This is mostly just businesses not taking the effort to disable this screen. It’s super easy. So many shops I visit have a frustrated person serving me having to wait for the screen to load while muttering “so sorry” and then tapping no tip before asking for payment.
No-Negotiation2922 on
Few things are as annoying as ordering a coffee and being asked to tip
PoppedCork on
€500k a year in “accidental” tips because people are tapping through card machines without realising is fairly telling. Tipping here was always meant to be optional not these sneaky little screens appearing for every coffee. Feels like a slow slide towards American-style tipping without anyone actually agreeing to it. If a tip’s expected, be upfront. If people are paying it by mistake, that’s not tipping, it’s sharp practice.
I_make_carrot_noises on
There is nothing “accidental” about this. Take your stupid Americanisms and fuck right off.
Pension_Alternative on
‘Accidental’ doing a lot of work in that report
dano1066 on
Some of these machines ask for a tip when no human was even involved!
Andalska on
These should be banned
rockafellerskank95 on
So 1 cent per person in the country. It’s a disgrace Joe
Jon_J_ on
It’s the part where they ask for a tip before they’ve even made the coffee that bugs me
jnippler on
These machines unfairly target the kind people and those with wealth insecurity
ehwhatacunt on
I tapped 3 times on one in Lithuania, trying to pay for my beer. They gave me the beer for “free” (which still meant they got a tip, since beer is cheap there).
mizezslo on
I wish the EU would do something about this. It’s lazy product teams from American payment platforms forcing their tipping culture on all of us. It’s a nasty little game that causes service pros and customers to be in this bizarre position of ever-potential conflict while business owners laugh their way to the bank.
kendragon on
It’s baffling to me why this isn’t an opt in feature by law. It’s seems to me to be theft if these machines are set to charge a tip by default and you don’t see it until after you tap your phone or card.
2012NYCnyc on
Go to Insomnia coffee. They have a separate payment device for tips that looks like the pay point
Stiferiferoo on
I went for a meal with my Daughter this weekend. Waited 10 minutes for a table in a restaurant that was 1/4 full. Finally seated, ordered and got served. Food was poor, service nearly non existent. Several times having to get up and go looking for staff if we needed anything.
Go to pay, lowest option for tip was 20% or nothing. Yeah, guess its nothing. Tipping has been become a joke here.
francescoli on
Nothing accidental about it.
SharkeyGeorge on
We probably need an amendment to consumer laws to deal with this specifically. Need to get in front of it and regulate how companies, coffee places and restaurants etc, are permitted to request and receive tips and customer’s rights not to be duped or coerced into tipping
Ev17_64mer on
Still better than what they have in the UK with 10 % discretionary service charge on every bill, which is not mandatory but you need to ask the waiters to remove it.
geo_gan on
This is just American tipping cancer culture infesting this country thanks to American centred social media. Where employers presume the customers will pay their employees wages.
I’ve seen it myself where you go to pay in restaurant and they hand you a tip card terminal then turn around or face away while standing in front of you and you are forced to choose levels of tip or NONE and then have to hand it back to them while they look at how much you gave them to your face. Fuck that. I never go back to any restaurant which does this, actively boycott them to teach a lesson.
crying-big-babies on
It’s not even that, I’ve seen these other machines placed right beside the card machine where I’ve accidentally hovered my phone over it and given a tip
whellbhoi on
Call me stingy but I almost never never tip this is not America – we shouldn’t need to substitute salary with tips like America does
Of course the Chinese / chipper delivery driver will always get a 1 or 2 euro they are usually cash in hand jobs
But ordering a coffee ane asked for a tip you will be told to fuck right off
Jumpy_Emu1111 on
it’s such a brazen system, buying a takeaway drink off someone who barely looks at you and being presented with a screen requesting a tip, the actual neck
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This is mostly just businesses not taking the effort to disable this screen. It’s super easy. So many shops I visit have a frustrated person serving me having to wait for the screen to load while muttering “so sorry” and then tapping no tip before asking for payment.
Few things are as annoying as ordering a coffee and being asked to tip
€500k a year in “accidental” tips because people are tapping through card machines without realising is fairly telling. Tipping here was always meant to be optional not these sneaky little screens appearing for every coffee. Feels like a slow slide towards American-style tipping without anyone actually agreeing to it. If a tip’s expected, be upfront. If people are paying it by mistake, that’s not tipping, it’s sharp practice.
There is nothing “accidental” about this. Take your stupid Americanisms and fuck right off.
‘Accidental’ doing a lot of work in that report
Some of these machines ask for a tip when no human was even involved!
These should be banned
So 1 cent per person in the country. It’s a disgrace Joe
It’s the part where they ask for a tip before they’ve even made the coffee that bugs me
These machines unfairly target the kind people and those with wealth insecurity
I tapped 3 times on one in Lithuania, trying to pay for my beer. They gave me the beer for “free” (which still meant they got a tip, since beer is cheap there).
I wish the EU would do something about this. It’s lazy product teams from American payment platforms forcing their tipping culture on all of us. It’s a nasty little game that causes service pros and customers to be in this bizarre position of ever-potential conflict while business owners laugh their way to the bank.
It’s baffling to me why this isn’t an opt in feature by law. It’s seems to me to be theft if these machines are set to charge a tip by default and you don’t see it until after you tap your phone or card.
Go to Insomnia coffee. They have a separate payment device for tips that looks like the pay point
I went for a meal with my Daughter this weekend. Waited 10 minutes for a table in a restaurant that was 1/4 full. Finally seated, ordered and got served. Food was poor, service nearly non existent. Several times having to get up and go looking for staff if we needed anything.
Go to pay, lowest option for tip was 20% or nothing. Yeah, guess its nothing. Tipping has been become a joke here.
Nothing accidental about it.
We probably need an amendment to consumer laws to deal with this specifically. Need to get in front of it and regulate how companies, coffee places and restaurants etc, are permitted to request and receive tips and customer’s rights not to be duped or coerced into tipping
Still better than what they have in the UK with 10 % discretionary service charge on every bill, which is not mandatory but you need to ask the waiters to remove it.
This is just American tipping cancer culture infesting this country thanks to American centred social media. Where employers presume the customers will pay their employees wages.
I’ve seen it myself where you go to pay in restaurant and they hand you a tip card terminal then turn around or face away while standing in front of you and you are forced to choose levels of tip or NONE and then have to hand it back to them while they look at how much you gave them to your face. Fuck that. I never go back to any restaurant which does this, actively boycott them to teach a lesson.
It’s not even that, I’ve seen these other machines placed right beside the card machine where I’ve accidentally hovered my phone over it and given a tip
Call me stingy but I almost never never tip this is not America – we shouldn’t need to substitute salary with tips like America does
Of course the Chinese / chipper delivery driver will always get a 1 or 2 euro they are usually cash in hand jobs
But ordering a coffee ane asked for a tip you will be told to fuck right off
it’s such a brazen system, buying a takeaway drink off someone who barely looks at you and being presented with a screen requesting a tip, the actual neck