FAFO.
The ICC is used as a weapon of war against Israel (and by extension, USA). If the ICC judges serve as (willing) tools of war, they should expect consequences from the people they hurt.
ICC needed *a lot* of “creative” legal interpretation to overstep their jurisdiction boundaries, and the concept of state consent which is a cornerstone of international law. The legal process itself is the punishment, and applying it selectively only to Israel reeks sky high.
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1). I think this article fundamentally misunderstands how US-ICC sanctions work and why they are effective. It’s not because the judges rely on US companies – it’s because the sanctions apply to domestic and foreign companies. Building an EU tech platform doesn’t change the balance unless it’s willing to endure US sanctions (and if all the firms supporting that platform are as well). Short of a fundamental change to the economic power balance, this is very unlikely.
2). People in general don’t have (imo) a good understanding of what international law is. It’s not inherently just or unjust. If Russia and its aligned states started their own court system and indicted Zelensky, I think most Europeans would agree with sanctioning that court (maybe I’m wrong).
From the US POV, neither the US nor Israel agreed to recognize the legitimacy of the ICC. The ICC plans to arrest the head of state of a US ally.
They certainly can do that, but the US doesn’t have an obligation to just let it happen. (It would have such an obligation if it was an ICC member, but that’s why the US, China, Russia, India, etc. didn’t join.)
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1). I think this article fundamentally misunderstands how US-ICC sanctions work and why they are effective. It’s not because the judges rely on US companies – it’s because the sanctions apply to domestic and foreign companies. Building an EU tech platform doesn’t change the balance unless it’s willing to endure US sanctions (and if all the firms supporting that platform are as well). Short of a fundamental change to the economic power balance, this is very unlikely.
2). People in general don’t have (imo) a good understanding of what international law is. It’s not inherently just or unjust. If Russia and its aligned states started their own court system and indicted Zelensky, I think most Europeans would agree with sanctioning that court (maybe I’m wrong).
From the US POV, neither the US nor Israel agreed to recognize the legitimacy of the ICC. The ICC plans to arrest the head of state of a US ally.
They certainly can do that, but the US doesn’t have an obligation to just let it happen. (It would have such an obligation if it was an ICC member, but that’s why the US, China, Russia, India, etc. didn’t join.)
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FAFO.
The ICC is used as a weapon of war against Israel (and by extension, USA). If the ICC judges serve as (willing) tools of war, they should expect consequences from the people they hurt.
ICC needed *a lot* of “creative” legal interpretation to overstep their jurisdiction boundaries, and the concept of state consent which is a cornerstone of international law. The legal process itself is the punishment, and applying it selectively only to Israel reeks sky high.
1). I think this article fundamentally misunderstands how US-ICC sanctions work and why they are effective. It’s not because the judges rely on US companies – it’s because the sanctions apply to domestic and foreign companies. Building an EU tech platform doesn’t change the balance unless it’s willing to endure US sanctions (and if all the firms supporting that platform are as well). Short of a fundamental change to the economic power balance, this is very unlikely.
2). People in general don’t have (imo) a good understanding of what international law is. It’s not inherently just or unjust. If Russia and its aligned states started their own court system and indicted Zelensky, I think most Europeans would agree with sanctioning that court (maybe I’m wrong).
From the US POV, neither the US nor Israel agreed to recognize the legitimacy of the ICC. The ICC plans to arrest the head of state of a US ally.
They certainly can do that, but the US doesn’t have an obligation to just let it happen. (It would have such an obligation if it was an ICC member, but that’s why the US, China, Russia, India, etc. didn’t join.)
1). I think this article fundamentally misunderstands how US-ICC sanctions work and why they are effective. It’s not because the judges rely on US companies – it’s because the sanctions apply to domestic and foreign companies. Building an EU tech platform doesn’t change the balance unless it’s willing to endure US sanctions (and if all the firms supporting that platform are as well). Short of a fundamental change to the economic power balance, this is very unlikely.
2). People in general don’t have (imo) a good understanding of what international law is. It’s not inherently just or unjust. If Russia and its aligned states started their own court system and indicted Zelensky, I think most Europeans would agree with sanctioning that court (maybe I’m wrong).
From the US POV, neither the US nor Israel agreed to recognize the legitimacy of the ICC. The ICC plans to arrest the head of state of a US ally.
They certainly can do that, but the US doesn’t have an obligation to just let it happen. (It would have such an obligation if it was an ICC member, but that’s why the US, China, Russia, India, etc. didn’t join.)