So many yanks acting so morally superior in that thread.
Almost as if they didn’t elect trump twice, almost as if they haven’t been sending people to camps, almost like they haven’t had a branch of the government committing terrorist acts and gunning people down.
Turning more and more into a failed state day by day.
killianm97 on
Plenty of comments attempting to analyse the situation but lots of top comments also just clearly trying to push the narrative that Ireland has a particularly dire history of anti-semitism.
The fact that our constitution included a specific clause to defend Jewish people at a time when anti-Semitism was the norm and skyrocketing across Europe (around WW2) is something we should be proud of.
Eamon De Valera was also close with Chain Herzog who was an Irish-Israeli who served as the 6th president of Israel and the initial view in Ireland tended to support the creation of Israel as a nation-building thing, seeing it as similar to Ireland creating an independent nation a few decades earlier.
Thankfully, we now tend to see the full picture and understand the horrors of the Nakba and huge displacement and colonisation that took place (and is taking place).
But it’s insane to me how unchallenged this biased narrative of ‘Ireland was anti-semitic’ is – while being pushed largely due to our opposition to genocide. Obligatory to highlight that anti-genocide is not anti-zionism which is not anti-semitism.
Mysterious_Gear_268 on
There’s a filthy piece in the Spectator that came out two days ago. I don’t want to repost and give them hits but the author is pretty unhinged in her thinking. I couldn’t believe what I was reading. You’d have to wonder what this means for our country if people start believing this bullshit.
_k0kane_ on
I literally that this thread ready to post last night and then didn’t.
Very happy to see this being noticed by others. Thanks op.
I had commented last night in that thread calling out the ops account activity. You can see my post history to catch it quickly.
Its very clearly designed to rage bait.
Clever little trick to piggy back the current events in usa and latch Ireland on to that sentiment.
They drop threads like that and never reply or engage and even repost months later to try and make it stick
Its the early phases of a campaign. And people need to take it seriously sooner rather than later.
Ireland is #1 on that other countries shitlist.
This particular post is using the Wedge tactic.
I learned about Agitprop because of this lol
hanukwt464 on
Ireland still has a public statue of a Nazi collaborator. The Irish government sent condolences to the Nazi government after Hitler suicide etc etc. there’s lots of examples of Irish Nazi anti semitic collaboration historically
fruedianflip on
We don’t realise how much we’re the little brother of America
killianm97 on
I posted a clarification comment on that thread and am just waiting for it to be mass-downvoted by angry Israelis and Zionist Americans who feel guilty or attacked for supporting genocide:
So many misleading comments in the thread with 1,000+ upvotes. While we were all sleeping so its too late to influence
Temporary_Hall6382 on
By the time this Israeli propaganda campaign is complete, people will think Ireland committed the holocaust.
Away_team42 on
Still having a statue up of a Nazi collaborator is wild.
tishimself1107 on
Yeah this craic is sad and becauae we are a weaker EU country the Isreal machine can hammer us with impunity as a lesson to others.
Cold_Football_9425 on
So many terribly misinformed comments in that thread. There’s not enough time to correct every single one of them and, even if you tried, the commenter would undoubtedly be too obtuse to absorb the correction.
Ironically, Ireland historically is one of the *least* “anti-Semitic” countries in Europe. For the past two years pro-Israel types have been obsessively combing through Irish history and the best they can do is the Limerick Boycott and De Valera’s “condolences”.
And all of this slander is because Ireland made the mildest criticism of Israel’s conduct in Gaza…
caisdara on
There’s no logic to that argument. The fact that the constitution once contained protections for Judaism does not mean we’re incapable of antisemitism.
It’s akin to saying that France’s actions in Haiti weren’t racist because of liberté, égalité and fraternité.
LeoDGrey on
Obviously because of Ireland’s stance on Palestine. Being anti Zionist is not antisemitic, but Zionists are spinning it that way to try and loop in other Jews and enrage them/indoctrine them
Economy_Fig2450 on
I saw plenty if “From The River To The Sea” signs at protests over the past few years, it doesn’t get much more blatantly antisemitic than that.
jaywastaken on
Wonder which country that poster is paid by…
Accurate_Welder_3662 on
It’s the Zionists propaganda machine working over time accusing everyone & anything of being anti semitic! They are trying to draw the attention away from Israeli war crimes & genocide in Palestine 🇵🇸
IrishHistory26 on
We still declined to take in Jewish refugees because the government said having Jews in Ireland would cause “anti-Semitism”
ArcherVisible5866 on
It’s pretty obvious what constitutes a pro-Semite is to allow the ethno state of Israel to bomb children. So don’t really care what they say about us.
