This was done without consent or consideration for the community and was just passed unanimously to a booing and shaming crowd. I have personally stood in front of these commissioners twice to condemn this decision. Very few are supportive.
We need a class action lawsuit.
What boom? They aren’t even profitable!
Not to mention abate any environmental impacts like water contamination from anti corrosives used in their water use.
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On the headline only…
Data centers aren’t inherently bad for communities, badly planned and built data centers are. They’re basically factories for digital stuff, and “let’s ban factories” is a pretty unnuanced move. There are ways to have your cake and eat it, but you have to regulate the developers.
Civil engineering needs to happen considering the community perspective, not just the company and utilities’ side. Power planning, water and waste management, and sound proofing. There’s almost certainly already some planning on all of these, but it’s obviously been insufficient.
This is a new type of factory, and regulation will need to catch up. But we’re no strangers to large infrastructure projects. It’s possible, and deciding to outright ban these projects is a major missed opportunity.
Same place that invested over 500 billion (yes billion) into ai. This isn’t about ai bad get rid of it. And I also believe they accepted a few billion from Amazon to push ai there too. Although I might be mixing facts on the Amazon investment.
It’s strictly about them not wanting American ai. They have no issues with ai as seen by the money invested into it. They have no issue with data centers. Just that it’s American lol
Because on top of plant vogtle overrun fees the people would be outside the cooling towers with pitchforks if forced to subsidize more idiocy on their monthly bill
It’s cause they lost all that Hyundai factory money
This means that Georgia won’t get to use any Internet services enabled by data centers, right?
Data centers are a necessary item in our modern society. And have been for decades, people just weren’t as aware of them. Even without AI, you interact with data centers every day.
The solution here is governmental policies that foster sustainable datacenter growth. That means tighter regulations about power consumption and grid tie ins. That means a more active role for regulators in managing power grid demand. That means more oversight on water use (closed loop systems are deceptively named and still have hella huge water usage).
The solution is not for states to merely say no more.
>It comes at a time when Georgia’s public service commission – the agency that oversees utility company Georgia Power – just last month approved a plan to provide 10 additional gigawatts of energy in the coming years. **It was the largest amount of electricity sought for a multi-year plan in the commission’s history, was driven by datacenters and will mostly be supplied by fossil fuels.**
Title of the article is extremely misleading. None of these states that have imposed a moratorium on data canter construction give 2 shits about people, ecology, economy, safety, health, utility access, jobs. Nothing.
The moratoriums are temporary til they figure out the most efficient and expeditious way to fuck over as many people as possible while lining their own pockets. They may as well just nuke the world and put us out of our misery, it’s a lot faster than this slow-drip destruction they’re feeding us.
Just have to make it so they have a net zero impact on water and electricity. (the only reason they’re profitable is because they can abuse already strained infrastructure)
Calling it a “boom” makes it sound good. Call it a “bubble.”
Headline is technically correct but extremely misleading.
This is obviously going to fail. Democrats are in the minority.
They will just build them in liberal states and make them shoulder the energy cost.
Or as Oklahoma sees it, “Ohhh lowball us and bring it here!” 🙄
There are a lot of people from both sides of the fence here that want them to put a tighter leash on GA Power and the data centers but this is just a proposal and the committee still has a Republican majority.
No one wants data centers near them, but so many love to use AI to ask if dragonflies fart. Daily doses of malicious stupidity that should affect someone else.
Backward thinking in the Bible Belt… what a surprise…
What boom? All I see in search being cannibalized, and the only reason it’s better is because they’ve enshitified search.
Good, data centers are such a fuckin waste of resources
Good Georgia
Read Snow Crash. We’re headed to corporatized citadel states.