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So many yanks acting so morally superior in that thread.
Almost as if they didn’t elect trump twice, almost as if they haven’t been sending people to camps, almost like they haven’t had a branch of the government committing terrorist acts and gunning people down.
Turning more and more into a failed state day by day.
Plenty of comments attempting to analyse the situation but lots of top comments also just clearly trying to push the narrative that Ireland has a particularly dire history of anti-semitism.
The fact that our constitution included a specific clause to defend Jewish people at a time when anti-Semitism was the norm and skyrocketing across Europe (around WW2) is something we should be proud of.
Eamon De Valera was also close with Chain Herzog who was an Irish-Israeli who served as the 6th president of Israel and the initial view in Ireland tended to support the creation of Israel as a nation-building thing, seeing it as similar to Ireland creating an independent nation a few decades earlier.
Thankfully, we now tend to see the full picture and understand the horrors of the Nakba and huge displacement and colonisation that took place (and is taking place).
But it’s insane to me how unchallenged this biased narrative of ‘Ireland was anti-semitic’ is – while being pushed largely due to our opposition to genocide. Obligatory to highlight that anti-genocide is not anti-zionism which is not anti-semitism.
There’s a filthy piece in the Spectator that came out two days ago. I don’t want to repost and give them hits but the author is pretty unhinged in her thinking. I couldn’t believe what I was reading. You’d have to wonder what this means for our country if people start believing this bullshit.
I literally that this thread ready to post last night and then didn’t.
Very happy to see this being noticed by others. Thanks op.
I had commented last night in that thread calling out the ops account activity. You can see my post history to catch it quickly.
Its very clearly designed to rage bait.
Clever little trick to piggy back the current events in usa and latch Ireland on to that sentiment.
They drop threads like that and never reply or engage and even repost months later to try and make it stick
Its the early phases of a campaign. And people need to take it seriously sooner rather than later.
Ireland is #1 on that other countries shitlist.
This particular post is using the Wedge tactic.
I learned about Agitprop because of this lol
Ireland still has a public statue of a Nazi collaborator. The Irish government sent condolences to the Nazi government after Hitler suicide etc etc. there’s lots of examples of Irish Nazi anti semitic collaboration historically
We don’t realise how much we’re the little brother of America
I posted a clarification comment on that thread and am just waiting for it to be mass-downvoted by angry Israelis and Zionist Americans who feel guilty or attacked for supporting genocide:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/s/N7uVO44WfU](https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/s/N7uVO44WfU)
So many misleading comments in the thread with 1,000+ upvotes. While we were all sleeping so its too late to influence
By the time this Israeli propaganda campaign is complete, people will think Ireland committed the holocaust.
Still having a statue up of a Nazi collaborator is wild.
Yeah this craic is sad and becauae we are a weaker EU country the Isreal machine can hammer us with impunity as a lesson to others.
So many terribly misinformed comments in that thread. There’s not enough time to correct every single one of them and, even if you tried, the commenter would undoubtedly be too obtuse to absorb the correction.
Ironically, Ireland historically is one of the *least* “anti-Semitic” countries in Europe. For the past two years pro-Israel types have been obsessively combing through Irish history and the best they can do is the Limerick Boycott and De Valera’s “condolences”.
And all of this slander is because Ireland made the mildest criticism of Israel’s conduct in Gaza…
There’s no logic to that argument. The fact that the constitution once contained protections for Judaism does not mean we’re incapable of antisemitism.
It’s akin to saying that France’s actions in Haiti weren’t racist because of liberté, égalité and fraternité.
Obviously because of Ireland’s stance on Palestine. Being anti Zionist is not antisemitic, but Zionists are spinning it that way to try and loop in other Jews and enrage them/indoctrine them
I saw plenty if “From The River To The Sea” signs at protests over the past few years, it doesn’t get much more blatantly antisemitic than that.
Wonder which country that poster is paid by…
It’s the Zionists propaganda machine working over time accusing everyone & anything of being anti semitic! They are trying to draw the attention away from Israeli war crimes & genocide in Palestine 🇵🇸
We still declined to take in Jewish refugees because the government said having Jews in Ireland would cause “anti-Semitism”
It’s pretty obvious what constitutes a pro-Semite is to allow the ethno state of Israel to bomb children. So don’t really care what they say about us.